Searches for Lisa

[natsound]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...o-search-well-found-by-psychic-baby-lisa-case

Forgive me if this has been posted, but at the time of my writing, i have not seen it on here yet. I found a few links about this, this seemed to have the most information, regarding the discovered well, or a type of water hole.

The "psychic" that may or may not be envisioning this particular site, stated that there was some type of hole that she was seeing the baby in. I hate writing that. Anyway, the websleuths poster who dreamt about the disappearance of the baby, long ago now, early October she posted, mentioned bricks. And something under a table.

I had a dream about a ring and a worm. Literally. A few days later i noticed a ring on my arm. We had just adopted a new dog. I didn't know what it was until someone told me I had ringworm. My dream mind had known this days earlier, but i didn't know how to interpret it. Perhaps the "table" in the dream was not literal and was speaking of a water table.

Look, I know that psychic dreams and visions are not accepted by many, and I fully respect that. I have stated before that you can't count on any of these things, because they are often misleading, you can never know why you are receiving thoughts, visions, dreams, but i thought of the bricks and this well and the texas psychic's water hole, and the fact that they already searched a well early on, i believe based on a "tip", maybe from another psychic.... who may have seen a well.

This is the search thread, not a psychic thread, but hey, if we are to believe the reports, a psychic is going to lead LE to search this well. It's at least keeping the search alive.

Has a map of the area been posted, particularly the proximity to the early morning baby sighting by motorcycle man? Or to the white blob? Neither of which I am convinced is anything, but just out of curiosity.

And again forgive my stupidity but where did the search of the old casino thread go? It was moved.... where?

I've had dreams before that turned into something real. I'm sure everyone has at some point. But psychics are hogwash and it's insulting that this woman inserted herself into this case. Someone else has posted that a psychic has never helped find a missing child.

No more psychics! Please!

 

[Oriah]

But the map that was posted was in 64129. Not 64117. You are looking at the correct one. And there is NO 3652 N White 64117.

Peeps- this is where I think coordinates are useful.
I think the area in question is 39.09.18.13N/ 94.30.50.14W.
It's a track (and property) off of 210 and Searcy, just N of NE Birmingham. Searcy crosses 35 aways north. The river is just due south of that property.

Locals, please correct if I've got this wrong- or am explaining wrong.

 

[In da Middle]

Has anyone searched around 3652 White ave? Here is a map of the area my link. I wish more people would go looking for her, I know they say it might destroy potential evidence but at this point if someone doesn't find her soon it may just turn out to be like poor Caylee where only her bones were found and they couldn't 100% say a cause of death.

This is the post where the WRONG area is being used. This is 64129. The link specifically has this wrong area.

Peeps- this is where I think coordinates are useful.
I think the area in question is 39.09.18.13N/ 94.30.50.14W.
It's a track (and property) off of 210 and Searcy, just N of NE Birmingham. Crosses 35 aways north. The river is just due south of that property.

Locals, please correct if I've got this wrong.

This is the correct area. except when I plug it in to Google it takes me to Mexico!:floorlaugh:
3500 N White is the ONLY N White address in this area. No others in the 3000-3999 block of N White at all.

 

[Oriah]

This is the post where the WRONG area is being used. This is 64129. The link specifically has this wrong area.

This is the correct area. except when I plug it in to Google it takes me to Mexico!:floorlaugh:
3500 N White is the ONLY N White address in this area. No others in the 3000-3999 block of N White at all.

Ah, Mexico. I usually send people to Uzbekistan or Thailand or New South Wales or something.

Try this:
N from Drury, take a right on Independence (never a good idea, it appears) left toward E 31st, to Stadium, to N White. Is that correct?
Are we having fun yet?! kay:

 

[Minette]

Oriah, :floorlaugh:

It makes me furious that people like this 'psychic' insert themselves into a missing child investigation and prey on the family. They also exploit the good hearts and giving natures of concerned citizens who only want to help. There are two types of scammers in the world: those who exploit greed, and those who exploit the heart-broken. The second kind is far, far worse, IMO. And yet, with every tragedy comes people who want to use it for their own personal gain. It happened after 9/11 with scammers setting up fake charities to collect money for the victims, and it will continue to happen whenever a child goes missing. Disgusting, IMO.

:furious:

 

[In da Middle]

Ah, Mexico. I usually send people to Uzbekistan or Thailand or New South Wales or something.

