SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #27

[justtrish]

So after thinking about it today, I am thinking Alex was busted (again) with pills. I would imagine if you've been to rehab a few times and did out patient or other detoxing (according to Buster) then Maggie discovering his pills very well could have been a bigger problem. His bad deeds at work were coming to light, they had the boat case hanging over their heads, and now Maggie has found his pills yet again. I think this time was even more significant because he can't be going to rehab in the middle of the boat case and how would that look for his family? I am wondering if Maggie had told him in the past if you do this again, I am gone or I am done. Maybe she didn't specifically have discussions of divorce, but what if she made it clear after the last pills/rehab stint she wasn't going to tolerate it any more. Our family members can be enablers and sometimes they do get to the point they put their foot down and require more. Maybe THIS time was that for Maggie?

 

[LaborDayRN]

Hope he's not going to fake cry again. (if he does testify)

Oh, he will.........

 

[Dexxie8]

Why are you hung up? Chris Watts, by all accounts a loving father, drove his two daughters to an oil field with their dead mother at their feet, suffocated them and stuffed them in oil tanks.

That’s the one case I couldn’t read/watch. I have 2 young girls and can’t stomach that type of violence. I guess I’ll just never understand psychopaths, Alex included

 

[Derph]

Why are you hung up? Chris Watts, by all accounts a loving father, drove his two daughters to an oil field with their dead mother at their feet, suffocated them and stuffed them in oil tanks.

Looking at that 1st responder video of the cop that was 1st on the scene, Alex sure reminded me of watts that way he was pacing around, and on his cell phone, folding his arms and blabbering away about nothing. Funny, both wedding rings in both cases were miraculously found in other places except you know, where they should have been. On their wives' fingers!! There's a lot of watts in murdaugh!

 

[LaborDayRN]

Why are you hung up? Chris Watts, by all accounts a loving father, drove his two daughters to an oil field with their dead mother at their feet, suffocated them and stuffed them in oil tanks.

Yep. IMO he qualifies as a family annihilator (monster). I think Buster is very lucky he wasn't at home.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Agree, the same for our house. The farm next to us has 80 acres and hunters at some times. We can hear gunfire.

I live near a county park that is near a gun range. I can hear gunfire at every point around a five-mile lake.

 

[Gardenista]

This Crafter is ‘Hooked’ on the Murdaugh Murder Trial

The case is being watched all across the nation. But only one woman was inspired to get out her crochet needle.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Gardenista]

Has anybody else noticed that crime reporters who are usually firmly on the side of the prosecution are buying into the Murdaugh BS?

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

This Crafter is ‘Hooked’ on the Murdaugh Murder Trial

The case is being watched all across the nation. But only one woman was inspired to get out her crochet needle.

www.thedailybeast.com

Lol, I bet she could sell some Bubbas- love that she included the chicken

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I'm very much looking forward to Poot getting demolished on all the TV shows and YouTube channels tonight for his little, snide, gun pointing move complete with the comments that he was thinking about shooting the Prosecution. Talk about being completely clueless. With all the mass shootings in the last couple of weeks it's in EXTREMELY BAD TASTE!

The Judge needed to say something in my opinion! Didn't appreciate everyone laughing either but I wasn't in the court. Hopefully it was more of a nervous WTH laugh.

You might find it interesting that I tried to email both Judge Newman and the Clerk of the Court, and then others in the court -- all the emails bounced back saying they were blocked.

A couple times recently, Judge CN has referred to getting emails from people with concerns.

Between JG's re-Tweet and P00T taking aim at the prosecution, I bet the Court has been inundated by public outrage.

MOO.

 

[gremlin444]

After the BM testimony today I believe that he knows the truth of what happened that night. I also think he was told this on the long ride home alone with AM from Florida. BM probably knows where the $$$$ is too. Clearly he's not worried about his personal security because he knows who the killer is. I am sad that he had no emotion about losing his mother and his brother. All jmo.

