School Bus making stops at McDonalds on way to school?

[Tom'sGirl]

Although I think this is a nice gesture on the bus driver's part, it still is an "Unauthorized Stop" and in my district against School Policy and the driver would be in deep doo-doo for doing so, especially on a regular basis.

 

[luvbeaches]

Some people will complain about anything. I would imagine her son is mortified.

 

[Amraann]

Many of you are mentioning a school district bus..

If you read the article this is a company subcontracted to bus these kids.
Possibly not under the same rules as a distrust run bus garage.

Also I am fairly certain these kids told there parents .. there Has been no mention that it was a secret.
For that matter the bus co probably ssent a note and with the mirade of notes sent at the beginning of the year the mother could have missed it or he kid knowing his mother is a flake forged it.

In High School I think kids know what they can and can't eat.
ANd I agree that the cafateria is no health food example.

 

[Casshew]

Today when Noel came home from school (she is in a 12 seater van) I saw her get out, the driver get out and then kids start getting out and I think WTF?

Noel comes in and says a kid needs to use the bathroom - it's an emergency... in walks this little girl - she is 4 years old. Her 6 year old Brother is behind her and the Bus Driver who looks apologetically at me.

I take the little girl to the powder room and ask is she needs any help - she says no and goes in. Then we all stand there in the hall and I am thinking to myself - if this girls Mom hears she came into a strangers house to use the bathroom - I wonder what she will think/say?

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Many of you are mentioning a school district bus..

If you read the article this is a company subcontracted to bus these kids.
Possibly not under the same rules as a distrust run bus garage.

Also I am fairly certain these kids told there parents .. there Has been no mention that it was a secret.
For that matter the bus co probably ssent a note and with the mirade of notes sent at the beginning of the year the mother could have missed it or he kid knowing his mother is a flake forged it.

In High School I think kids know what they can and can't eat.
ANd I agree that the cafateria is no health food example.

Again, I'm not saying the driver was not well intentioned, and I'm sure the students love it.

It's not unuaual for many school districts who don't have their own fleet, or need extra bus' to sub-contract with private bus lines such as Laidlaw for instance in our area.

Whether they are owned by the district, or sub-contracted, the rules are the rules.

But again, I don't know what that School District Policies are regarding transporting students to and from school.

 

[angelmom]

Many of you are mentioning a school district bus..

If you read the article this is a company subcontracted to bus these kids.
Possibly not under the same rules as a distrust run bus garage.

Also I am fairly certain these kids told there parents .. there Has been no mention that it was a secret.
For that matter the bus co probably ssent a note and with the mirade of notes sent at the beginning of the year the mother could have missed it or he kid knowing his mother is a flake forged it.

In High School I think kids know what they can and can't eat.
ANd I agree that the cafateria is no health food example.

My guess is that a private company will be even less forgiving than a government beaurocracy about a rule violation because of their greater risk of being sued. I would be interested to know whether or not this was preapproved (my bet is no) and what action was taken.

 

[tompettyfan]

Man, the only time our driver ever stopped the bus was to convince us that if we didn't shut up, we might just sit there well into old age. I could never be a school bus driver.:bang:

 

[Gozgals]

The bus drivers here do the same thing, take the kids to the ice cream shop on the last day of school. I wasn't told in advance that it was going to happen, but I thought it was really neat when I learned of it.

As for diabetes, by highschool it is up to the child to control what he eats. The other kids shouldn't have to sacrifice because of it. Obviously children with diabetes manage to eat things they shouldn't and put themselves into diabetic comas even if their bus driver doesn't take them to McDonalds.

:dance: Thank you Mabel.

Well, having personal experience in diabetic diets since childhood and as a former nutritionist with a degree-you hit a point I would like to comment on.

The last I heard, Diabetic diets INCLUDE a variety of foods even the hated McDonalds and an assortment of sweets. Hum, many say. Yes, with the addition of the once used and outdated EXCHANGE GROUPS which I taught in hospital classes, (and are still used) and the addition of counting CHO- Carbohydrates, diabetics can count their insulin requirements.

