Quote Originally Posted by pocketaccent
If they had sex on June 4th, JA raped Travis IMO. He didn't want her there and he was scared. Female-male rape is different from male-female rape. Rape doesn't have to be violent and yes photos can be taken during and yes the man can be aroused. JMO.
Agreed. Women can be aroused during rape as well.
I apologize for length of this post, hope some of you stick with it, feel free to make your own call.
Thank you, I have been saying this for a while.. I'm sorry, but Cruella could not have disguised her psychosis when she killed him, Travis knew from the moment she barged in there. As much as he cajoled her, he wasn't totally cognitively unaware. He was mislead and naive. Which is how she suckered him in. He didn't value her presence there, for the sake of sex or anything else. He mentioned a date with some 19 year old from his church - that he was looking forward to - post Lisa convo. I think his mind started to process the shock of seeing her there as soon as she arrived though. Those ‘murder photo momentos’ say much (and perhaps she meant to keep them or transfer them). She can't 'erradicate' her movements when there is that much mental or nervous/excited energy pumping through her veins. I think it's quite obvious her body language was highly predatory and erratic that day - more than usual - full psychosis. There is just so much neurological activity that you can control when your mind is that disturbed. She is not a master of disguise. She is a psychopath; they DO feel a rush, to get to that expected moment. And she premeditated for quite some time.
Having a rape victim’s dating history brought up is one of those inappropriate manifestations during ‘an accusation.’ Anything can be brought up to insinuate dishonesty or paint them the '




' - for simply
having a dating history (perhaps even maintaining some form of agreeable contact between both parties). I understand we don't have much of a basis for how to perceive rape victims (until very recently – rape culture on campus being the best example from young women), let alone male rape survivors. I mean, it’s not like anyone’s ever encouraged to discuss ‘their rape’ at these institutions. Their job is to keep the money coming. Athletes, donors applicants, etc etc, these people expect a level of discretion. As for men, the most publicized case we’ve ever had was to the Catholic church and the male victims who spoke out about it years later.
Anyway, many of the survivors will tell you, the only reason they didn’t end up (strangled? choked? unconscious? dead?) is because they felt their body had to ‘comply’ - to avoid the apparent violence of their rapist(s).
75% of all rapes are either date or ‘acquaintance-rape.’ These people
know what’s going on, at best the primal violence has an effect. Silence or going along with it buys them time, their body possibly staying in a piece, etc. etc. Your survival instincts
do kick in with adrenaline. They get what they want, their rage will subside, and then they’ll leave you alone. That is
not always true. That’s just how the mind responds to the trauma.
I don't know why Travis didn't call the police as soon as he saw her. Perhaps he was hoping 'she would go away.' Or perhaps he wasn't 100% sure she wouldn't just sneak up on him one day and kill him anyway, or someone he loved. His house wasn't secure; he had the blasted doggy door, etc.
I don't care if the guy enjoyed sex. Or hated himself for having sex, with her or anyone else. I see a guy in those photos that realizes he has to go along to avoid something wicked. I think he knew, he wasn’t the type of person to get caught up in a shouting match. He took the time to absorb his environment, he just never counteracted with that awareness. He’s the type of ‘victim,’ that was expecting for her to leave him alone after her ‘excitement’ abated. Either way, I see duress in those photos.
Side note:
Psychologically, I don't think male rape is all that different from female rape at all.. Women feel just as discomforted discussing this topic and emotionally scar/suppress just as the men do (again, rape culture opened up the conversation a bit more recently). But you will notice one thing, that still has changed very little nationwide for them. There is a lot of self-defeat that comes with this territory. This has nothing to do with gender at all. I’ve never met a young woman feel anything less than frightened and/or demoralized for being able to confide in me that someone violated her mind. At least the once, I was told she was date-raped twice. Once for breaking up with one guy, the second because she felt "she was too good for him." Children have that adverse emotional response as well, perhaps it's even worse as they are still wiring. There is some lifetime PTSD, regardless of whether or not it was systemic, I think we know the research out there for this says as much. A rape victim's ability to move forward simply depends on the individual. It is HIGHLY under-reported by women anyhow, we do NOT have proper statistics or stories to judge from. Police precincts will also underreport. Either way women will say all the same, they feel shame (one of the components involved is often self-guilt - especially in certain cultures).