SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #33

[worm]

Well, this is disturbing. "Juries and jury selection: Photography of jury selection is against the rules. Juries, once chosen, cannot be shot directly but may be in the background when panning or when cameras are focused on an attorney, witness or exhibit." Cameras in Court

So, does this mean that the jury can be legally photographed on the Moselle property?

When I covered court the rule was no jury period. That was background, them from behind, the side, etc. If I were the press there I wouldn’t even take pics of the space that a juror was in before.

 

[Gardenista]

Why wouldnt marital unhappiness have been brought to light by the prosecution already, tho? Why wait til last minute when jurors are wiped out? I would assume an affair, potential divorce, etc., would be one of the first things they’d target.

Maybe they feel the JMM testimony opened the relationship door further than it had been opened before? They tried to bring it in via Marion, but the affair she knew about happened too long ago (15 yrs?) and the judge said no. He definitely would have let it in if it had been closer in time to the murders.

 

[passionflower]

Wouldn’t she have contacted WC already if it’s legit?

Maybe she did, bombshell tomorrow???

 

[bamachica]

Found this local SC news report regarding the police chief loan. The guy admits it here but it was for his parents…..this report is from last year

Yemassee police chief addresses Murdaugh loan allegations

YEMASSEE, S.C. (WSAV) — Yemassee’s police chief talked to News 3 about an online report he received a loan from Alex Murdaugh weeks after Murdaugh’s wife and son were killed. Gregory Al…

www.wsav.com

 

[Pruddennce]

The only point that stood out for me was that the truck that Paul drove to Moselle was parked at the house. There was testimony that Paul always drove to the kennels. If his truck was at the house, how did he get to the kennels? Golf cart?

Why wasn't the golf cart at the kennels if Paul and Maggie used it to get to the kennels?

It seems like Alex, Maggie and Paul used the golf cart to drive to the kennels that night, but didn't Alex claim that he didn't know how they got to the kennels?

yes, AM said he didnt know how they got to the kennels. yeah right. he arrives in the golf cart and doesnt know how they got there?

 

[Megnut]

yes, AM said he didnt know how they got to the kennels. yeah right. he arrives in the golf cart and doesnt know how they got there?

I think he meant, "I forgot to have a story for that. "

Jmo

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

Not defending or refuting this, but putting this out there... many women take off their very pricy rings and rarely wear them, except for special occasions, and some have said she had gotten a manicure recently so possibly had taken it off for that.

if I have mail or my iPad with me, I will put them under the front seat to avoid being seen, tempting someone to break into my car while in the store. Under the front seat seems odd for a wedding ring, not sure what it means if anything.

Why wouldnt marital unhappiness have been brought to light by the prosecution already, tho? Why wait til last minute when jurors are wiped out? I would assume an affair, potential divorce, etc., would be one of the first things they’d target.

Maybe if brought up on rebuttal to refute defense testimony of a great marriage defense has no opportunity to explain it away. Up to this point the defense character witnesses have observed the whole trial, know what they needed to say.

 

[Sleuth2010]

I don't know anyone whose ring has ended up under the front seat of their vehicle, but perhaps it is indeed a testimony to just how chaotic MM's life had become. Poor woman.

I don't know anyone who has a manicure and doesn't put their ring back on, to admire their manicure and hands, before leaving.

Someone somehow leaving their (expensive?) ring under the car seat denotes, to me, a woman who is quite distracted, maybe even unhappy.

IMO.

And this was after SLED & LE released the victim's vehicle, supposedly having double-checked it? Left the wedding ring under the seat (which was found by the housekeeper, who cleaned it out)

Plus a piece of the young man's skull/brain left on scene, being overlooked? And the house/residence/property wasn't on immediate lock-down & was thoroughly cleaned the next day for the gathering? huh IMO. JMO. no coincidences please.

 

[Gardenista]

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[clearskies1]

I'm listening to the blue raincoat cross exam of JMM. Seems CW thinks that in Oct 2021 (at JMM's house) LE asked Buster about the blue rain coat and showed it to Buster and JMM -- but JMM says he does not remember anything about that. I wonder why the State brought this up. I'm guessing there is no audio of this interview, but I'm not sure.

 

[clearskies1]

The only point that stood out for me was that the truck that Paul drove to Moselle was parked at the house. There was testimony that Paul always drove to the kennels. If his truck was at the house, how did he get to the kennels? Golf cart?

Why wasn't the golf cart at the kennels if Paul and Maggie used it to get to the kennels?

It seems like Alex, Maggie and Paul used the golf cart to drive to the kennels that night, but didn't Alex claim that he didn't know how they got to the kennels?

Agree -- seems like they all drove down together in the golf cart. JMO.

 

[skyedaze]

Exactly! None of this changes the fact that Alex was there at the time of the murders and nobody else was.

Right..either way PM and MM are still dead and the only other person who knew they would be there at that time is the same person who requested their presence that evening and the same person who literally escorted them to their death scene. The only one of them to leave alive is the person who lied about being there.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Do we know what day the jury is going to Moselle?

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

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Except that Paul’s second shot was where the gun made contact with his head.

 

[10ofRods]

It seems like a daytime field trip won’t produce any reliable opinions though. They won’t “see” night lights or hear gunshots. They will only see what they see and if a juror is a city person, it’s possible that any remote location like that could influence them into thinking “oh gosh, it’s creepy here, yes, you’d never hear a thing at the house” but unless they fire a gun at the kennels and the jurors are at the house… it’s all going to be up to their imagination. I mean, the shootings took place close together. No one needs to see beyond the photos and 3D renderings the facts of that. Driving between the house and kennels, again, it’s a guessing game for them if no one is going to shoot a gun for them to possibly hear, right?

Yes - there's that, too. Yet another reason why this exercise is futile. Each human juror will "see" something different on this trip - and none of it will be closely related to the crime scene. But it's a good way to give jurors a convenient fiction on which to hang their impressions of overall guilty or innocence.

I totally agree that some will think, "Boy, it's creepy out here, anything could have happened." That's the reason the defense wants to do it. PLUS, it's a field trip for the group (who is not supposed to be discussing the case, but now gets a group bonding field trip).

If one juror is convinced of Alec's innocence, the jury will have a harder time ignoring that person after this little picnic-like fieldtrip. If two jurors are already convinced, perhaps they will use human body language and facial expressions to indicate with their eyes what kinds of things they are looking at/feeling. Who knows? It's not regular evidence at all.

And since there are no big arguments about the dimensions of the various spaces, to me it's spurious to take time to allow it (unless of course, it's a kind of reward for the jury...)

IMO.

 

[10ofRods]

Except that Paul’s second shot was where the gun made contact with his head.

I"m sorry - but who testified (aside from today's witness) that the gun made contact with his head? I need to catch up.

 

[NottaYutz]

For grins and giggles.

 

[10ofRods]

Wouldn’t she have contacted WC already if it’s legit?

What's WC? And are you saying that victims of sex trafficking are likely to report?

 

[10ofRods]

Bbm. No, I didn’t mean to imply that. I just don’t trust some media outlets /people not to do anything to make a buck. I’m cynical that way.

And therefore, possibly, an appeal or mistrial (I don't think this judge will go for mistrial, but there could be an appeal on almost anything).

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[fred&edna]

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Priceless!

'Gettin' my lucky daubbers ready for tomorrow, and I can hardly wait!