This is possible as the insulin can be regulated in those that are not considered BRITTLE DIABETIC'S to allow them to eat foods that are now allotted that once were not. It is done by matching insulin to foods. Usually only the Carbohydrates are now counted and added when using these methods. I will leave it at that and not go to deeply here.

With the addition of insulin pumps being used with some, transplanted pancreas, and other medical devices diabetics can be included and enjoy what they were not allowed during the cave-men times. (if they know how!)

And as Mabel said-they are human too and can cheat. Life is not one big restriction. CHO counting is a good way to incorporate treats. I will not get technical here on some of the medical advances or the exchanges on new insulin's, devices, etc.
--But to say: the bus driver must allow for the diabetic is insane. As high schoolers, a diabetic knows their limits and is free to chose what they can and can't do. They can adjust their requirements if need be and if they know how or ask a med. professional.

It is noted: One out of two diabetic, Juvenile- (Child type) will develop complications of diabetes no matter how well their blood sugar is controlled due to the nature of the disease.

So this has no place in this argument. If we allow one disease we must take into account every child on this basis. * If a child had a nut allergie, I would have to agree-- no-body on the bus should have ice-cream with the aroma of nuts that was able to be spread all over the bus. This could be a dangerous situation..

Another basis would be: Why is the bus driver being looked at as some type of criminal by a person here or that even brought to light just in case? If you disagree with what the bus driver did, fine -- but to be cynical of everyone's motive in society is just not .......

Yes, I think it was Tybee that stated: "We want to suck the life out of kids now a days" something to that effect.:doh:

:HappyBday TO ME. OLD AGE CAN SUCK YOU DRY, OR IS IT THAT OLE' BODY...BANG:bang:

 

[Linda7NJ]

:dance: Thank you Mabel.

EDITED

So this has no place in this argument. If we allow one disease we must take into account every child on this basis. * If a child had a nut allergies, I would have to agree-- no-body on the bus should have ice-cream with the aroma of nuts that was able to be spread all over the bus. This could be a dangerous situation..

Ok, Now you've hit a sore spot with me. LOL ALL peanut products have been banned at my sons school because ONE child has a peanut allergy! Now I am a compassionate person....however, this is ridiculous!

I no longer send my kid to school with anything containing peanut butter. But frankly, I have better things to do than read every single label to see what other products may contain peanut oil. Surely, if just the most minute particle of a peanut could really cause the death of a child, their parents wouldn't allow their children out of the house let alone trust the life of their child to a bunch of other parents they don't even know....:waitasec:

I don't have the solution but I would imagine these peanut allergic people live to be adults and function in the world without the world banning peanut products!

Many children are allergic to bees...but they are allowed outside...I just don't get it!

Epi Pens are a wonderful thing!

 

[Gozgals]

I hope the sore spot was not with me if so I say "sorry!" I was citing an example in favor of the bus driver. I know about peanut allergies as I have a family member with them. No harm intended. I meant, that I would understand. It taken wrong, I extend an apology. I'm with you on the peanut thing.

EDIT: I meant no harm. I didn't think the child should be left out, etc. I didn't mean to harm a child or ban him or for a parent to leave him out or make him feel different, I know that some peanut allergies can cause a child to have anaphylactic shock. Why jump on someone? that was not the point. It was a point of compassion.

Always quick to judge what another is saying. That was the point. Nobody said:

read label, do this do that. I do not have a child with peanut allergies, I do not know the extent of yours, I did not want to make a leper out of a child, etc. I stated something. Jump, jump, jump and jump.......

It was an example. Make sure to bold it out again. It was a case of compassion. Arguing is always the way. I did not like being a leper either. I thought of what I learned in a hospital on allergy Linda, I did not know it was ban already. Forgive me for that. That is all. Compassion is different then explanation. .....

 

[Linda7NJ]

I hope the sore spot was not with me if so i say "sorry!" I was citing an example in favor of the bus driver. I know about peanut allergies as I have a family member with them. No harm intended. I meant, that I would understand. It taken wrong, I extend an apology. I'm with you on the peanut thing. .