Try this:
N from Drury, take a right on Independence (never a good idea, it appears) left toward E 31st, to Stadium, to N White. Is that correct?
Are we having fun yet?! kay:

Nope. N Drury does not go near E 31st. Stadium and Independence are on the wrong side of town.
N Drury would be near NE 31st if there was such a road. There is no Stadium Dr on this side of town at all. NE 31st in this area would put in the middle of the traintracks or in the river itself. ALL of the streets in this part of town are designated with a N or NE. N for the n/s streets and NE for the numbered e/w streets for the most part. Kansas City is set up in quadrants for the most part. The numbered streets with NE are North of what would be 1st street and east of Main St. The numbered streets with just the E designation would be south of 1st street and east of Main St. and so on.

We are in the NE quadrant of 1st and Main up here.

 

[In da Middle]

Peeps- this is where I think coordinates are useful.
I think the area in question is 39.09.18.13N/ 94.30.50.14W.
It's a track (and property) off of 210 and Searcy, just N of NE Birmingham. Searcy crosses 35 aways north. The river is just due south of that property.

Locals, please correct if I've got this wrong- or am explaining wrong.

The bolded area is the correct description of this area if talking about the 3500 N White address.

 

[Oriah]

Nope. N Drury does not go near E 31st. Stadium and Independence are on the wrong side of town.
N Drury would be near NE 31st if there was such a road. There is no Stadium Dr on this side of town at all. NE 31st in this area would put in the middle of the traintracks or in the river itself. ALL of the streets in this part of town are designated with a N or NE. N for the n/s streets and NE for the numbered e/w streets for the most part. Kansas City is set up in quadrants for the most part. The numbered streets with NE are North of what would be 1st street and east of Main St. The numbered streets with just the E designation would be south of 1st street and east of Main St. and so on.

We are in the NE quadrant of 1st and Main up here.

Lol, omg see this is what happens when I deviate from quads and try to translate using google. :floorlaugh:

(Oriah, climbing back under mapping program rock. Truly- Oriah does know where this location is... Oriah swears. It is google who is lost.)

 

[In da Middle]

Lol, omg see this is what happens when I deviate from quads and try to translate using google. :floorlaugh:

(Oriah, climbing back under mapping program rock. Truly- Oriah does know where this location is... Oriah swears. It is google who is lost.)

Google has been lost many times! Sometimes when you put in the correct address it takes you to the wrong address I have found. Word to the wise - do not rely on Google if in an emergency situation. At least check with other sources also.
And yes you really dont want to be lost in THAT other part of town.

 

[highflyer]

Pretty sure Stroud's still does not have take out. Here's website. Check it out mmmmmm Great place to eat.
http://www.stroudsrestaurant.com/north.html

Yes, they have carry out.

 

[In da Middle]

Yes, they have carry out.

Carry out is only when available. Not a guarantee to be available at any given time depending upon kitchen busyness. Sometimes when carryout is available, you still have to wait a looooong time to be able to pick it up. Seated guests have first priority. As it should be.
And you have to have working phones to call it in to start with. It's kind of pricy also if you cant afford to pay your phone bill, especially when Church's chicken and Popeye's are closer and so much cheaper.

 

[indepmo]

Google has been lost many times! Sometimes when you put in the correct address it takes you to the wrong address I have found. Word to the wise - do not rely on Google if in an emergency situation. At least check with other sources also.
And yes you really dont want to be lost in THAT other part of town.

What's wrong with that part of town?
They have better deals around there than any of the black friday or cyber monday sales I've seen advertised!
:great:

 

[In da Middle]

What's wrong with that part of town?
They have better deals around there than any of the black friday or cyber monday sales I've seen advertised!
:great:

Yeah, just dont get caught in possession of those 'deals'! Ya might just have some 'splainin to do!

 

[indepmo]

Yeah, just dont get caught in possession of those 'deals'! Ya might just have some 'splainin to do!

I know, right?
And the return policy stinks!

 

[In da Middle]

I know, right?
And the return policy stinks!

And be sure you still have any other possessions you came with! You might be missing a few items and they might become somebody else's good deal!

 

[highflyer]

Carry out is only when available. Not a guarantee to be available at any given time depending upon kitchen busyness. Sometimes when carryout is available, you still have to wait a looooong time to be able to pick it up. Seated guests have first priority. As it should be.
And you have to have working phones to call it in to start with. It's kind of pricy also if you cant afford to pay your phone bill, especially when Church's chicken and Popeye's are closer and so much cheaper.

Would imagine that if you happened to know someone like a neighbor,who worked there you might be able to get carryout anytime you wanted and not have to wait long.

 

[In da Middle]

Would imagine that if you happened to know someone like a neighbor,who worked there you might be able to get carryout anytime you wanted and not have to wait long.

