Search Warrants Unsealed Shacknai Zahau

[branwynbreeze]

The examiner's opinion is part of the test results. The examiner is the certified expert, you and I are not. The ME is also an expert. Evidently, the experts concluded they had enough information necessary to form the conclusion it was suicide.

JMO

If I am not mistaken, ME testimony is allowed in court, LDT results are not.

ETA, DS is not happy over MS COD, why can't some of us question RZ COD?

 

[MyBelle]

If I am not mistaken, ME testimony is allowed in court, LDT results are not.

So far, no crime has been determined thus, no court.

JMO

 

[steff13]

If I am not mistaken, ME testimony is allowed in court, LDT results are not.

I am always surprised when I see so much emphasis on the results of LDTs. They aren't admissible in court for a reason. They are an investigative tool, and nothing more.

 

[branwynbreeze]

I am always surprised when I see so much emphasis on the results of LDTs. They aren't admissible in court for a reason. They are an investigative tool, and nothing more.

Yes, that was my point.

 

[MyBelle]

Those same experts also concluded the child died in a tragic accident. But you are not happy with that, are you?

Were those experts aware of the allegations of planking at the time they formed their conclusions? I don't believe they were.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

I am always surprised when I see so much emphasis on the results of LDTs. They aren't admissible in court for a reason. They are an investigative tool, and nothing more.

Exactly. The expert does the analysis and it helps determine the investigation direction and conclusion. This one concluded suicide.

JMO

 

[steff13]

Yes, that was my point.

I know, I was just agreeing with you. Sorry.

 

[jjenny]

Were those experts aware of the allegations of planking at the time they formed their conclusions? I don't believe they were.

JMO

What's that has to do with a price of tea in China?

 

[branwynbreeze]

I know, I was just agreeing with you. Sorry.

No need to say sorry, I understood what you posted, just wanted to re-enforce point.

 

[steff13]

No need to say sorry, I understood what you posted, just wanted to re-enforce point.

Awesome! :rocker:

 

[SmoothOperator]

And what if Max was "planking"? It is about as reckless as what occurred.. Either way neither points to Rebecca having done anything nefarious, nor even negligent whatsoever to cause Max's death.. The accident could happen to anyone who has a little boy full of energy, curious, and making the horrible decision to try something that looks like fun but in reality is deathwish!! No parent or guardian has there eyes on a 6 yr old 60secs of every minute of every hour!! It is not possible.. Parents do go to the bathroom and sadly all it takes is the blink of an eye and one bad decision and an accident like this happens!!! Max is not the first, sadly nor will he be the last!! Hundreds, if not more children's deaths such as this happen per year, where the parent/guardian are NOT at fault!!

Planking or any other theory thrown out there isnt going to change what happened to Max, nor will it change suddenly making Rebecca guilty of his death..

However Rebecca's death unfortunately the same cannot be said for it.. It is obvious there is a mountain of unanswered questions that leave the case no where near being a thorough case.. That's one thing both families agree on!!

 

[SmoothOperator]

Yes, I mean Rebecca Zahau by RZ. I wonder why they didn't make her take a lie detector test from the start since MS's injuries weren't compatible with a fall. Now that she's gone, I don't know why they don't make XZ take one.

Are you following the same case that we are?!?! Really??!? Yea and I've seen your links <Mod Snip>..

The injuries ABSOLUTELY ARE CONSISTENT WITH A FALL and you've even got a 3D demo to show the exact reenactment of Max's "FALL"!!

In case you may not know, because I do... IMMEDIATELY UPON A CHILD ENTERING A HOSPITAL/ER ONCE THE CHILD's INJURIES ARE ASSESSED(and believe me Max's injuries had been very much assessed as well as extremely well documented!!) It is at that point that the healthcare providers MUST IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY DCS IF THEY HAVE ANY SUSPICION WHATSOEVER THAT THE INJURIES OCCURRED DIFFERENTLY FROM WHAT THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN HAS PURPOSED..

That is the law and that is how the law works.. These healthcare providers are not going to, especially in case such as this, they are nit going to hesitate one millisecond not having DCS IMMEDIATELY INVOLVED WITH A FULL AND EXTREMELY INVASIVE INTERROGATION AND LDT DONE OF THE GUARDIAN!!!

That did not happen, nor was there any discussion at a later time that there was foul play or even negligence!!

It's false to insinuate that they suddenly had come to a conclusion that Rebecca was guilty and oh! Golly darn! Too late she's already gone!! Doesn't work like that, didn't happen Like that, and that's the accurate truth of the matter!

 

[justbetweenus]

This is a video of the press-conference. I have just listened to the whole thing. I have heard nothing of the sort. In fact it was said because her phone was new and software was not available, they could not extract the message from her voicemail. I have not heard anything about them being able to extract that message from the phone it came from.
http://www.10news.com/video/29065367/index.html

I will try to listen to the whole thing again, but I'm sure if you did and didn't hear it, and no one else has heard, I guess I was wrong. Thanks.

 

[KarenM]

There is a petition to open an independent investigation into the death of the Rebecca Zahau on the web.

http://www.change.org/petitions/cal...stigation-into-the-death-of-the-rebecca-zahau

 

[Invisible]

BBM

Did Jonah not call Adam S. to get the details of the hanging??? Unbelievable!

That is exactly what bothers me. I text someone when I don't want to talk to them. If something terrible happens to someone I know, then I need to TALK to someone and emote. I need to hear what the other person has to say if it is a surprising or shocking thing, yep, I need to know the details. Sounds fishy to me.

 

[TGIRecovered]

I just want to point out that Wikilinks is not a source considered to be reliable for the purpose of proving facts. Anyone can put whatever they want on there.

 

[CDS22]

I just want to point out that Wikilinks is not a source considered to be reliable for the purpose of proving facts. Anyone can put whatever they want on there.

The quote is from the book, Principles of forensic medicine By William Augustus Guy.

 

[sdcali]

I provided a link to the video that contained Q&A portion. It has the whole thing from start to finish.

Thank you!

 

[steff13]

The quote is from the book, Principles of forensic medicine By William Augustus Guy.

I think that book was written in 1875.

ETA: It might be valid, but our understanding of many medical concepts has changed drastically in the past 100+ years.

 

[4Jacy]

Have you ever been to Burma/Myamar? It's not this conservative little nation with everyone in long clothing shuffling about with their heads down. It's not as different as you might imagine.

RZ didn't typically wear modest clothing so I don't think it's fair to judge her by Christian Chin standards unless that's what her family is hoping we'll do, because her lifestyle didn't pass the muster.

Now I'll tell you what was interesting (and disturbing). In the comment section of an article I read, someone who identified him or herself from Burma wrote things to the effect that Rebecca had to "pay" because she lived an immoral lifestyle. The person listed some things that were considered immoral, including the fact that she married a white man (her first husband). The person said it was a "sin" for a Chin to marry a white person and that's why RZ had to pay. So if RZ was murdered (and I don't think she was, but I very well could be wrong), I would wonder if someone from her former country did it to exact judgement for her immoral lifestyle (not my words).

IMO

Please, get real. We, are all sinners, even though we try not to be. Why is all this bad press about Rebecca? She was just trying to lead her life. I can't judge her, can you? God said, "Let them not judge, for I am the judge of all mankind." Sums is up for me!!