Sen. Ted Kennedy has Brain Tumor UPDATE PASSED AWAY

[elfie]

Ted had a prolonged seizure during the inaugural lunch today-he was finally speaking to family later on in the after noon...not good....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/20/inauguration.kennedy.collapse/index.html

I saw this in the news. It's so sad to happen on such an important day, that his family helped pave the way for. Hope he makes a full recovery.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I was just reading the past posts as well as the updates from today. FWIW, considering some of the past posts, in my very humble yet strong opinion, no one deserves such a thing. My late Mother had brain tumors that metastasized from malignant melanoma. It is not "Karma". I realise my response is from old posts made late Spring of 2008, but I want to share no one or any persons family should have to experience what this costs them. It's horrible and painful for every person who has a beloved to witness or go through. Have anyone of you, who believe in such "Karma" gone through this with their own??? I did. My Mother did. Sorry, but those past comments just piss me off. Rant over....

I wish strength for him as well as his family. This is not good news for this man.

 

[TaylorJ4]

I watched my father die at age 54 of this same type of cancer. It was horrible.

 

[concernedperson]

I was just reading the past posts as well as the updates from today. FWIW, considering some of the past posts, in my very humble yet strong opinion, no one deserves such a thing. My late Mother had brain tumors that metastasized from malignant melanoma. It is not "Karma". I realise my response is from old posts made late Spring of 2008, but I want to share no one or any persons family should have to experience what this costs them. It's horrible and painful for every person who has a beloved to witness or go through. Have anyone of you, who believe in such "Karma" gone through this with their own??? I did. My Mother did. Sorry, but those past comments just piss me off. Rant over....

I wish strength for him as well as his family. This is not good news for this man.

I want to hug you. The "only if you have walked in my shoes" is the best comment on many situations. Cancer is not karma. Nor is cancer guilt for other errors.

It is not good news for Sen. Kennedy nor his family or friends.

Something President Obama said in his speech today will stay will me. Unclinch your fists and accept a loving/helping hand. That is paraphrased but I know its full text will be available tomorrow. I see that clinched fist as an obstacle in many situations where releasing it and understanding more would make the distance among odds much shorter.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I watched my father die at age 54 of this same type of cancer. It was horrible.

(((Hugs))) My mother was shy of 51. It is a fast and relentless cancer. I am so very sorry that your father and your family had to go through it. I can only share more of these. (((Hugs)))

 

[JaneInOz]

OMG

OMG

I don't know what to say

My Mother Died from Ovarian Cancer with Secondary Brain Tumors

It is MOST definitely NOT KARMA - I am in total agreeance with OL

My Mother shrivelled before my eyes, and said the most UNSPEAKABLE Things BECAUSE of those Brain Tumors that ate away her beautiful self.

I am beyond upset BEYOND IT

I wish Ted Kennedy the most easiest journey out of this life into the next and as quickly as possible so that he and his family do not have to suffer

I do believe the Kennedy's were cursed.

And I do not believe that they brought things on themselves

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I want to hug you. The "only if you have walked in my shoes" is the best comment on many situations. Cancer is not karma. Nor is cancer guilt for other errors.

It is not good news for Sen. Kennedy nor his family or friends.

Something President Obama said in his speech today will stay will me. Unclinch your fists and accept a loving/helping hand. That is paraphrased but I know its full text will be available tomorrow. I see that clinched fist as an obstacle in many situations where releasing it and understanding more would make the distance among odds much shorter.

There is *no* Karma when it comes to a terminal illness. Anyone who believes there is and even goes so far as to celebrate it needs some serious therapy or, at the very least, spend time on a cancer ward.

Heart wrenching.

 

[JaneInOz]

Something President Obama said in his speech today will stay will me. Unclinch your fists and accept a loving/helping hand. That is paraphrased but I know its full text will be available tomorrow. I see that clinched fist as an obstacle in many situations where releasing it and understanding more would make the distance among odds much shorter.

This man is destined to BE Great, to DO Great... I only hope and pray he is given the chance...