But you would still have to have a phone to call it in and pay for it. It's not a cheap place. Especially when you can just drive right up to one of the other places and get a family meal much, much cheaper. I think they searched Stroud's because the male teen that supposedly said that Jersey did it for $300 works there as a dishwasher. I think LE has more to his story than he is letting on to reporters or at least ruling it out. I don't in any way think they went to Stroud's for the chicken dinner she is said to FIX that night.

Did you look at the prices in the link I provided upsteam? ONE 3 pc dinner is like $15. You can get a 20 pc dinner w/sides at Church's for about that.

 

[highflyer]

But you would still have to have a phone to call it in and pay for it. It's not a cheap place. Especially when you can just drive right up to one of the other places and get a family meal much, much cheaper. I think they searched Stroud's because the male teen that supposedly said that Jersey did it for $300 works there as a dishwasher. I think LE has more to his story than he is letting on to reporters or at least ruling it out. I don't in any way think they went to Stroud's for the chicken dinner she is said to FIX that night.

Did you look at the prices in the link I provided upsteam? ONE 3 pc dinner is like $15. You can get a 20 pc dinner w/sides at Church's for about that.

Financially the fast food restaurant makes more sense unless they had come into some money. DB had said she fixed dinner but haven't been too keen on her honesty so am not sure. Do believe the restaurant area was searched because of teen and Jersey story too.

 

[indepmo]

I still feel the most important key to performing a search falls back on the cell phone pings.

Iif we knew the exact ping radius with times, that would help.
If we knew if the phones were restricted or not, that would help.
If we knew the timeline of cellular activity, that would help.

I still cannot rely on the information about the ping time/distance or the cellular activity timeline because the source of the information came from was the attorneys of JI & DB who have already been caught in at lease one lie about the teenager telling them Jersey said he did blah blah blah for 300 bucks. That moment without a doubt made me disregard any statements they previously released, as well as future statements made by them because the teen told the media he "could see Jersey saying something like that". A lot of people in the neighborhood looked at Jersey like that, and apparently knew he was capable of commiting a crime.


I'm sure others here have already done a radius map on the pings (1/3 - 1/5 mile) but I made one just incase it had not been covered.
The yellow area goes out 1/3 of a mile, and the inner orange area is 1/5 of a mile. I don't even feel comfortable about considering this information as being accurate because of the source, but I made one up anyway.

The other thing that would really really really be helpful would be to hear from a "ping expert" who could answer some vital questions about pinging. I was really hoping that WS radio & company would surprise us with someone who could talk about pings, not just for this case but for any case where this may fall into play.

I have to sit back now and consider that LE knows so much more about this case than we do, and they arent going to dispute any of the information JI & DB's attorneys have released because this is an ongoing investigation, nor are they going to release anything else to us.

It's getting cold... It's getting cold...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/13mile15mileping.jpg/

 

[In da Middle]

I still feel the most important key to performing a search falls back on the cell phone pings.

Iif we knew the exact ping radius with times, that would help.
If we knew if the phones were restricted or not, that would help.
If we knew the timeline of cellular activity, that would help.

I still cannot rely on the information about the ping time/distance or the cellular activity timeline because the source of the information came from was the attorneys of JI & DB who have already been caught in at lease one lie about the teenager telling them Jersey said he did blah blah blah for 300 bucks. That moment without a doubt made me disregard any statements they previously released, as well as future statements made by them because the teen told the media he "could see Jersey saying something like that". A lot of people in the neighborhood looked at Jersey like that, and apparently knew he was capable of commiting a crime.


I'm sure others here have already done a radius map on the pings (1/3 - 1/5 mile) but I made one just incase it had not been covered.
The yellow area goes out 1/3 of a mile, and the inner orange area is 1/5 of a mile. I don't even feel comfortable about considering this information as being accurate because of the source, but I made one up anyway.

The other thing that would really really really be helpful would be to hear from a "ping expert" who could answer some vital questions about pinging. I was really hoping that WS radio & company would surprise us with someone who could talk about pings, not just for this case but for any case where this may fall into play.

I have to sit back now and consider that LE knows so much more about this case than we do, and they arent going to dispute any of the information JI & DB's attorneys have released because this is an ongoing investigation, nor are they going to release anything else to us.

It's getting cold... It's getting cold...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/13mile15mileping.jpg/

How do we know that they lied about this? LE must have been somewhat concerned about this teen's story as they searched his workplace at least 2x. That says they must have had more thoughts about this than it being a simple teenage lie. How do we know that the teen didn't lie to the reporter?