Oh no! Not you personally! I just meant the topic....you brought up a pet peeve of mine and since the peanut banning at my son's school my skivvies have been in a knot! LOL

I am glad you brought it up!:blowkiss:

 

[Gozgals]

see the edit verison...and compassion goes a long way.

have a great day...yes, the day is going well.

the bus driver is an azz , happy...*

Sick people care of others..my last word...

 

[Linda7NJ]

:waitasec: Ok, now I am really confused!

 

[Gozgals]

:waitasec: Ok, now I am really confused!

Ok:doh: well maybe I read it wrong too, sometimes the written word is a tad bit confusing when one hits anothers sore spot.-mine-- yours. I got confused by your answer...quick to the gun..

~~~~~] bows head in shame. (hell, can't remember my skills here)

"so here we stand, head in hand...."

so I say: if the misunderstanding...:blowkiss:

blessings to your child! and all those out there..
back to the busdriver..

likes to kill fun......!!!:razz:

 

[CyberLaw]

Regarding the peanut issue, on the first day of school for my oldest, there was a discussion in every class and a note sent home, indicating that no peanut product(or any products that may contain peanuts)are allowed at school.

I was taken aback, as this was the first day.

But two students were deathly allergic to peanuts. These students even ate their lunch in a room all by themselves.

Now I think that all school in our district have a no peanut policy.....just to be sure.

 

[Hbgchick]

I believe Angelmom does has a point - the bus driver should let someone know where they are in case of an emergency. However, it could be that the school was aware of the weekly trip and it was just this particular mother that was not.

Having said that, I think it's a great idea to stop at McDonalds. Did anyone notice the kids get up - voluntarily - 15 minutes EARLY on Fridays to go? If I were a parent of a teen (granted, I'm not a parent at all so go ahead and tell me what I don't know because I haven't been there) I'd be cheering.

 

[Hbgchick]

Regarding the peanut issue, on the first day of school for my oldest, there was a discussion in every class and a note sent home, indicating that no peanut product(or any products that may contain peanuts)are allowed at school.

I was taken aback, as this was the first day.

But two students were deathly allergic to peanuts. These students even ate their lunch in a room all by themselves.

Now I think that all school in our district have a no peanut policy.....just to be sure.

Are you freaking SERIOUS?!?! All schools should have a "no peanut policy"? Please. I know someone who is allergic to mustard and any products containing mustard. She somehow made it to age 60+ without a schoolwide or even a nationwide ban on mustard-containing products...which include katsup, 99% of all seasonings, and a whole load of stuff that you'd never even think of. I went to elementary school with a child with peanut allergies, and from a VERY young age she and all of her friends knew what peanut oils were and that they could not to eat foods that contained them. We actually all thought it was kind of cool that she was unique in this way - when we all had to eat PB&J she got all kinds of neat organic stuff.

We need to draw the line somewhere folks. This is the issue for the parent of the ONE OR TWO CHILDREN that have peanut allergies to decide how to best protect their children. Banning peanuts in all schools is NOT the answer, nor is banning an innocent trip to McDonalds. Sheesh.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Are you freaking SERIOUS?!?! All schools should have a "no peanut policy"? Please. I know someone who is allergic to mustard and any products containing mustard. She somehow made it to age 60+ without a schoolwide or even a nationwide ban on mustard-containing products...which include katsup, 99% of all seasonings, and a whole load of stuff that you'd never even think of. I went to elementary school with a child with peanut allergies, and from a VERY young age she and all of her friends knew what peanut oils were and that they could not to eat foods that contained them. We actually all thought it was kind of cool that she was unique in this way - when we all had to eat PB&J she got all kinds of neat organic stuff.

We need to draw the line somewhere folks. This is the issue for the parent of the ONE OR TWO CHILDREN that have peanut allergies to decide how to best protect their children. Banning peanuts in all schools is NOT the answer, nor is banning an innocent trip to McDonalds. Sheesh.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: You go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tybee204]

I cant believe a school would ban everyone from eating peanut butter because some kids have peanut allergies.

I recieved a note home from a teacher once telling us all students in her class had to use a certain brand of soap and shampoo that year because she was allerigic to most soap products. I sent her a note back telling her to take a freaken claritin.

 

[Hbgchick]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: You go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:blushing: Thanks. But honestly...this just sounds plain crazy to me!!