SC - Walter Scott, 50, fatally shot by North Charleston PD officer, 4 April 2015 - #1

[Tawny]

Do you have a link confirming Mr. Scott had two prior offenses of driving on a suspended?
Court records would be great. I used to belong to a child support enforcement group so I know just because a law is on the books, doesn't mean it's always used.

No no no... This is my fault. I brought up Julius Wilson, that's who BayouBelle_LA was referring to with that post. I'm sorry :/

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Do you perhaps have a link to support what you are saying? I have been under the impression that child support stopped accruing after the child reached 18 or graduated high school but that any arrearages from before that remain collectable, even if the "child" is well into adulthood and paid to the person who actually supported the child. Also, I've never heard on interest on child support. I have heard of the child support agency getting an administrative fee however.

Scott didn't stay current with his child support payments. Still not a reason to be killed, especially since the cop didn't even know that about the victim.

In my state, interest is accrued on back child support. So what likely happened is that Scott's CS accrued until age 18/HS graduation, and since he's continuously been behind it would have accrued interest as well. Therefore even though the children are older now, the amount he owes could still be growing if he's not making regular payments.

Some agencies get a fee and some don't. Here, if the District Court Trustee handles the case, there's a 5% fee. If state Child Support Enforcement handles it, there's no fee.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Do you have a link confirming Mr. Scott had two prior offenses of driving on a suspended?
Court records would be great. I used to belong to a child support enforcement group so I know just because a law is on the books, doesn't mean it's always used.

Why would I have a link? I never said Mr. Scott was driving on a suspended license.

 

[al66pine]

Yet just upthread, it's stated that he chased Scott because he ran, back when we were being erroneously told that running is a felony. So which is it?

I don't believe my post raised Tawny's question, but just posted SC statute re resisting arrest & assaulting LEOs.

Might be helpful. Or not.

 

[Cubby]

Do you perhaps have a link to support what you are saying? I have been under the impression that child support stopped accruing after the child reached 18 or graduated high school but that any arrearages from before that remain collectable, even if the "child" is well into adulthood and paid to the person who actually supported the child. Also, I've never heard on interest on child support. I have heard of the child support agency getting an administrative fee however.

Scott didn't stay current with his child support payments. Still not a reason to be killed, especially since the cop didn't even know that about the victim.

Most of what you posted is correct. Child support arrears to collect interest. In fact, I received something from the state advising me I could go to court to collect interest on any unpaid child support for several years back. It was a general letter........

I'll also add from personal experience (in my county) the judges are mostly pretty leniant on these guys. I sat in court waiting hours for my turn and it was dad after dad where the judge was asking if they could make some kind of payment. The judge was even offering 10 dollars a week, or 20 dollars a week just to pay something. And there were lots of continuances while the NCP was supposed to be looking for work. (They are supposed to keep a log for court, but I've never seen a judge ask for one while I was in court.)

In Mr. Scott's case, MSM indicated he had not made a payment since 2012. While I am not judging, he would have had it much easier in CS court had he made occasional payments, something....Judges are a bit more understanding when they see some effort to send something, even if it is not the fully amount owed.

That said, non payment of CS does not warrant being killed....... I'm sad for everyone in this..... No one comes out a winner. A man is dead, another man expecting his first child anyday is behind bars and may stay there for the rest of his life. There is the possibility the only visits Slager has with his kid are prison visits...... Again, no one wins here. Two families devistated.

 

[Cubby]

Mr. Scott is the victim. Victims and their families, unless named as POIs by LE, are off-limits.

I read ALL the newbie stuff and think I got that part right. Right?

Yes, you got it right. ....and I just noticed you were new. :welcome: Glad to have you here!!

 

[Cubby]

Has msm even confirmed Santana has retained an attorney?

smh

 

[KEVINinTO]

Has msm even confirmed Santana has retained an attorney?

smh

If you caught any of Santana's television appearance's during his New York media blitz you will have seen that he was accompanied by Todd Rutherford who was identified as "his attorney". Whether or not Santana retained Rutherford OR he was furnished by the family it is not known.

 

[KEVINinTO]

Has msm even confirmed Santana has retained an attorney?

smh

Also I see this Post & Courier article stating that Todd Rutherford is the attorney for Santana (I believe the Post & Courier would be considered MSM - it was the paper that first released the video). Also in the same article they state that Ryan Julison is the spokeman for the Scott family. Google "Ryan Julison Trayvon Martin" for background on Julison. I have seen speculation online that Rutherford is an associate of Julison but I have not seen any proof of this so it is speculation at this point.

http://www.postandcourier.com/artic...ised-online-for-scott-man-who-filmed-shooting

 

[Tawny]

This man is trigger happy, his own history proves it.

