SC - Raniya Wright, 5th grader dies from fight at school, Mar 2019

[Trident]

What will happen with the murderer? He/She is most likely the same general age. 10 years old. I can't even wrap my head around someone that young being able to kill. Yes, I know, it happens way too often nowadays. So sad.

I've been sitting on my hands, not wanting to say anything, but this happened to me - thing is, I would have been the perp.

Many long years ago, when I was about the same age, fifth grade, I went to the girl's room. As I was leaving, another girl from my class came in. For whatever reason, she refused to let me leave. She wanted to get me in trouble, I think. Things were quite strict back in those days, there were rules and we HAD to obey them, not like today. I wanted to get out of there, but she just wouldn't let me, stood in my way blocking me. Well, I gave her a good push. She hit the wall with a thud and slid down. She landed on the floor in a sitting position, head sorta hanging down. I honestly thought I'd killed her, I think it would have been a possibility, walls back then were made to last.

When she started to get up, finally, I ran out and back to class. She and I never spoke again and I never raised my hand in anger against another child. I could have killed her, would it have been my fault?

 

[Jim_M]

I've been sitting on my hands, not wanting to say anything, but this happened to me - thing is, I would have been the perp.

Many long years ago, when I was about the same age, fifth grade, I went to the girl's room. As I was leaving, another girl from my class came in. For whatever reason, she refused to let me leave. She wanted to get me in trouble, I think. Things were quite strict back in those days, there were rules and we HAD to obey them, not like today. I wanted to get out of there, but she just wouldn't let me, stood in my way blocking me. Well, I gave her a good push. She hit the wall with a thud and slid down. She landed on the floor in a sitting position, head sorta hanging down. I honestly thought I'd killed her, I think it would have been a possibility, walls back then were made to last.

When she started to get up, finally, I ran out and back to class. She and I never spoke again and I never raised my hand in anger against another child. I could have killed her, would it have been my fault?

Thankfully you didn't hurt her too seriously! And I can imagine the guilt you encountered!

Wow, I'm wondering if perhaps something similar happened with RW, and the outcome was death?

 

[Tbone144]

Thankfully you didn't hurt her too seriously! And I can imagine the guilt you encountered!

Wow, I'm wondering if perhaps something similar happened with RW, and the outcome was death?

That was my initial thought. One shoved the other one, resulting in a fall or hitting her head on a desk/chair and not seeking medical treatment for the possible brain bleed.

 

[sloane7777]

I've been sitting on my hands, not wanting to say anything, but this happened to me - thing is, I would have been the perp.

Many long years ago, when I was about the same age, fifth grade, I went to the girl's room. As I was leaving, another girl from my class came in. For whatever reason, she refused to let me leave. She wanted to get me in trouble, I think. Things were quite strict back in those days, there were rules and we HAD to obey them, not like today. I wanted to get out of there, but she just wouldn't let me, stood in my way blocking me. Well, I gave her a good push. She hit the wall with a thud and slid down. She landed on the floor in a sitting position, head sorta hanging down. I honestly thought I'd killed her, I think it would have been a possibility, walls back then were made to last.

When she started to get up, finally, I ran out and back to class. She and I never spoke again and I never raised my hand in anger against another child. I could have killed her, would it have been my fault?

nope I call it self defense , and that may very well be what happened and them being minors we may never know !

 

[sloane7777]

In my case my girl weighs a buck 05 ( and shes autistic) and this girl is an Amazon , I don't think my little one could physically hurt her even in defense . but I see what you are saying. we just don't know yet

 

[Lamima]

I don't think hitting a head on a wall or floor or desk from a push or shove is going to kill. It has to be a hard hit. Maybe a fall over a balcony. Down some stairs. Maybe she was standing on something and they shoved it out from under her. Like that bridge girl who pushed her friend, though, there are consequences to those kind of actions.

I wonder if the school did CPR???

 

[MimosaMornings]

Raniya Wright death: What could happen to other student in fight at Forest Hills school

 

[MimosaMornings]

Community devastated after 10-year-old dies following classroom fight

 

[kaen]

I tried with the irving PD, they referred me back to the school and told me to file small claims for the cost of the glasses and the school refuses to give me any information on the parent (privacy law) and shes not in the same class finally got a kids last name but it appears by my searching the mom has a different last name , so went to the ISD office and they referred me back to the Irving PD , so I did the unthinkable and stalked the kid on the way home ( taking off from work ) and now have a complex with a apt # , still haven't found the parents name , but I have plans after work to knock on the door and see if this is a reasonable parent ( I will keep you all updated ) I really feel for this family , I really wonder what they had to go thru or if this was the first fight , if this little girl was bullies and scared I will be spitting nails more than I am right now !!!!

First, I am sorry this happened to your child. You have every right as a parent to press charges. Of course, no one on the school side or the LEO side wants that to happen for a child but in this day and age the consequences can be dire if no actions are taken. I am not sure when this awful thing happened to your child but where I live it is not uncommon for a complaint to be written and the police to follow up with both involved families. Our LEO doesn't want parents talking to parents anymore because, let's face it, parents can get hurt or the situation can escalate beyond words.

I work in a school and have suggested that parents/guardians swear out a complaint if they are unsatisfied with the school's response. Schools are limited but a parent/guardian has the duty to protect their child.

