SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #34

[makayla]

Are they coming back from this break?

 

[Edvis]

I do believe the judge has lost patience with the defense team

We all have and drinks are flowing and chicken raging

 

[Derph]

Add this to the playlist!!!!

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[Love Never Fails]

Finally over. I wish jury would collectively say they don’t want a field trip. He’s guilty your Honor.

Lol

 

[rescuemom]

I don't "have much confidence" in the talkers on Law and Crime

Usually on a lot of the talkers it seems like they have some talking points or bullet points to try to make something out of something, sometimes they do not have the names, relationships, location right.

 

[Gut_feeling]

Again, Alex is standing for the jury. What do you guys think caused his sudden change of otherwise very consistant behavior?

 

[Love Never Fails]

How is saying he was shot in the back of the head suggesting suicide?

They have suggested suicide.

 

[Pruddennce]

I do believe the judge has lost patience with the defense team

I agree...having to repeat any surrebuttal to defense.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

99.9% is by anyones standards, beyond a reasonable doubt. This is the problem, too many people do not understand “reasonable doubt” feeling kind of like we need to go to professional jurors….

Agree, it does not mean every question has to have an answer, it is not a CSI episode

 

[sunshineray]

Did DH just, say what? to the judge when he asked if he was going to argue for defense putting on rebuttal? Like he never made a big deal out of that this morning and he doesn't know what the judge is asking him!?

 

[fred&edna]

I've probably had too much fun on @Edvis's bus this afternoon but... my favorite witness answers today were:

1) Yes sir, that's how angles work.
2) It's a cone!
3) That's a pink string tied to the top of a pine tree.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

They have suggested suite.

What? They suggested there was a contact wound.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/AveryGWilks

Wilson concludes his questioning of Kinsey. Defense attorney Jim Griffin is up for cross-examination.

Kinsey, under questioning from Griffin, says he doesn’t disagree with what Sutton - the defense expert - tried to do, just with the degree of certainty at which Sutton claimed the shooter couldn’t have been 6-foot-4.

Griffin establishes that Kinsey is being paid somewhere in the realm of $7,500-$10,000 for his consulting and testimony on this case.

Kinsey: “I’m a Baptist, so if I didn’t charge something, my friends and family would talk bad about me.” Laughter in the courtroom.

Kinsey and Griffin are going back and forth about the trajectory of the shotgun blast that killed Paul. I'm getting a head start on my story for the day.

Griffin questions how a pellet could have gone upward through Paul's shoulder, neck and head before lodging itself high up in the feed room. Kinsey doesn't seem to understand the question. To him, it's obvious that the upward trajectory of the shot took the pellet there.

The defense is suggesting Paul was shot downward, exploding his skull and sending pellets, blood, brain matter and bits of skull back toward the shooter and up high on the feed room door/walls.

Kinsey doesn't buy it. On the shotgun pellet up high: "It didn't turn around and come back out of the top of his head, I can tell you that.”

Griffin: There was no effort by investigators to find and identify the shooter’s footprints. “There’s a shooter somewhere.” Kinsey: “I agree with that.”

If you're looking for a witness to carry you through a criminal trial in Walterboro, you could do worse than finding an extremely smart, well-trained expert with a heavy southern accent and good manners.

Griffin: Our expert witness, Tim Palmbach, didn’t put the shooter inside the feed room the way y’all demonstrated, did he? Kinsey: I thought he did. We’re going to demonstrate it again. This time, Harpootlian is the victim.

Griffin and Harpootlian just demonstrated a version of the shooting in which the shooter didn't have to be inside the feed room.

Wilson: You spoke with Riemer, who did Maggie and Paul’s autopsies. And you also heard testimony from the defense’s expert, who did not. Which opinion do you like better? Kinsey: “Well, I’ll start by saying I don’t know either one of them from a can of paint.”

Kinsey testifies he doesn't want to argue with a pathologist. That's not his field of expertise. Another good quality in an expert witness: Staying in your lane.

Wilson: “The shooter is running around, and so is the victim. It’s chaotic. It’s crazy.” “There’s no way to know how the gun is being held, it’s shouldered, it’s angled.” Wilson: We can’t say how the shootings took place, exactly. Kinsey agrees.

Kinsey is done on the stand.

The state rests its rebuttal case. The jury is excused for a break.

Judge Newman says we have run out of time to take the jury to Moselle today. He is now conferring with attorneys on both sides privately now. Not sure about what.

 

[BeachSky]

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A gentleman and a scholar.
He could tell you to go pound sand
and you would say - thank you.
Lol

JMO

 

[less0305]

I watched the Netflix part 3 on Stephen Smith, and I wasn't impressed with the way Buster was being portrayed. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he has a defamation claim against Netflix and producers of show.

I bet Buster wouldn't dare get into a defamation lawsuit on that.

 

[Arkay]

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I’m several thousand hours behind everyone here, only caught up to this page, but @Cindizzi ‘s comment from Twitter struck me.

I have a cousin who is a federal detective and a brother-in-law who is a police captain. They each annually give me official cards for the car dashboard that list me as a family member. It’s legal, that’s why those cards are issued.


As this is NYC and there is never any parking, I will say that MAYBE once or twice, a cop gave me leeway instead of a parking ticket If I was double-parked for a minute.

But that’s it, that’s as far as a favor can go.


Neither of my LE relatives would ever, ever, ever even imagine giving me or any family a badge and police lights!

That’s impersonating a cop, whereas the card is clearly stating family member and some, not all, NYC cops will honor it. (But still make us move the car).


I think if I even insinuated to them, “hey, can I have lights and a badge?” they would arrest me themselves.

IMO and experience.

 

[TeaTime]

Has anyone here ever shot a shotgun? Did you use both arms? Your shoulder?

Did you shoot from the hip?

If you shot twice in rapid fire succession, was your shoulder bruised? Sore?

What about 5 rounds in rapid succession from an AR-15?

 

[arielilane]

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[Carolina Girl]

I wish I was a fly on the wall in chambers.

 

[mickey2942]

I bet Buster wouldn't dare get into a defamation lawsuit on that.

Probably not, but there didn't seem to be any actual evidence linking him to the death of SS. Or evidence of the relationship claimed.