I think Buster knows in his heart that his dad killed his mother and brother. But I also think Buster knows that Alex is going to be in jail for a very very long time for the financial crimes. So he can afford to appear supportive of his father at this juncture. I don't think that Buster feels likes he needs a guilty verdict or justice for his mom and brother. I think that for Buster, having Alex in jail, period, is sufficient. And that allows Buster to not alienate the rest of his family while still being able to be mostly free of Alex and his influence. You can see that him being seen to be supportive of Alex didn't alienate his aunt, so supporting Alex doesn't cause him to lose anything.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Alex Murdaugh's son Buster takes witness stand in double-murder trial

If Buster Murdaugh believes his father killed his mother and brother, he didn’t show it when he testified Feb. 21 before a Colleton County jury. Instead, Alex Murdaugh’s surviving son

www.postandcourier.com

WALTERBORO — If Buster Murdaugh believes his father killed his mother and brother, he didn’t show it when he testified Feb. 21 before a Colleton County jury.

Instead, Alex Murdaugh’s surviving son took the witness stand and offered the defense a boost.

Over the course of two hours, Buster provided explanations for some of his father’s behavior in the hours and days after Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were shot to death. His answers helped diffuse some of the theories and suspicions prosecutors floated about Murdaugh over the double-murder trial’s first four weeks.

For example, prosecutors have alleged it was strange Murdaugh left the family’s hunting estate through its main driveway on the night of the slayings, rather than using another driveway by the dog kennels where Maggie and Paul were killed. Buster testified that wasn’t unusual: His family typically used the main driveway.

Prosecutors have also implied Murdaugh parked in an unusual place during a late-night visit to his parents’ house on the evening of the slayings: behind the house, instead of the main carport. They have hinted Murdaugh did so to hide evidence, including the still-unrecovered murder weapons, by the property’s treeline. Buster, however, testified visitors commonly parked there, especially at night, in order to use the home’s back door.

So it went for question after question as defense attorney Jim Griffin methodically walked Buster through many of the case’s loose ends and unanswered questions.

I am sorry but I got the idea we weren't always getting the truth. I sometimes noticed his blink rate increase, there are no tire marks in the Almeda grass in the photos, Alex didn't always carry his iPhone, some answers were complete contradictions to testimony of stronger witnesses, blood is thicker than water...

 

[Luna20]

Has anybody else noticed that crime reporters who are usually firmly on the side of the prosecution are buying into the Murdaugh BS?

They have been brainwashed due to the century of Murdaughs in action. It’s really shocking how afraid so many people are of AM in the community. I’m sure there are some that are still scared and concerned about retaliation for testifying. He’s in jail, charged with murder and a slew of crimes yet for some that hasn’t removed the element of fear. They ruled and they will continue to try to be the big dogs.

I fully expect AM to make jail friends in case he needs anything.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I understand that most people think AM is guilty and I pretty much agree, however, I’m still hung up on his seemingly love for his family. I do think he loved all of them and I think he was very dedicated as a father, so obviously murdering them in the way that he did (gruesome) goes against this thought. I don’t know, I’ve never had a massive drug problem or have been in financial ruin so it’s probably hard for me to understand the psyche behind such horrific actions. It’s perplexing to me. Side note: Harpootlian is an *advertiser censored*

There is a problem judging criminals by the same standards you apply to people who have a conscience and empathy for others. One thing we already know about AM is that he's a criminal, involving himself in insurance fraud, embezzlement, theft, and who knows what all. And all the while he played the big man in the community, the loving husband and father, the successful attorney. He had a lot of masks he wore in public. In my view, his wife and son are dead because they had become liabilities to him. He was done with them.

We could see in the Chris Watts case that a family annihilator type often is so wrapped up in his own delusions about his life that he doesn't realize how people will see through his efforts to cover up the murders.

 

[Seattle1]

You might find it interesting that I tried to email both Judge Newman and the Clerk of the Court, and then others in the court -- all the emails bounced back saying they were blocked.

A couple times recently, Judge CN has referred to getting emails from people with concerns.

Between JG's re-Tweet and P00T taking aim at the prosecution, I bet the Court has been inundated by public outrage.

MOO.

FYI, both the clerk's and Judge Newman's fax numbers appear to be working.

