Sheehan Arrested at Whitehouse

[tybee204]

And regarding Muhammad Atta FICTION

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hijacker.htm

The Pilot of One of the Hijacked 9/11 Airliners Was In Custody, but Released At President Reagan's Or President Clinton's -Fiction!

Summary of eRumor:
The email says that in 1986, a pilot named Atta was captured and imprisoned in Israel for blowing up a bus. As a part of the famous Oslo Accords, Israel was to release "political prisoners," but was reluctant to let any prisoners go free who had "blood on their hands." One version says it was at the insistence of President Ragan and Secretary of State George Shultz, Atta was freed. Another says it was insisted upon by Bill Clinton and Warren Christopher.


The Truth:
According to several news sources, including the Boston Globe, which was among those that originally published the story, this turned out to be a case of mistaken identity. An article from 9/19/01 says that Second Circuit Court of Appeals records showed that the man arrested in connection with the bus attack in Israel used an alias that was the same as the name of the hijacker, Mahmoud Atta. Even that suspect, however, was not in custody so where the story about Reagan the Oslo accords came from, we don't know. The Oslo accords were signed in 1993 and Ronald Reagan left office in 1989. Additionally, we've not been able to find any provisions in the Oslo accords as described. There were provisions for the release of a large number Palestinian prisoners.

The original version of the eRumor included the Reagan connection. Someone along the way decided to pin the blame on Bill Clinton and a new, revised version started circulating with his and Warren Christopher's names inserted

 

[ember]

I stand corrected. :blushing:


Wow, though...I could have sworn on that one considering who it was sent from...:waitasec: ...just goes to show ya, huh. I never checked it out though on any of those site because I got it long before the internet was as mainstream as it is now. Thanks, Tybee. Sorry everyone.

I am humbled.

 

[ember]

Boy...I'm making enemies here already & it's only my 8th post, lol

I heard that could happen...

 

[tybee204]

LOL mass forwared emails generally prove to be false. I recieved that same one some years ago and had already checked it out.

 

[JBean]

Boy...I'm making enemies here already & it's only my 8th post, lol

I heard that could happen...

I don't know about enemies ember, but you are making friends .

 

[tybee204]

BTW it couldnt have been pre Internet mainstream that the email started. It references 9/11 and Mohammad Atta. The Internet was pretty "mainstream by 9/11.

 

[ember]

Well thanks for clearing that up...all of this time I believed that. I work with military and they believe it. Isn't it crazy what people will believe on trust...I better stop right there, cause that's opening up a whole other can of worms. :silenced:

I guess I'm looking pretty "ignorant of history" myself right now...:laugh: :slap:

But I still believe all of this started long before either Bush got in office... :snooty: , lol

And I still think Cindy Sheehan should try to find a better outlet for her grief and anger. A country, in my opinion, should work like good parents do...show a united front. Just my opinion!

 

[tybee204]

LOL Maybe Ollie North can pay them a visit and set them straight on the facts.

FROM THE DESK OF LTCOL OLIVER L. NORTH (USMC) RET.
NOVEMBER 28, 2001



OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL THOUSAND E-MAILS FROM EVERY STATE IN THE U.S. AND 13 FOREIGN COUNTRIES IN WHICH THE ORIGINATOR PURPORTS TO HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED A VIDEOTAPE OF MY SWORN TESTIMONY BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IN 1987.



A COPY OF ONE OF THOSE E-MAILS IS ATTACHED BELOW. AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE GIFT OF PROPHESY, I DON'T HAVE IT.



I DON'T KNOW WHO SAW WHAT VIDEO "AT UNC." (OR ANYWHERE ELSE) BUT, FOR THE RECORD, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW:



1. IT WAS THE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, JOHN NIELDS, NOT A SENATOR WHO WAS DOING THE QUESTIONING.



2. THE SECURITY SYSTEM, INSTALLED AT MY HOME, JUST BEFORE I MADE A VERY SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, COST, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE, $16K, NOT $60K.



3. THE TERRORIST WHO THREATENED TO KILL ME IN 1986, JUST BEFORE THAT SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, WAS NOT USAMA BIN LADEN, IT WAS ABU NIDAL (WHO WORKS FOR THE LIBYANS -- NOT THE TALIBAN AND NOT IN AFGHANISTAN).



4. I NEVER SAID I WAS AFRAID OF ANYBODY. I DID SAY THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO MEET ABU NIDAL ON EQUAL TERMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THAT I WAS UNWILLING TO HAVE HIM OR HIS OPERATIVES MEET MY WIFE AND CHILDREN ON HIS TERMS.



5. I DID SAY THAT THE TERRORISTS INTERCEPTED BY THE FBI ON THE WAY TO MY HOUSE IN FEB. 87 TO KILL MY WIFE, CHILDREN AND ME WERE LIBYANS, DISPATCHED FROM THE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE FOR LIBYAN STUDENTS IN MCLEAN, VIRGINIA.



6. AND I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED).



7. AND, FYI: THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS REMAINED AT OUR HOME UNTIL I RETIRED FROM THE MARINES AND WAS NO LONGER A "GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL." BY THEN, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAD SPENT MORE THAN $2M PROTECTING THE NORTH FAMILY. THE TERRORISTS SENT TO KILL US WERE NEVER RE-APPREHENDED.



SEMPER FIDELIS,
OLIVER L. NORTH

 

[ember]

BTW it couldnt have been pre Internet mainstream that the email started. It references 9/11 and Mohammad Atta. The Internet was pretty "mainstream by 9/11.

