SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #25

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That's how I see him. It's even possible that Paul was in fact his preferred child, and Buster was not as much on his mind. Who knows? We do know that family annihilation is often the result of both a desire for vengeance (everything bad that happens is THEIR fault and the personality is rage-filled and vengeful) and for what the killer thinks is "compassionate" (life is going to be awful for them, now that we are going to be disgraced/poor/embarrassed/humiliated etc, so I'll just spare them the misery).

This second type of family annihilator often plans to kill themselves too. In fact, suicidality can be the thought that sets the cycle in motion, perhaps daily or many times a day. The wish to annihilate oneself, though, rapidly cycles through "and take them with me," which obviously has to be done first. Of course, there are the ones who drive the whole family off a cliff as a solution to that. I think Chris Watts considered it, but quickly realized he couldn't do it (just like Alex, if in fact he ever felt suicidal).

Here's an article on the homicide/suicide pattern:


And here's a more general article about familicide:


Grim stuff, but makes up something like 75% of mass murderers (when 3 or more are killed).

That's how I see him. It's even possible that Paul was in fact his preferred child, and Buster was not as much on his mind. Who knows? We do know that family annihilation is often the result of both a desire for vengeance (everything bad that happens is THEIR fault and the personality is rage-filled and vengeful) and for what the killer thinks is "compassionate" (life is going to be awful for them, now that we are going to be disgraced/poor/embarrassed/humiliated etc, so I'll just spare them the misery).

This second type of family annihilator often plans to kill themselves too. In fact, suicidality can be the thought that sets the cycle in motion, perhaps daily or many times a day. The wish to annihilate oneself, though, rapidly cycles through "and take them with me," which obviously has to be done first. Of course, there are the ones who drive the whole family off a cliff as a solution to that. I think Chris Watts considered it, but quickly realized he couldn't do it (just like Alex, if in fact he ever felt suicidal).

Here's an article on the homicide/suicide pattern:


And here's a more general article about familicide:


Grim stuff, but makes up something like 75% of mass murderers (when 3 or more are killed).
Interesting reading. Depressing though. There’s been several cases that I’ve read about on the news that I haven’t looked for on WS. Like a couple of men who killed their wives and children and then themselves. Or the doctor out in CA who drove his wife and children off the cliff and they miraculously survived. The wife said he intended to kill them all. He said it was an accident. I believe it’s still under investigation. I don’t read them all because it’s such a waste of life. I wonder if it’s depression or just selfishness.
 
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What is interesting is this just wasn’t very well planned or executed.

The guns have to still be close by.

Law enforcement must really have dropped the ball there?

AM took huge risks and got away with half them.
 
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You are right, I didn't even consider them in my statement. I should have been more thoughtful.
Oh no....I wasn't saying you were mean...I was saying I am being mean for thinking that AM should have been dead. Implying he should be dead was mean on my part. :(
 
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Judge says now 18 days of direct & circumstantial evidence.

Motion for directed verdict denied.
 
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Two of my favorite people in this case are the Judge and lead prosecutor CW
 
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https://twitter.com/AveryGWilks

Judge Newman denies the state's motion for a directed verdict. The state has rested its case.

Harpootlian says the defense is ready to "rock and roll, your honor." Jury coming back in.
 
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A description of what a directed verdict is:


Under the circumstances, this seems like really poor timing for that.
 
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Oh we know some need the barrels of the weapons poking up out of the weeds.
And never seem to consider how highly motivated killers are to conceal, tamper, dispose of evidence to prevent just such an occurrence.
 
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Is the defense pushing for a verdict now? Prior to presenting a defense? Prior to closing arguments? Rather instead of --

Are they thinking the jurors will rule fast so they can enjoy their three-day weekend? Rude.

Am I misunderstanding?

jmo

Since the state has the burden to prove the case, once the state is ready to rest, this is the time the defense requests the court render a decision that the state failed to prove its case and give the jurors sufficient evidence to deliver a verdict. If the judge agrees, the case is over, forever.
 
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If indeed Buster was expected to follow in his father's footsteps and become an attorney like his father, he should have waited until he was out of law school to cheat. Which makes me wonder if he cheated to get tossed out of school so he wouldn't have to become what his father expected. jmo
Like his father set any kind of good example of any type of Professional. No Morals. No Ethics. BSICALLY, AN EMBARRASSMENT.
 
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This next witness is a coroner…but not medically trained

(sounds like the same in Latah County, ID…Moscow murders)
 
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I don't think this will go well between Dick H and his own witness. JMO.
 
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