He reminds me of many GREAT men who have gone before him, assassinated for having the same outlook

 

[concernedperson]

There is *no* Karma when it comes to a terminal illness. Anyone who believes there is and even goes so far as to celebrate it needs some serious therapy or, at the very least, spend time on a cancer ward.

Heart wrenching.

ITA, I think spending time on a cancer ward would do it. Not a 15 minutes to fame but spend some hours, watch a few children die, watch a young mother lose her battle with her children around her, watch a mother hold her child no matter how old for the last time, see children of every age look at their mom while she dies or dad or sister or brother or aunt or uncle or grandparent or niece or nephew or cousin or great friend or a regular friend or business partner or coworker or just someone you admired.It touches all of us if you have ever had the experience and it stays with you the rest of your life.

This is the part of President Obama's speech that is staying with me:

To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect. To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society's ills on the West — know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy. To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history; but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.

 

[believe09]

To you lovely people who have suffered or seen someone suffer through cancer-hugs. No it is not Karma.

I thought this was the thread that had a hot, hot debate on it regarding the Senator and whether or not he "deserved" the disease because of Chappaquiddick. Whoo, baby- there was a war of words on that one...

I am glad it is not-I love that CP quoted President Obama regarding the clenched fist. What is so threatening about an outstretched hand and a little compassion?

I hope you sleep well tonight, Teddy-I hope you heal some and stick around a while longer. We need you. :blowkiss:

 

[concernedperson]

To you lovely people who have suffered or seen someone suffer through cancer-hugs. No it is not Karma.

I thought this was the thread that had a hot, hot debate on it regarding the Senator and whether or not he "deserved" the disease because of Chappaquiddick. Whoo, baby- there was a war of words on that one...

I am glad it is not-I love that CP quoted President Obama regarding the clenched fist. What is so threatening about an outstretched hand and a little compassion?

I hope you sleep well tonight, Teddy-I hope you heal some and stick around a while longer. We need you. :blowkiss:

I agree baby cakes.We are going to work harder to make it about what we have to do as a country. We are also going to work harder to understand about disease and how it effects everyone. The Kennedy legacy is about change and no one blast me as I am older and know and you don't. How's that? Seriously, change is good and not to be feared as only when there is change do we rise to challenge. Status quo got us into this miasma...bypass that and we are good to go.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

To you lovely people who have suffered or seen someone suffer through cancer-hugs. No it is not Karma.

I thought this was the thread that had a hot, hot debate on it regarding the Senator and whether or not he "deserved" the disease because of Chappaquiddick. Whoo, baby- there was a war of words on that one...

I am glad it is not-I love that CP quoted President Obama regarding the clenched fist. What is so threatening about an outstretched hand and a little compassion?

I hope you sleep well tonight, Teddy-I hope you heal some and stick around a while longer. We need you. :blowkiss:

I can imagine few things more terrifying than being left to die in a submerged car. There is evidence, including the position of her body, that suggests Mary Jo was alive when Teddy chose to run away and take a nap. To me, that pretty much defines who he is. However, I don't in any way think cancer is karma...OMG that is terrible.

IMO

 

[JaneInOz]

To you lovely people who have suffered or seen someone suffer through cancer-hugs. No it is not Karma.

I thought this was the thread that had a hot, hot debate on it regarding the Senator and whether or not he "deserved" the disease because of Chappaquiddick. Whoo, baby- there was a war of words on that one...

I am glad it is not-I love that CP quoted President Obama regarding the clenched fist. What is so threatening about an outstretched hand and a little compassion?

I hope you sleep well tonight, Teddy-I hope you heal some and stick around a while longer. We need you. :blowkiss:

For some who do not know about the chappaquiddick incident (geeze what a name) here is a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

Is that a fair account of what happened ?

Anyway I didn't know about it - well not in that detail so looked it up.

He still doesn't deserve Cancer. And He was probably Drunk and Tired and the affects of submerging in a car probably increased that, if he went up and down 7 times like he said and was drunk goodness knows how that affected his state of mind at the time.

