Shannan Gilbert Found, death declared an accident. What do you think?

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help me out with gah?

I won't owe you a beer will I Adler?

gah; guilty as hell -- as in, "He' so gah, isn't he?" We'll talk about over the beers the others will be buying you and me one day, perhaps, if any of the sleuthers ever make it out to SF.
 
Nice theory, but unfortunately, Coletti saw her, so the place where he saw her (hiding behind a boat near to his place) is the starting point. To say, she ran along those Oak Beach roads would mean, you ignore Coletti. And even without that problem, you still would have to explain how the one legged guy can go into the marsh carrying a body better than the 90 lbs girl alone. Well, you would first need to explain, why he would have the body at first and that would need a motive. Unless you say, CPH is the LISK, but then you would need to explain, why the signature is that different from the GB4.
As of yet, it looks more like CPH causes some kind of Pavlov-reflex to you.

Peter

Do you know for certain that Coletti actually saw Shannan that morning, and did not simply call 911 when he heard somebody banging on his front door?

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Do people house sit for their neighbors in Oak Beach, take in the mail and make sure the water pipes don't burst as a neighborly thing to do before the other more seasonal neighbors make their summer arrivals?

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Don't forget the trails that we could see in all the early google aerials and Seaslug's aerials. Anyone with a 4 wheeler could have dumped her there.

In addition, this killer probably kept some of the victims for quite some time before dumping them by the side of the road. There are ways to keep the bones in tact until the body is dumped. Then, after dumping the remains and over time and due to the elements,the real decomp took place

IMO, someone kept SG's remains until after the search for bodies slowed to a halt...maybe even moved her there from a hiding place...shortly before she was found but long enough for her body to become skeletonized. I'm trying not to be graphic...but, I'm thinking freezer or mummification.


Wow, I wouldn't dare and try to bring a frozen body pass a second semester student. It'S pretty obvious ... hello freezer burn.
And mummification is even worse. You know, all those embalming fluids? I wouldn't use that idea not even in a fiction novel because my readers know too much about that stuff. Which maybe should make me scared bout my readers?

Peter
 
If she was there the whole time...all vegetation under her remains should have been dead, destroyed and possibly blackened by the adipoce (decomp bodily fluids.) SCPD, they have not divulged anything to the public about Shannan's remains site.

Was her other earring found next to her skull?
Was the skeleton intact minus the Hyoid Bone?
Was there any tissue left on her bones?
Was there a bra or underwear found on or over the bones.
Was there a shirt?
Was her blonde wig on or near her skull?
Was her natural hair found under and beside her skull or found at all?

Was her titanium jaw found?
If so, was it in the appropriate position?

Did a Forensic Anthropologist analyze the remains?

Was there evidence of vegetation growth on, through, or under her remains?

Was there evidence of a year and a half's worth of weather damage to the bones. Were the bones darker or lighter in the areas that should have been based on being exposed for a year and a half?


None of these facts have been released.

Would be nice if they would tell us. But then, if the answer is not supporting some theories, they would be ignored anyway, so what?

Peter
 

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@peter brendt
re:.....We should ask that Mocking Bird or Truthspider who creep around there all the time as they claim.

I don't creep around Oak Beach....I've never met Truthspider
but i concur with the truth telling spider in spider web of deceit out in oak beach!!!!!

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no we don't

So we have reached the level to declare every witness a liar now if his testimony doesn't fit the theory? Or any reasons to declare, Coletti lied (which means, Pak lied also because he saw Coletti out of the house)? Are they maybe all in this giant conspiracy? And do they know where the Templar treasure is and the documents about that inside job of 9/11? Questions over questions, Truthspider.
 
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@peter brendt
re:.....We should ask that Mocking Bird or Truthspider who creep around there all the time as they claim.

I don't creep around Oak Beach....I've never met Truthspider
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Well, according to what you said earlier and since you are obviously never there (or you would know Truthspider, who is allegedly always there) you are out of this investigation.
But maybe we wait till they catch the LISK and see then who pays the beers? I knew those guys on Yahoo once, who were so sure in the Flint case. They lost, but they don't send beer. So I hope, you're more honest in that.

Peter
 
Well, according to what you said earlier and since you are obviously never there (or you would know Truthspider, who is allegedly always there) you are out of this investigation.
But maybe we wait till they catch the LISK and see then who pays the beers? I knew those guys on Yahoo once, who were so sure in the Flint case. They lost, but they don't send beer. So I hope, you're more honest in that.

Peter

@PB......

since i'm obviously never there?
never say never...
just because truth spider and I dont know each other
doesnt mean we have not been there at the same time.

i do not live in oak beach...if that is what you're getting at.
he doesnt live in there either
he apparently lives in his stealth mobile with the telescope.

i live a more average life than truth.
 
So we have reached the level to declare every witness a liar now if his testimony doesn't fit the theory? Or any reasons to declare, Coletti lied (which means, Pak lied also because he saw Coletti out of the house)? Are they maybe all in this giant conspiracy? And do they know where the Templar treasure is and the documents about that inside job of 9/11? Questions over questions, Truthspider.


Why does anybody lie? There are millions of reasons. No conspiracy theory here. People are people. Let's say that most of what Coletti said was accurate and he prevaricated only on the part that reveals his own fear--his fear of opening a door until after he called 911 and until after he saw the lights of a car through his window coming down the street. Then he opens the door. Shannan's already hiding under the boat in his yard. The jacket he later recounts as hanging off her shoulders is, in fact, way back up the road, in front of JB's driveway. Why would somebody tell such a fib, if that is what happened? Who knows. It's irrelevant anyway.

The gah is probably a manipulator of situations and that character trait has nothing to do with a possible little fib on the part of Coletti; it's just a serendipitous coincidence for him. That is all.

I do not think gah has all the people in this neighborhood lying for him, covering for him. If he could pay hush money he wouldn't; he does not trust people enough for that. Nah, the dude is acting solo. He probably likes to play chess in his spare time. This is his project and he gets all the credit.

Again, no conspiracy theories here. Just human nature at its best.
 
Be kind. throw them back in.
Except the shark and the octopus.

The only thing I am throwing in the water is my harpoon. I have not taken any fish this year and I have a bloodlust to quench. That probably is not the best thing to say on this particular topic however.
 
I know 50% of you will disagree with 50% of what I believe, but here goes:
CH - scared liar
Coletti - scared, but told the truth
Brewer - cocky liar, spoiled brat, thief, aggressive towards prostitutes
Pak - professional liar, sissy and human trafficker
Alex Diaz - professional liar, pimp, women beater
 
I know 50% of you will disagree with 50% of what I believe, but here goes:

CH - scared liar
Coletti - scared, but told the truth
Brewer - cocky liar, spoiled brat, thief, aggressive towards prostitutes
Pak - professional liar, sissy and human trafficker
Alex Diaz - professional liar, pimp, women beater


ok bks, but wheres your killer?

(50% of the time cph lies every time)
 
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