GUILTY SC - Walter Scott, 50, fatally shot by North Charleston PD officer, 4 April 2015 - #2

[Jax49]

And the judge left to ponder...

 

[Tawny]

Sounds like one juror may be refusing to deliberate further ...not sure.


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If a juror refuses, can they be dismissed? (Thanks for helping to clarify things for me, everyone <3)

 

[minor4th]

I have to say - I really admire the foreman for making every single effort to get a verdict, especially since it's Friday afternoon and everyone probably wants to go home.

Good for him. (Edited to correct gender)

 

[daisymae]

Judge calls for recess

 

[Jax49]

I have to say - I really admire the foreman for making every single effort to get a verdict, especially since it's Friday afternoon and everyone probably wants to go home.

Good for her.

He, not she. He is also the only black on the jury.

ETA: Interesting point, in SC the judge appoints the foreman.

 

[daisymae]

jury returning to courtroom

 

[minor4th]

Defense is really angling for mistrial before judge can decide to send them back again.

Not sure what I think.


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[daisymae]

prosecution opposes mistrial

 

[Cryptic]

If a juror refuses, can they be dismissed? (Thanks for helping to clarify things for me, everyone <3)

Yes, refusing to deliberate can get a juror dismissed- at least in theory.

But.... I think dismissals for this are rare because if there is a conviction, appellate attorneys will claim that a pro defendant juror was unfairly removed as they were willing to deliberate, but were just not willing to agree to a conviction.

If the juror is dismissed, an alternative juror will be used. I believe they always seat 12 jurors and 2 alternates in these types of trials.

 

[Jax49]

They dismissed the alternates before deliberation started.

 

[daisymae]

waiting for a decision

 

[drjones]

what live link are you all using?

 

[Cryptic]

They dismissed the alternates before deliberation started.

Yikes, cant one be brought back and enter into the deliberations?

 

[Woodland]

Of course the prosecution will oppose a mistrial - it appears one a-hole is looking for 15 minutes of fame - because they can.

Hardly what they were sworn in to do = emotional fool.

 

[Tawny]

Yes, refusing to deliberate can get a juror dismissed- at least in theory.

But.... I think dismissals for this are rare because if there is a conviction, appellate attorneys will claim that a pro defendant juror was unfairly removed as they were willing to deliberate, but were just not willing to agree to a conviction.

If the juror is dismissed, an alternative juror will be used. I believe they always seat 12 jurors and 2 alternates in these types of trials.

Thanks for clearing that up for me, and it makes total sense. It would be pretty subjective.

 

[Jax49]

what live link are you all using?

http://www.live5news.com/story/33571583/live-blog-slager-trial

 

[Jax49]

I was surprised about the alternates, but I'm sure they were dismissed, because I listened to it happen.

 

[drjones]

Thanks for clearing that up for me, and it makes total sense. It would be pretty subjective.

i dont understand why they havent inquired further about the "issues" comment made by the foreman, if the issues of the holdout relate to whether or not he is deliberating in good faith then that would be important to know. it seems they would at least need to clarify that, maybe his issues are reasonable and just related to his understanding of the law and his job...

 

[daisymae]

jury returning to courtroom

 

[drjones]

http://www.live5news.com/story/33571583/live-blog-slager-trial

ok thank you, thats the one i am using. it just seems like people keep saying things are happening on there that im not seeing lol.