 

[kaen]

I've been sitting on my hands, not wanting to say anything, but this happened to me - thing is, I would have been the perp.

When she started to get up, finally, I ran out and back to class. She and I never spoke again and I never raised my hand in anger against another child. I could have killed her, would it have been my fault?

SBM. In my opinion, it would have been your fault. Would it have been murder? I don't think so necessarily but you would have been responsible. Children do things without thinking and without a sense of the consequences of their actions. Additionally, we can't cherry pick which situations are criminal or not based on the remorse or regret of the actor. Yes, the person who blocked you was wrong and you did not deserve to be blocked at the door but, in schools, we can't let kids lay their hands on each other. I work in the inner city and have seen some horrible situations. And, I have seen some benign situations that had dire consequences.

 

[kaen]

I don't think hitting a head on a wall or floor or desk from a push or shove is going to kill. It has to be a hard hit. Maybe a fall over a balcony. Down some stairs. Maybe she was standing on something and they shoved it out from under her. Like that bridge girl who pushed her friend, though, there are consequences to those kind of actions.

I wonder if the school did CPR???

A fall onto the floor, hitting the corner of a desk or a slam into a locker can cause a brain bleed. If there was damage to her head at the base of her skull she could have had a bleed in parts of the brain that affects basic body functions. A freak fall can kill. Also, she was airlifted quickly to a high level response hospital so I am guessing that she had major head trauma since the articles said she was unconscious and breathing.

The articles said that the child was unconscious and breathing when EMS arrived so there would be no need for CPR.

 

[CSIDreamer]

School Board releases brief statement on 5th grader’s death, community members angrily demand answers

 

[Lamima]

A fall onto the floor, hitting the corner of a desk or a slam into a locker can cause a brain bleed. If there was damage to her head at the base of her skull she could have had a bleed in parts of the brain that affects basic body functions. A freak fall can kill. Also, she was airlifted quickly to a high level response hospital so I am guessing that she had major head trauma since the articles said she was unconscious and breathing.

The articles said that the child was unconscious and breathing when EMS arrived so there would be no need for CPR.

Could but not likely. I had a concussion from running down sidewalk that was cracked and raised up and tripped and slammed my head on the cement full force to knock me out. Woke vomiting but didn't get admitted to hospital. Was sent home to recover from concussion. Didn't die. Takes a lot of force for skull fracture. And those ski incidents where they crash and walk around all day and then die...those are high speed impacts. Not a shove by a 10 year old. Sorry, not buying it may have just been a shove.

 

[Lamima]

School-fight death of SC 5th-grader Raniya Wright has Walterboro residents seeking action

Autopsy planned for today.

 

[jjenny]

I don't think hitting a head on a wall or floor or desk from a push or shove is going to kill. It has to be a hard hit. Maybe a fall over a balcony. Down some stairs. Maybe she was standing on something and they shoved it out from under her. Like that bridge girl who pushed her friend, though, there are consequences to those kind of actions.

I wonder if the school did CPR???

CPR should be done on someone whose heart stopped. She was reportedly breathing. Doesn't sound like she needed CPR.

 

[jjenny]

Could but not likely. I had a concussion from running down sidewalk that was cracked and raised up and tripped and slammed my head on the cement full force to knock me out. Woke vomiting but didn't get admitted to hospital. Was sent home to recover from concussion. Didn't die. Takes a lot of force for skull fracture. And those ski incidents where they crash and walk around all day and then die...those are high speed impacts. Not a shove by a 10 year old. Sorry, not buying it may have just been a shove.

Many people have concussions and don't die. That doesn't mean no one dies from a concussion.

 

[Jewels53]

This just breaks my heart and I hope they fully investigate. I have a granddaughter that just turned 10 yrs old today and I can't imagine this happening to her.

I don't understand how come the adult in the room didn't stop this or at least call for help. At least the way I understand there was an adult in the room at the time.

I hope the autopsy gives them conclusive answers.

jmo moo

 

[jjenny]

Might be hard for teachers to stop fights as they can get in trouble themselves if they physically put their hands on children.
In this particular case I saw an article describing an injury as appearing minor. My guess is also that she was shoved and hit her head on a corner of a desk. If you hit your head just right you could die.

 

[kaen]

Could but not likely. I had a concussion from running down sidewalk that was cracked and raised up and tripped and slammed my head on the cement full force to knock me out. Woke vomiting but didn't get admitted to hospital. Was sent home to recover from concussion. Didn't die. Takes a lot of force for skull fracture. And those ski incidents where they crash and walk around all day and then die...those are high speed impacts. Not a shove by a 10 year old. Sorry, not buying it may have just been a shove.

A concussion is different than a brain bleed or aneurysm. (study of traumatic aneurysms https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3313702/)Autopsy is today. We will find out what killed her. The sad thing is that this was preventable on so many levels.

I fear one issue that will be found is the length of time of the injury and getting higher level care--- she was not conscious at the health office, taken to a local hospital and, then, airlifted ---which means that valuable time was lost in getting her the level of care she needed. Was she in the classroom or office after the "fight" and how long did it take to lose consciousness. If she lost consciousness immediately, she would have been rescued in class.

 

[Lamima]

This says she suffered serious injuries...

Raniya Wright: What we know about the 5th-grader who died after a classroom fight - CNN

ALso, they held vigil.