Sentencing and beyond- Jodi Arias General Discussion #2

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  • #781
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:


The Special Investigations Section (SIS) provides investigative support to law enforcement and consumer protection services of the Attorney General's Office, as well as to law enforcement agencies across the State of Arizona. SIS provides expertise in specialized areas of law covered under the Attorney General's statutory criminal jurisdiction, which is not usually available at other law enforcement agencies, including vulnerable adult abuse, consumer fraud, drug trafficking, human smuggling, environmental crimes, medical fraud, money laundering, white collar crimes, political corruption, youth tobacco enforcement, antitrust, high technology crimes and foreign prosecution of defendants who have fled to Mexico.

Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation
 
  • #782
Aww hell no, the scammers are at it again. :gaah::jail:




"The appeals fund still needs about $160,000 more to reach its goal of $250,000. These funds will be used to retain a private attorney. If Jodi’s two state-paid appeals are unsuccessful, she will be unable to appeal further in Arizona, let alone in Federal court, without a private attorney. If a private attorney’s retainer is not raised in time, Jodi’s case will be over forever. Thus, more funds are needed urgently.

The next matching-gift drive is being planned. Any large donors who would like to be part of the next match pledge should contact the fund trustee."

OCTOBER 29TH, 2015 – UPDATE:
A new matching-gift campaign will begin sometime next year.
Until then, donations are still needed and being accepted.
 
  • #783
a) JA wanted to make it seem that Deanna is as sex-focused as she is, despite how Deanna appeared on the stand.
b) JA wanted to make it seem as though her imaginary knight in armor would have been thrilled to jump to her rescue with an extra set of 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, proof of his undying dedication to her.
c) JA wanted to convey how buddy-buddy her relationship with Skye was and that this was evidence of her (JA's) good will and BFF-edness. JA can't imagine that connectedness would be reflected in anything other than sexual body parts.

Thanks Rickshaw Fan, That pretty much sums up her psycho personality. Poor Deanna
 
  • #784
The May text....


She well deserved every single word and accusation (all true) he lobbed at her. IMO, though, the sheer volume and intensity of his rage was partially a result of keeping it bottled up for so long, and not all of it was directed at her. He says so himself in the text.

He said he felt destroyed from the inside out, by her, and that she had deliberately tried to destroy him out of hatred, but he also accepts partial responsibility for "allowing" her to do so, attributing it to his own weakness.

He tells her -fine, destroy me, we'll destroy each other, I surrender, let us just be truthful about what we're doing. She even tells HIM, not vice versa, that he should move on (yes, a manipulation. she was toying with him throughout).

My two points about the text- there wasn't enough time between the text and his murder for any gradual or additional evolution of his thoughts or feelings towards her. He had just days left.

Second, when he read the text to Taylor, his BF with whom he had many guy-to-guy conversations about GF's and dumping them etc, Taylor's first response to TA was- whoa, man, that's harsh.

I think I'll wait to see all of TA's texts for May and June before I make up my mind for the (maybe) last time about whether or not TA would have responded to her guilt tripping him about stopping by, or to any other strategy she had to get him to open the door.

And about what did or did not come next. What I'll say now though is that TA absolutely did get intimate with her immediately following the slashing of his tires, even while he was telling others that he thought she was responsible, and even those folks were rightfully telling TA she was a psycho.

Hope4More have you thought about the window with the missing screen that was found on the ground? She could have come thru that window or left thru it. Also I just re- watched the interview with Troy Hayden after the verdict and was angry all over again when she said she felt betrayed by the jury's verdict because they didn't see things for what they were. In other words she is pissed because they didn't fall for her LIES. She also said she hoped the Alexanders' would be able to remember Travis the way they wanted to. Sickening just Sickening
 
  • #785
I'm in the camp of willful ignorance and money talks. I don't buy that she truly believes the tripe coming out of her mouth. She needs to pretend she believes it for her agenda.

I don't believe anything that awful woman says. She really got out of line with Juan and even the judge called her out on it. She is still bad mouthing Juan in her so called seminars. I dis liked that woman almost as much as I dislike Nurmi.
 
  • #786
Aww hell no, the scammers are at it again. :gaah::jail:




"The appeals fund still needs about $160,000 more to reach its goal of $250,000. These funds will be used to retain a private attorney. If Jodi’s two state-paid appeals are unsuccessful, she will be unable to appeal further in Arizona, let alone in Federal court, without a private attorney. If a private attorney’s retainer is not raised in time, Jodi’s case will be over forever. Thus, more funds are needed urgently.

The next matching-gift drive is being planned. Any large donors who would like to be part of the next match pledge should contact the fund trustee."

OCTOBER 29TH, 2015 – UPDATE:
A new matching-gift campaign will begin sometime next year.
Until then, donations are still needed and being accepted.


TWO state appeals paid for? Dream on. There's one. But it is interesting they are pushing for donations again right now.
 
  • #787
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:




Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation


Really, really interesting. Thanks for finding this.
 
  • #788
I'm in the camp of willful ignorance and money talks. I don't buy that she truly believes the tripe coming out of her mouth. She needs to pretend she believes it for her agenda.


How awesome to find folks even more cynical than I am...:D
 
  • #789
Does anyone know if the new motion could have something to do with this article? I wonder if any of those pics could be traced back to either Mesa or even DB's son..

http://linkis.com/mynewsla.com/hollywo/Z7zl2

"‘Dirty Little Secret’ director has own dirty secret? Child-🤬🤬🤬🤬 arrest"
 
  • #790
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:




Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation



Whatever it is, the states motion was granted for good cause.