Those days were not like these days, with regards to drinking and driving.

The above article is rather tame to this one http://www.ytedk.com/

 

[eve]

I can imagine few things more terrifying than being left to die in a submerged car. There is evidence, including the position of her body, that suggests Mary Jo was alive when Teddy chose to run away and take a nap. To me, that pretty much defines who he is. However, I don't in any way think cancer is karma...OMG that is terrible.

IMO

Cancer is not karma. Suffering is a part of life for all of us at some time or another, and it often seems the people who suffer the most are so good. I do not wish this on him or on anyone. He has done many good things, I am sure.

I hope that he has made peace and received forgiveness for what he did at Chappaquiddick, which was wrong wrong wrong and very cowardly, drunk or not. At some point he was no longer that drunk, he found his way back to his motel and slept til morning. He very simply didn't do the right thing, and he was able to avoid the consequences due to his family's power and position -also wrong wrong wrong. They paid off MaryJo's family and covered the whole thing up. There was never any stepping up to the plate by Ted. His family and handlers saw to that. A young woman lost her life and probably could have been saved.

He was a product of his family's "ethics," expectations and the culture at the time. Not entirely his fault, the pressure his family probably brought to bear on him to avoid the consequences was no doubt tremendous. He went along with it and he has had to live with that.

I hope when he dies he dies in peace.

Eve

 

[Blackwatch]

IIRC Ms Kopechne was said to be pregnant when she died, and I am old enough to remember this very well. It seems history is being re-written as I see no reference to this in either of the articles. Odd.

I wish Ted no ill, nor any good. What is is.

My opinion only

 

[eve]

IIRC Ms Kopechne was said to be pregnant when she died, and I am old enough to remember this very well. It seems history is being re-written as I see no reference to this in either of the articles. Odd.

I wish Ted no ill, nor any good. What is is.

My opinion only

If she was, I'm sure it was covered up. I remember the rumor too. I remember the whole thing very well.

I think all around him were as culpable as Ted was at the time. They were determined he wouldn't pay for it, but we don't know that internally, he hasn't to some extent. I am sure he has his own private hell over it. It is part of who he is, absolutely.

People who say the cancer is karma are reacting to the injustice that occurred. I personally do not believe that death and disease relate to a person's good or bad acts. That wouldn't make sense, spritually or otherwise, imo.

Eve

 

[believe09]

IIRC Ms Kopechne was said to be pregnant when she died, and I am old enough to remember this very well. It seems history is being re-written as I see no reference to this in either of the articles. Odd.

I wish Ted no ill, nor any good. What is is.

My opinion only

I do not recall ever reading that she was pregnant, even in the books I have read about the incident....hmmm...I know that Joan was pregnant. This is the reason Kennedy gave for her staying home from the party.

As a member of society, IMO Teddy's years of public service have paid back the debt he owes to us for a life lost. I would never, ever expect the Kopechne's to believe that anything is the equivalent of losing their family member.

 

[concernedperson]

Another sad case of what can happen when someone has a brain tumor. Such a young man, this is so sorrowful.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/s...ons_dronett.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

 

[capps]

I just read that Caroline Kennedy is no longer considering taking Hilary Clintons' senate seat,because of her uncle Ted Kennedys' failing health.

 

[OkGrace]

From someone who has watched someone, day in and day out, battle brain tumors I want to assure you it is one of the most horrid things you will ever witness.
My super smart Dad, who did everything for us, battled this horiffic disease for over 18 months. His body was lost to him and his mind was partially lost.
I thank God every day that we were able to keep him with us at home where we could provide him with some sort of dignity as he lay basically paralyzed and dying. We prayed,laughed, cried, sang and did the best we could, it was all we could do during the last year.
He questioned God, and we questioned God.

One day he was fine that night he started having siezures, it is a huge kick in the gut over and over and over again.

May Mr. Kennedy have the peace we found during this horrible battle.
God love him.......