VERDICT WATCH SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #35

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  • #781
I don't know...this is conjecture because it is just his behavior in one or two instances..I can't hang my hat on a perceived lack of concern. mOO

Well, we don't need that as proof of his guilt, since there is an overload of physical proof already, but it is consistent with his guilt.
 
  • #782
God, I hope this won’t be another OJ situation.
 
  • #783
It is common. Narcissists don't change. They have this mentality of superiority. That is why most addiction treatment centers attempt to get clients to hit rock bottom and acknowledge how their addiction affected others. I doubt AM ever got there. He probably hasn't even acknowledged it to himself. He is still an addict, the term is "Dry Drunk". Sure, they don't drink any more, but nothing else has changed.
I think that’s one of the reasons I’ve been able to understand AM … let’s just say I have experienced someone like him, minus the murders and extreme thefts, and when his family did an intervention for drug abuse, I had conversations with the counselors who described him as grandiose. Even though he eventually stopped using the drug he completely denied he was an alcoholic. I don’t think he took his treatment that seriously, and most of his family reminded me of the Murdaugh family with their utter denial of his issues. I experienced this type of personality first hand many years ago, and thankfully I put an end to it in the very early stages, however it affected my life and my children’s lives. I agree with you AM is probably still an addict, as you said “Dry Drunk”. I recognize some of AM’s expressions. He’s still an arrogant, narcissistic, self-centered person.
 
  • #784
I'm sure the jury would find it very odd if, after all the voluminous financial testimony, CW did not suitably review it. He's spending as much time as that long history deserves. It's only Alex's fault that there is so much financial misconduct to go over.
Yep because it isn't just that he stole because that isn't the point. He lied and stole to cover up the previous lie and so on. Then it caught up to him.. the stealing isn't THE point, it's that in early June of 2021 the past stealing to pay back the previous incident wasn't going to work.. he was overdrawn, he needed money, he needed to disclose his financials.. he couldn't steal from anyone else to pay back or make up for what he had done and it was coming to a head. That is the key point from the stealing.. then they can say also everyone trusted him and he lied to them that goes to his credibility on the stand, but his stealing goes right to motive. He couldn't hide, lie, or smooth talk his way out of his financials coming out which would expose his crimes and he would be disbarred and legally in big trouble also.
 
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AM stated he took 60 a day... That dosage of oxy would be pretty toxic/fatal. It would impair anyone's ability at that amount, at the very least they would be drowsy, and with many other issues, such as trouble breathing. They would not be sitting up chatting away, like AM has been seen doing. Moselle had a landing strip, pretty sure all those pills were part of drug trafficking. Also, with the amount of drinking AM did, combining the opioids with alcohol (opioids suppress your breathing), in those amounts, with the drinking.... would have been fatal. AM cannot remember anything related to the murders but he CAN remember the number of pills and the strength of the pills that he took over the years.

I was on a pills/booze binge for 2 decades and never got close to taking it like that.
 
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Buster not "Pau-pau" on the snowman. :rolleyes:
 
  • #788
I was on a pills/booze binge for 2 decades and never got close to taking it like that.
Glad you recovered
 
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The hero chicken!

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If he was doing opiates for a decade plus, he would have built up quite a tolerance. Also, opiates provide a lot of people with energy and a boost (not your stereotypical drowsiness/nodding out). If you are actively in withdrawal, anything that takes that feeling away will put a pep in your step.
Sure you can build up a tolerance, but even so, that is a pretty lethal dose... and add alcohol to the mix and it is deadly no matter how long that person has been using. I had too many ER reports come across my desk back in the day with drug overdoses and alcohol, mixing like that is deadly. At the very least he would have needed to be revived a few times if he was truly drinking and taking that amount.
 
  • #792
Sounds like it if it is just laying there, Hog just drops dead at that spot hmmm ok.
I thought the -good brother JMM- was taking care/watching over the property.
I am sure DH did not like seeing anything
-killed dead- near those kennels.

JMO
 
  • #793
I was on a pills/booze binge for 2 decades and never got close to taking it like that.

I was constantly broke from buying pills. I can't imagine the amount I would have been taking if I had access to this amount of money.

ETA: I'm sure I'd be dead though.
 
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  • #795
I wish they would investigate all this and if true take down the madam and all the men! Sex trafficking is horrible!
I think they will after this case it concluded. I would think it doesn't benefit the state to throw that in here unless they have proof Maggie knew he was doing those things. It might make it even more messy. Look at how many people say too much financial crime talk about the case already. Imagine if we had all that rolled into this also. I think holding him accountable for this was top priority because the other stuff will always be there. They can expose every crooked person Alex ever dealt with AFTER they put his butt in prison for murdering Alex and Maggie.
 
  • #796
I think Alec's drug of choice is money.

JMO
 
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The red alerts for me,
The kennel video
Choosing to lie so fast
The reaction when they revealed the existence of the video
 
  • #799
So they have a Buster Flower pot, and a girl bike outside? I can not believe her niece would not love to have her Aunt's bike. Did Maggie mean nothing to any of them, including Buster? They have no gravestonesafter all this time? Is her Sister all that loved her?
 
  • #800
It's also possible AM is an addict in more ways than one (not just opioids). He could be addicted to manipulating people, playing shell games with money, and the free for all of spending on whatever else he spent all the money on (gambling, trafficking, what not).

Some people are like that, and thrive on/get their "buzz" off of the "thrill" of it all, living a chaotic lifestyle and creating so much upset/intimidation in their day to day interpersonal life (don't ask don't tell) in an attempt to cover up their nefarious deeds and seeing what they can get away with behind the snow jobs, even towards and especially targeting their loved ones/people they are closest to.

It's actually kinda classic behavior for some people, to be addicted to "playing the game" of succeeding in life "against all odds", especially in this case, where AM "had everything" and it was never enough, and he had tapped every single resource possibly available to him to rob Peter and pay Paul. He's liked his odds all along, it seems, and never counted on his crimes catching up with him because he has always been able to "get away with murder".

JMO
 
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