 

[Cindizzi]

In addition to DH brandishing a gun, pointing it at the Prosecution and making a joke, here’s something else that should not have been allowed in Court today:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628232986385694721

 

[10ofRods]

They couldn't find an real expert for $350 an hour? (Of course he's 4 experts rolled up in one, so there's that. I guess he was a bargain?)

This is my best laugh of the day. Exactly!

Acoustical engineer. Check.

Mechanical/physics/ballistics engineer. Check!

Forensic examiner of pellets found in tree stumps with no provenance. Check!

Estimator of human height/limb ratios. Check!

Estimator of distance that objects are thrown out of cars, Check! (did anyone doubt that the phone was thrown either front, back, sideways or straight down, out of the car? He clarified nothing).

Of the above, he was better at 2 items. Or maybe 1 item. I think he weighed in on more than those questions, but, well, the defense is entitled to a defense and this is always what happens. And he got at least $350 an hour! Maybe more.

IMO.

 

[rahod1]

Yep. IMO he qualifies as a family annihilator (monster). I think Buster is very lucky he wasn't at home.

If Buster was there, none of this would have happened. The dynamic with BM and AM was different at this point in time. PM's *goose was cooked* facing prison time he couldn't possibly cope with and MM was in a depressed state with the entire situation. ERGO, AM could justify in his mind *making them go away*. This was certainly premeditated...with the assumption AM could get away with this. I'm aware 90% of those here disagree. At this point it becomes moot, since AM is guilty either way. Just my 2 cents.

 

[10ofRods]

So after thinking about it today, I am thinking Alex was busted (again) with pills. I would imagine if you've been to rehab a few times and did out patient or other detoxing (according to Buster) then Maggie discovering his pills very well could have been a bigger problem. His bad deeds at work were coming to light, they had the boat case hanging over their heads, and now Maggie has found his pills yet again. I think this time was even more significant because he can't be going to rehab in the middle of the boat case and how would that look for his family? I am wondering if Maggie had told him in the past if you do this again, I am gone or I am done. Maybe she didn't specifically have discussions of divorce, but what if she made it clear after the last pills/rehab stint she wasn't going to tolerate it any more. Our family members can be enablers and sometimes they do get to the point they put their foot down and require more. Maybe THIS time was that for Maggie?

People don't even have to say it so bluntly, but I bet they had had that conversation in one form or another. And now, she was living at Evista, IMO. He knew what that meant.

I also think AM knew that MM was a smart cookie and that she knew lawyers and lawyers' wives. She knew to protect her financial interests and she knew who the good divorce attorneys were. All of them would recommend a forensic accountant. But I think he knew that she knew something was WAY wrong with the financial situation. If she had once been an enabler, she was gathering her internal forces to stop that.

I think that in relationships like this (which frankly constitute abuse on the part of the scary partner who might do almost anything imaginable in the course of either a divorce or a threat of more rehab), the scarier partner is usually more prepared to act. Maggie was trying to feel and plan her way out of the situation. She also wanted to protect Paul, because he was her son. She was walking a very precarious path. She must have felt that AM controlled nearly every avenue she had to safety and separation from him. It's so sad.

IMO.

 

[Seattle1]

I am sorry but I got the idea we weren't always getting the truth. I sometimes noticed his blink rate increase, there are no tire marks in the Almeda grass in the photos, some answers were complete contradictions to testimony of stronger witnesses, blood is thicker than water...

Regardless of how I feel about AM, I'm sorry dad and his defense put BM in this position -- the son and brother of the victims. Personally, I found his testimony to be well-rehearsed and lacking of emotion -- especially compared to witnesses Chris Wilson and Ronnie Crosby (lawyers).

ETA: BM referenced his mom was trying to get Dupixent shipped to him in Rock Hill from the pharmacy.

Dupilumab, sold under the brand name Dupixent, is a monoclonal antibody blocking interleukin 4 and interleukin 13, used for allergic diseases such as eczema, asthma and nasal polyps which result in chronic sinusitis. It is also used for the treatment of eosinophilic esophagitis and prurigo nodularis. Wikipedia