True, but not so much in my neck 'o the woods. We were able to use it for work related things and that's it. No checking out stuff on the web allowed.
I didn't have it at home until, oh say, last year.
Yes, I pretty much lived under a rock at that time, lol...

No really, I'm a nature girl... I love to be outside. We didn't have access here for the longest time and it didn't bother me. Too, I was afraid it would taint me some how...you know cause me to have less human contact and be a computer hermit like my brother, lol

Look at me now...:doh:

 

[ember]

I don't know about enemies ember, but you are making friends .

Why, thank you...that's sweet...one can never have enough friends!

 

[JDB]

Why, thank you...that's sweet...one can never have enough friends!

Hey anyone that have the guts to admit when wrong here. Is AOK in my book. I have to do it many times LAFFIN :blowkiss:

 

[ember]

Hey anyone that have the guts to admit when wrong here. Is AOK in my book. I have to do it many times LAFFIN :blowkiss:

I try to be honest and live by a code. When I'm wrong...I admit it. But I'm not wrong too often, lol :innocent:

:blowkiss: back at ya

 

[terminatrixator]

Many parents that lost Sons in Vietnam came to protest the the Vietnam War. They were labled grief stricken, unstable and unpatriotic as well.

When parents encourage and support their children volunteering for Military Service they put faith and trust in the Government to not play politics with the lives of Americans. This war has been shown repeatedly to have begun under false pretenses, false information and false claims to both the the American citizens and the World.


This war is like going back 40 years in history and repeating the same mistakes.

That faith and trust is at times proven to be misplaced.

The way I see it, ask many who have come back from the war, and saw the thousands upon thousands of mass graves. Saddam Hussein is now out of Power and his reign of terror is no more.

Government is politics, no matter if you are Independent, communist, Replublican or a Democrat. It's politics, no matter how you slice it. Our government is also about Freedom. The United States has an obligation to ensure freedom for its citizens and as the largest super power, it has a moral duty and obligation to stand against terrorism, genocide and the atrocities committed even in other countries. Yes, I know "Weapons of Mass Destruction" stuff, however, he was given warning time and time again, and to me, Saddam was a Weapon, along with Bin Laden, and I still believe they were in cahoots, in some way over 911.

I am not a war hungry person, but I believe this war was necessary and so do our troops, and I believe in standing behind the decision, out of respect for those that lost their lives, out of respect for our President, who was voted into office to make these decisions, and for the dignity of the people of Iraq.

I pray our men and women come home soon, and Iraq becomes stable to take care of their own.

God Bless the United States of America and our Freedoms.

 

[Nova]

Who claimed Bush "started" problems in the Middle East? As far as I can tell, that argument is a straw man. I think everyone is aware that the Israeli/Palestinian conflicts, the hostage crisis in Iran, the first Gulf War, etc., etc., and so forth predated Bush and Clinton.

Bush is quite rightly blamed for (a) ignoring the evidence on Al Qaeda compiled by the previous administration; (b) manipulating the post-9/11 feelings of Americans and adding his own lies and distortions to "excuse" a war on Iraq; and (c) for mismanaging the war and even now, having no apparent exit strategy.

Though there is plenty of blame to be placed at the feet of Bush's predecessors, he and his administration get all the credit for the items in my previous paragraph.

 

[concernedperson]

Who claimed Bush "started" problems in the Middle East? As far as I can tell, that argument is a straw man. I think everyone is aware that the Israeli/Palestinian conflicts, the hostage crisis in Iran, the first Gulf War, etc., etc., and so forth predated Bush and Clinton.

Bush is quite rightly blamed for (a) ignoring the evidence on Al Qaeda compiled by the previous administration; (b) manipulating the post-9/11 feelings of Americans and adding his own lies and distortions to "excuse" a war on Iraq; and (c) for mismanaging the war and even now, having no apparent exit strategy.

Though there is plenty of blame to be placed at the feet of Bush's predecessors, he and his administration get all the credit for the items in my previous paragraph.

He's the man. What more can I say?

 

[Nova]

Let's sum up the attacks on Ms. Sheehan in this thread:

She is stark-raving mad.

She is overwhelmed by grief.

She isn't motivated by grief; she never loved her son at all.

She was a lousy mother.

She is a publicity hound.

She is a cold, calculating mercenary, only in it for the money.

In the face of this blizzard of ad hominem attacks (which come not just from WS posters, but from the administration and its sycophants at FNC), any thinking person has to suspect there is no valid defense against Ms. Sheehan's complaints.

 

[Marthatex]

We were right to go into Afghanistan, where the Taliban ruled, and terrorist training camps were being held. I think we should have stuck with our original policy of "going after the terrorists where they are, the training camps, no matter what country they're in". After 9-11 we had the sympathy and cooperation of many countries on this. We should have kept at it.

The bombings yesterday in Bali, killing and wounding scores of innocent people, show that Al-Queda connected groups are alive and well.

 

[Nova]

We were right to go into Afghanistan, where the Taliban ruled, and terrorist training camps were being held. I think we should have stuck with our original policy of "going after the terrorists where they are, the training camps, no matter what country they're in". After 9-11 we had the sympathy and cooperation of many countries on this. We should have kept at it.

The bombings yesterday in Bali, killing and wounding scores of innocent people, show that Al-Queda connected groups are alive and well.

Exactly, Martha. Lots of us who normally oppose military intervention overseas understood and supported the action in Afghanistan.

The war in Iraq has been something else entirely...

 

[deanws]

I don't know about enemies ember, but you are making friends .

I agree...welcome ember :angel:

 

[ember]

I agree...welcome ember :angel:

Thank you too for a warm welcome. Everyone has been so nice, it feels good to be here.