scotland yard investigation

[thisiseku]

is there a picture of gerry and the e-fits together?

 

[aa9511]

is there a picture of Gerry and the e-fits together?

I don't know. I just saw the e-fits and then I was looking at some interviews the McCanns had given, and to me the e-fit looks like Gerry.

 

[aa9511]

I am new to this board but have been looking for a place to discuss this case for a while.

What bothers me is why SY have done this reconstruction. It was not complete or accurate to the timeline, so surely that does more harm than good.

The evidence that they said was a 'revelation' was not entirely new and the PJ did know about the night creche and I believe had all but discredited Tanner's sighting anyway.

I feel it is for one of these reasons:

1. To flush out the McCanns and put pressure on them. The 'elephant in the room' on that Crimewatch program was obvious - it's like the interviewer was dancing around the obvious line of questioning. It was all very odd. Perhaps they produced this program for reasons unknown to us to do with observing the McCanns.

2. To take the heat off themselves over 2 very negative stories which are breaking this week about the Met Police here in the UK - the Mark Duggan and Andrew Mitchell cases. Perhaps they are desperate to show the public that they are doing something positive although I will dispute this.

3. To show the British public what they have done with our £5 million although anyone in the 'know', knows they have achieved very little.

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[aa9511]

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Omigosh. I'm sure Gerry is not sleeping well these days with that e-fit out, whether he is guilty or innocent. It does look like him.

The question is did the people describing the person for this e-fit describe what they had seen on tv (Gerry), or actually describing the person in the actually sighting they did?

What they should have done is compiled these e-fits in the very beginning of the case, not 6 years down the line! Argh....

 

[Donjeta]

Omigosh. I'm sure Gerry is not sleeping well these days with that e-fit out, whether he is guilty or innocent. It does look like him.

The question is did the people describing the person for this e-fit describe what they had seen on tv (Gerry), or actually describing the person in the actually sighting they did?

What they should have done is compiled these e-fits in the very beginning of the case, not 6 years down the line! Argh....

Those e-fits were not made 6 years down the line, they were made in 2008 (But I'm sure they had seen Gerry by then).

 

[chlban]

sherlockh;9903102

Interesting developments to say the least. With the JT sighting out of the way, and the Smiths sighting on page one, it does not seem that SY is just playing cover ups. The Smiths who identified Gerry McCann as the 'abductor'! I am still skeptical but might there be any chance that these people will be arrested any time soon now? JMO

So I have a question on those lines. Can they still be prosecuted? I mean, I realize eveyrone's theories may vary, but for the sake of argument, let's say she died as a result of an accident and they disposed of the body. Wouldn't the Statute of Limitaion s have expired? Same, i would think with criminal negligence, child abuse, a bunch of related items.

Of course, I am unfamiliar with Portugese or English law (where would they actually be prosecuted?) but, assuming like the US, Murder is the only crime without a Statute of Limitations unless they could prove that Maddie was drugged and thereby charge them wth some equivalent of 2nd. degree murder, can they even still be prosecuted? Obviously proving she was drugged at this point is not going to happen even if they found the body, which I suspect they never will.

 

[Cappuccino]

sherlockh;9903102

So I have a question on those lines. Can they still be prosecuted? I mean, I realize eveyrone's theories may vary, but for the sake of argument, let's say she died as a result of an accident and they disposed of the body. Wouldn't the Statute of Limitaion s have expired? Same, i would think with criminal negligence, child abuse, a bunch of related items.

Of course, I am unfamiliar with Portugese or English law (where would they actually be prosecuted?) but, assuming like the US, Murder is the only crime without a Statute of Limitations unless they could prove that Maddie was drugged and thereby charge them wth some equivalent of 2nd. degree murder, can they even still be prosecuted? Obviously proving she was drugged at this point is not going to happen even if they found the body, which I suspect they never will.

Anybody who was prosecuted would be prosecuted in Portugal. I don't know about Portuguese law, but under English law there is no statute of limitations on many crimes, (that's why Operation Yewtree is charging people with child abuse stretching back to the 60s), and it wouldn't surprise me if Portugal was similar.

 

[BOESP]

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If people actually went and read all the staffs statements (ignoring the tapas 9 statements) and worked out a timeline based on what they have said then they would realise that it's near impossible that who Martin Smith said he saw is Gerry.