10/27/2015 8:00 AM

STATE OF ARIZONA
PAUL WILLIAM AHLER

V.

JODI ANN ARIAS (001)
MARGARET M GREEN
APPEALS-CCC
CAPITAL CASE MANAGER


MINUTE ENTRY:

This Court has received an ex parte motion from the State of Arizona counsel filed under seal. Good cause appearing, this Court granted the State’s motion.
 
  • #791
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:




Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation


BK has posted the mysterious motion by the State to unseal whatever (?) records, unrelated to her appeal.

What's really interesting is that the killer's attys were excluded altogether from the motion and claim they don't even know what it is about.

They're protesting on several grounds, including that the court order was to seal records and to have them opened solely for the appellate process.

Why is nothing ever straightforward with her case???!
 
  • #792
Hopefully some of those "out of the country" scammers are under Paul Ahler's watchful eye, or uh oh... maybe it's that one dude who lied about Travis confessing to him about being a pedo (can't recall his name right now). Nah, I am just having a "wishful thinking moment." Damn to be a fly on the wall of the court sealings. :happydance:
 
  • #793
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:




Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation


Indeed. But since counsel for the killer was excluded, and the sealed docs were from the trial itself, thinking this most likely is about MDL or a court employee.
 
  • #794
Does anyone know if the new motion could have something to do with this article? I wonder if any of those pics could be traced back to either Mesa or even DB's son..

http://linkis.com/mynewsla.com/hollywo/Z7zl2

"‘Dirty Little Secret’ director has own dirty secret? Child-🤬🤬🤬🤬 arrest"

Really doubt it why would the court care about a fiction film?
 
  • #795
BK has posted the mysterious motion by the State to unseal whatever (?) records, unrelated to her appeal.

What's really interesting is that the killer's attys were excluded altogether from the motion and claim they don't even know what it is about.

They're protesting on several grounds, including that the court order was to seal records and to have them opened solely for the appellate process.

Why is nothing ever straightforward with her case???!

Just a guess but thinking it has nothing to do with her appeal but maybe charges to be filed by someone involved in the trial. Lots of accusations on the computer that turned out to be false?
Juror #17 not fully disclosing her knowledge of the trial?
and many more
 
  • #796
Can't find the comment again to quote it, but Hope4More (I think) mentioned the newest motion re: sealed documents. The AG's office attorney that req'd the record be unsealed says this particular record didn't have to do with JA appeal issues, which made me curious. The attorney is the AG's Fraud & Special Investigation Section's Chief Counsel. Special Investigations is described as:




Someone in addition to JA and connected to this case is in trouble...sad that there are so many that could be the target of this kind of investigation

It seems that it's not just AZ SIS, but their chief counsel. That's a significant resource. Any way we could find out who they're investigating? Maybe the perpetrators of the trust fund scheme? MDLR? Something or other across state lines? I'm willing to bet money laundering is involved and fraud regarding solicitation of funds.
 
  • #797
TWO state appeals paid for? Dream on. There's one. But it is interesting they are pushing for donations again right now.

Do the indigent attorneys cover the line of appeal that goes through JSS or substitute? I forget what it's called. But it happens after the current line of appeal.

I hope if it comes time for JA to shell out for a private attorney, s/he just runs the bill up without doing the work. That would be delicious.
 
  • #798
Hope4More, isn't PCR also at state expense? Maybe that's one of the two?

Some things that might fall within the scope of that AG Section deal with either 1)the donated money being set up so that JA can claim indigency, 2)something involving the jury (description specifies jury tampering) or 3)possibly fraud leading up to evidence presented at trial. The first is pretty obvious and a couple court 'officers' could have been involved in that. The second could be juror 17, possibly whoever helped release juror's names or maybe even that episode involving Janet and the jurors. 3rd might be whoever helped her with the pedo letter forgeries, or maybe something to do with procuring the testimony of the New Zealand guy with the help of a couple of her fans. For it to be assigned to this section, I'd think it's serious and someone or several someones should be worried. This could also very possibly deal with something we know nothing at all about - so many secret closed door meetings/motions/ex parte communications, etc.

I'm very unimpressed with her appeal attorneys. To date, the work they seem to be concentrating on is alienating the court. I would think that to take that risk so early in the appeals process you'd want to make sure that it was an important issue and that you were standing on solid legal ground - I just don't see that with anything they've submitted so far. If this issue is, as the AG said, unrelated to JA's appeal, then the COA wouldn't have jurisdiction. Why file a motion with them instead of requesting a meeting with the Superior Court judge & AG's office? The COA seal order was about records being used for the appeal, not for unrelated criminal activity. It's not as if Superior Court doesn't retain authority over their own records outside of the appeal and it's possible the judge verified it was not on the list of records req'd.

All I know is the day that I am no longer interested in the happenings surrounding this case seems a long way off - will we ever get our answers?
 
  • #799
LAV. Expert witness??? NO. Her and others put their names on a list to be called in to testify at $250. plus an hour. Their job is to put their unique spin on WHATEVER. Its meant to deceive and fool. Hired guns. No, she does not believe the carp coming out of her own mouth. Its her job to make the jurors believe. For a price. Shes a man hatting throwback.
 
  • #800
ALV was no match for Juan. So she had her lapdog run to her aid. Pick up where she left off. It did no good. Dont forget. A Texas judge did call him a hired gun when he testified in the Clark case. Family law. I forgot his name. But we know who he is.
 
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