Found Deceased Shanann Watts (34) and daughters Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest*

[Davia18]

Pregnant woman, 2 daughters reported missing in Frederick Not sure if this has been posted, but I didn't hear about the "wellness" check until now.

I feel the friend knows of issues or she wouldn't have been so quick to call the police.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Pregnant woman, 2 daughters reported missing in Frederick Not sure if this has been posted, but I didn't hear about the "wellness" check until now.

From the quoted article, CW says, "...She said she was going to a friend's house with the kids and that’s the last thing I heard, and that was it. It was very vague."
I feel like he's setting up a 'she ran off,' scenario. What's very vague about your wife and kids going to her friends? If I tell my hubby I'm going to a friend's that's really all there is to tell. Vague was a very odd word choice, IMO.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Could that be for the search warrant? The timing would be a out right since they searched the hpuse later that day.

Division C is not family court, so no divorce. It a civil suit with their HOA. Likely unpaid HOA dues.

 

[gitana1]

Could that be for the search warrant? The timing would be a out right since they searched the hpuse later that day.

As people determined already, the other side is the HOA. So it's likely a small claims case regarding non-payment of dues or fines if they were fined for non-compliance with terms of some sort.

Both were supposed to go back to court on a summons which means both were defendants, from what I can tell and not suing each other for divorce.

 

[mountainguy777]

Shannan has a lot of friends and a lot of thrive connections. She would reach out to someone, if she could.

 

[gitana1]

From the quoted article, CW says, "...She said she was going to a friend's house with the kids and that’s the last thing I heard, and that was it. It was very vague."
I feel like he's setting up a 'she ran off,' scenario. What's very vague about your wife and kids going to her friends? If I tell my hubby I'm going to a friend's that's really all there is to tell. Vague was a very odd word choice, IMO.

Like not saying the name of the friend? I mean I always told my spouse who I was going to go see. It's just natural. "I'm going to go meet with Stephanie today for lunch." Rather than "I'm going to meet up with a friend." That would be weird phrasing.

 

[WildcatRunner]

I feel the friend knows of issues or she wouldn't have been so quick to call the police.

I feel the same way. I'm a very dependable person, but if I didn't answer some calls, and also didn't answer my door, my friends would be calling my husband, other friends, and would wait at least a few hours before they'd contact the police. They would probably assume I fell asleep, or accidentally made duplicate plans, and would call them back as soon as I realized my mistake. They wouldn't jump straight to the worst case.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Like not saying the name of the friend? I mean I always told my spouse who I was going to go see. It's just natural. "I'm going to go meet with Stephanie today for lunch." Rather than "I'm going to meet up with a friend." That would be weird phrasing.

Oh, that's a good point. You could be right. Perhaps she didn't name the friend.

 

[HayLouise]

Colorado officials have issued a "missing endangered alert" for Shanann Watts, Celeste and Bella due to the length of time that has passed since the three family members were seen.

NBC News on Twitter

 

[Davia18]

I feel the same way. I'm a very dependable person, but if I didn't answer some calls, and also didn't answer my door, my friends would be calling my husband, other friends, and would wait at least a few hours before they'd contact the police. They would probably assume I fell asleep, or accidentally made duplicate plans, and would call them back as soon as I realized my mistake. They wouldn't jump straight to the worst case.

Exactly - something is up to call the police instantly. I also feel LE knows lots and a arrest should come quickly IMO

 

[Portabella]

One thing I will say is we could all use a friend like her friend, man was she on the ball. Checking the doctors office, calling it in, welfare check. Yup that is one smart cookie there and the world could use more like her....IMHO

 

[gitana1]

Oh, that's a good point. You could be right. Perhaps she didn't name the friend.

Or perhaps someone wants us to think she didn't.

 

[Colorado303]

Could that be for the search warrant? The timing would be a out right since they searched the hpuse later that day.

They searched the house and HOA common groumds so it makes sense both of them amd the HOA would be names if ot was to fet a search warrant. I just don’t know what division of court does those.

 

[WildcatRunner]

They searched the house and HOA common groumds so it makes sense both of them amd the HOA would be names if ot was to fet a search warrant. I just don’t know what division of court does those.

It wouldn't be the HOA vs. SW and CW. And they wouldn't summons a missing person to appear a week from now.

 

[Portabella]

My husband/significant other and I have been together for twenty years. So we give each other a ton of space to be honest, like LOTS of space to do our own things. However, example, early in the week he mentioned he was going to the Beer Garden at a fair this coming Friday night. (I heard him, but no need to comment). Friday night comes I say, call if you want a ride, he was walking there, but I worry about him walking home very late on dark roads. Then I looked at what he was wearing, I said that is not smart, jeans and black shirt, NOPE....a car will not see you. So he goes to his room and changes his shirt. Then my parting words, don't be afraid to call for a ride, and...if you decide to spend the night at a friends, CALL me, or I will be driving looking for you in a ditch by two a.m. And off he went. I knew what friend he was going with, but he is very much a social butterfly, so he can meet other friends and end up on a totally different friends couch. If questioned, I would have NO clue...yes what he was wearing, yes where he told me he was going, but who he ended up with...pfft no idea. Its a total trust thing with us and I have never had a reason not to. But in a case of I am going to Johns house in the morning, I expect him to be at John's house. Does this make sense. He should have known where she was going, and essentially when she was due back. Especially when two precioius babies are involved. I don't care how much freedome you allow each other, you still communicate and have good info. Just my opinion.