I'm fairly new to this case and in the BBM, I'm curious if such a timeline has been done? If so, would it be rude to ask for you to share it here for us new folks just now looking at this case? TIA

 

[Linda7NJ]

sherlockh;9903102

So I have a question on those lines. Can they still be prosecuted? I mean, I realize eveyrone's theories may vary, but for the sake of argument, let's say she died as a result of an accident and they disposed of the body. Wouldn't the Statute of Limitaion s have expired? Same, i would think with criminal negligence, child abuse, a bunch of related items.

Of course, I am unfamiliar with Portugese or English law (where would they actually be prosecuted?) but, assuming like the US, Murder is the only crime without a Statute of Limitations unless they could prove that Maddie was drugged and thereby charge them wth some equivalent of 2nd. degree murder, can they even still be prosecuted? Obviously proving she was drugged at this point is not going to happen even if they found the body, which I suspect they never will.

I doubt they could ever be successfully prosecuted.




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[haden]

I doubt they could ever be successfully prosecuted.




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The parents were in PDL only for 3 days before Madeleine went missing. They could not know the area that well to dispose the body of their occidentally dead child. Plus they did not have time for this. This was investigated inside out.
They could only do this if helped by someone, and who would help someone in disposing the body while on holiday?

 

[Donjeta]

The parents were in PDL only for 3 days before Madeleine went missing. They could not know the area that well to dispose the body of their occidentally dead child. Plus they did not have time for this. This was investigated inside out.
They could only do this if helped by someone, and who would help someone in disposing the body while on holiday?

Are these people really so stupid that they couldn't locate the sea or a dumpster in less than a year without somebody holding their hand?

 

[haden]

Are these people really so stupid that they couldn't locate the sea or a dumpster in less than a year without somebody holding their hand?

It is not the 'holding hand', it is the timeline..
If a friend says he was there and there at that time, while he actually is hiding the body, this is what I meant.
It is the parent's friend DP who is the person who last saw Madaline outside of the family group and this was at around 7pm.
At 20.30 McCanns go for dinner and look normal and relaxed.
If they just disposed the body of their child and are pretending everything is OK would someone notice this?
Between 20.30 and 9pm a friend checked on children but only listening
9pm Gerry does his check. 9.15 he is back. No time for disposal.
10pm when sighting of a man carrying the child is by Martin Smith, Gerry is at the table in Tapas Bar, seen by many.. and Kate is is apartment raising alarm.
So she could only be disposed between 7 i 8.30 pm

 

[gord]

Are these people really so stupid that they couldn't locate the sea or a dumpster in less than a year without somebody holding their hand?

don't forget retrieve the body weeks later to hire car - so that means no to dumpster and no to to sea

 

[thisiseku]

Maddie's body might have never been in the car. Her DNA could've gotten there from her clothes or other personal belongings.

 

[haden]

Maddie's body might have never been in the car. Her DNA could've gotten there from her clothes or other personal belongings.

The DNA in the car was not conclusive. This means it could be her mums, her dads or her brothers and sisters DNA.. British police who investigated on this was CLEAR on this.

 

[thisiseku]

The DNA in the car was not conclusive. This means it could be her mums, her dads or her brothers and sisters DNA.. British police who investigated on this was CLEAR on this.

What do I have to believe? McCann's said it was a meat they bought... they found Maddie's body fluids and hair. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562823/Madeleine-Hair-in-car-came-from-her-body.html

 

[Donjeta]

don't forget retrieve the body weeks later to hire car - so that means no to dumpster and no to to sea

I've never really understood why that would have been necessary.

 

[liz b.]

The DNA in the car was not conclusive. This means it could be her mums, her dads or her brothers and sisters DNA.. British police who investigated on this was CLEAR on this.

TY for posting this. i'm still reading here,but does this mean that MM's body could have been disposed of earlier ,on the evening that she went missing ? Is it know when the dumpsters in or around the resort were emptied ? jmo moo

 

[gord]

I've never really understood why that would have been necessary.

well the dogs alerted to the car ? must be consistent

 

[Revolver]

They would have to have gone very far out to ensure the body wouldn't wash up on shore. How covert were they in their daily travels? I'm sure that would have raised suspicions.