Stop blaming the victim.

 

[Tawny]

I can't tell if he's on top of him or trying to get up and away from him, I don't know how y'all are seeing them definitely brawling.

 

[tambo]

I for one am glad if the guy who took the video has an attorney. It seems as though some people are painting him out to be a liar, and a criminal with some sort of hidden agenda. Smh

 

[KEVINinTO]

bbm ibm

KEVINinTO

Thanks for the screen grab link. As Nancy Grace would say BOMBSHELL.
Supports argument that Scott did more that just swipe his open palm at Slager or at the Taser,
w Scott immed'ly running off afterward.

Respectfully, does itdisprove witness' assertion that LEO had situation under control??? IDTS.

Men fighting on the ground??? Doesn't it show there was mos-def a 'real fight', real aggression, a brawl.
(something past a 'tussle' some in SM have used to suggest it was almost like a friendly pillow fight).
The balance of power went back & forth. One man carrying weapons which may be taken away and used against him? One weapon out & 'in play.' Photo evd, at one point, Scott was on top of Slager.

Yeah, that could create fear for his life.

JM2cts.

I think this does prove that the situation was not under control. Under control would mean that Scott was face down on the ground with his hands cuffed behind him (until a suspect is in handcuffs LE do not consider the situation under control). What we see is the officer on the ground with Scott who is in an upright position. Not a good situation for an officer to be in especially if that suspect is grabbing for your taser!

 

[tambo]

I really have to laugh sometimes, all these people making little comments about the guy who took the video, and how he's not telling the truth, he edited the video, he just wants his 15 minutes of fame, blah blah blah. And then at the same time begrudge the people that don't talk to the media. And assume that by not speaking they must be hiding something.

 

[KEVINinTO]

I for one am glad if the guy who took the video has an attorney. It seems as though some people are painting him out to be a liar, and a criminal with some sort of hidden agenda. Smh

There is absolutely no reason why Santana needs to retain an attorney. He is not in any kind of legal jeopardy for taking a video. I wonder why in cases such as this witnesses feel the need to lawyer-up? Do they actually retain the attorney's on their own or are they foisted on them by those people representing the victim families? We saw the same phenomenon with Ferguson.

 

[Brightbird]

I can't tell if he's on top of him or trying to get up and away from him, I don't know how y'all are seeing them definitely brawling.

Same. I can see one green figure next to a blue figure, and both look upright. That's all I can tell. I'm afraid I can't really take seriously a blog that talks in conspiratorial tones about optics, a black grievance industry, and media narratives as though what they're doing isn't just an alternative narrative from a different viewpoint. Also the fact that they get some of their material from another blog named whiteskinnedman.

 

[dodie20]

I for one am glad if the guy who took the video has an attorney. It seems as though some people are painting him out to be a liar, and a criminal with some sort of hidden agenda. Smh

it's a shame that a person isn't allowed to be a good Samaritan anymore. If he doesn't get a lawyer, he's fair game and gets ripped to shreds. I'm wondering what other countries are thinking right now? Right or wrong, the USA labels some countries, 'enter at your own risk', but then those countries look at us and see cops gunning unarmed people down in the streets... and I bet they think we're a land full of hypocrites. moo.

 

[al66pine]

I'm sorry but there is no way to tell from that blurry screen grab that anyone was in any danger. I'm not saying they weren't, but looking at THAT as some sort of proof is a stretch....

bbm sbm

Does anyone think ---
after Scott's suspicious actions on-duty LEOs would voluntarily lay (lie?) down in an alley and
allow someone to get in a position on top of them or kneeling over them, as shown in pic?
Just for fun? A dare? For giggles? IDTS.
JM2cts and I could be wrong.

 

[dodie20]

I have been trying to understand why some people are just not getting it that this police officer murdered this man. I think i have just found the reason, that place is nothing but trash. It couldn't be more obvious what is really going on here.

My computer is set up through my husband's job. He works at a Baptist University and they censor out the really bad, offensive stuff . My internet refused to open the site...nuff said. I get the idea, sigh...

 

[tambo]

I am seriously trying to see that in that blurry picture, but I just don't. Not to mention I'd like to see someone else take a still shot of that, for some reason i bet someone else can get a clearer one. I don't know how to do that, but i'm sure others do. I just would never in a million years trust anything that came from that site, They are very well known for fabricating things to fit their agenda, which i think we all know what their agenda is. Again, couldn't be more obvious.