 

[Shekkiec]

One thing I will say is we could all use a friend like her friend, man was she on the ball. Checking the doctors office, calling it in, welfare check. Yup that is one smart cookie there and the world could use more like her....IMHO

Just my opinion I’m wondering if perhaps she knew of a emotional conversation that would be taking place since she drove her home that night. She also had made plans to see her the next day immediately concerned . Also my opinion most parents would go to the dr appointment together if it were a gender reveal appointment . This also would not be something a mother would miss

 

[RavenCC2020]

The "her people" stuff was weird too. At the least I think this couple has been having difficulties. Did they decide to divorce? Or separate? Did that trigger either one to do something?

The "her people" quote imo shows his disdain and possible jealousy of the career path she was on. From experience I bet there were tons of phone calls or texts between her and "her people" during the couple's home time. Some men just can't handle playing second fiddle to their wives careers or outside interests. A narcissist especially would find this an intolerable situation.

Yup, and also self-described himself to a reporter as "the calm one."

Ugh, when I heard that I wanted to puke. What troubles me more is when describing his children he described one of them (don't recall which one) as also being calm like himself with an inferred preference for that type of behavior in a child. One he could relate to more then the other. I literally said WTH to myself when I heard that. What kind of dad would speak this way when his young daughter's are missing. It made me think that he HAS thought this out before not necessarily in nefarious way rather if they should ever divorce he may wish to have this daughter come to live with him. Or perhaps if it is nefarious perhaps his desire to save or protect this particular child. It should be interesting to see how this unfolds when and if they are found. If one child survives and one does not or both children survive but mom doesn't, I think it's case closed.

I bet they did not pay their HOA dues, and the HOA is pursuing to place a lien on the property.

Which leads me to the obvious question which is the couple's current financial situation. I've viewed her SM and she is not unlike many young women today. She has her SM life that appears wonderful, beautiful family, nice home, perfect life, but we all know that is never to be assumed to be correct. This is what people wish to share and put across not always what is actually going on. If she is doing so well with her business they may have overextended themselves credit wise. The way she is earning her income is never a "solid income" especially with the product she is selling which has much negative press available to anyone looking for it. These are trend companies that ride the wave and can and usually do fizzle out leaving people with debt they have no way of paying back. I looked at the property valuation and they must have a hefty mortgage on that house.

I feel the friend knows of issues or she wouldn't have been so quick to call the police.

I strongly agree with this. I also believe she would be forthcoming with that information with LE. I have no doubt this couple's life is being scrutinized especially their current financial status. It has been the motive in far too many crimes of "missing persons".

 

[Portabella]

Okay she was gone for six weeks, spent a few days at home then left for Arizona. She was roughly fifteen weeks pregnant. Does anyone know when she found out she was pregnant. What was the date on the video of her revealing it to him? Perhaps he was not emotionally invested in this pregnancy for some reason. Some husbands won't miss a thing, others for example will show up five hours late after the birth of their first child donning a bag of burger king. It depends on how invested/involved they want to be with the pregnancy. I just wonder if the pregnancy might have been a Catalyst of sorts. I pray not, but my gut is not feeling good about this. I keep thinking who had motive, who had opportunity, and if it was the elephant in the room what changed? IMHO

 

[Cortne]

Just my opinion I’m wondering if perhaps she knew of a emotional conversation that would be taking place since she drove her home that night. She also had made plans to see her the next day immediately concerned . Also my opinion most parents would go to the dr appointment together if it were a gender reveal appointment . This also would not be something a mother would miss

Yes agreed. The friend had reason to be on alert.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Which leads me to the obvious question which is the couple's current financial situation. I've viewed her SM and she is not unlike many young women today. She has her SM life that appears wonderful, beautiful family, nice home, perfect life, but we all know that is never to be assumed to be correct. This is what people wish to share and put across not always what is actually going on. If she is doing so well with her business they may have overextended themselves credit wise. The way she is earning her income is never a "solid income" especially with the product she is selling which has much negative press available to anyone looking for it. These are trend companies that ride the wave and can and usually do fizzle out leaving people with debt they have no way of paying back. I looked at the property valuation and they must have a hefty mortgage on that house.

Zillow says they purchased the house for $399k. That's below average for this area. So I think the assumption of a hefty mortgage is relative.

Not saying I disagree with your observations, just stating that most everyone who lives in the general area has a mortgage like that or larger, probably.