Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt1

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And if it turns out that this pattern of infidelity is true - how could JM NOT know? As i posted once earlier, I have been in a core ministry position in the Evangelical movement. I've attended several JM events. I became disillusioned because of this type of covert shuffling of "dirt" under the rug. (not on this level- thank God). But I did see how "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

If this all is true, he didn't even have to pay for a ticket to see his gf.I saw post that she is paying for legal bills if true,I would think and hope it hurts JMM.
 
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And if it turns out that this pattern of infidelity is true - how could JM NOT know? As i posted once earlier, I have been in a core ministry position in the Evangelical movement. I've attended several JM events. I became disillusioned because of this type of covert shuffling of "dirt" under the rug. (not on this level- thank God). But I did see how "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".


IMO if this all is true It seems he was living the life of a rock star not a minister son and not a good christian life.It went to his head.
 
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I am play catch up now (from about 5pm on Monday) - I went to sleep to get some much needed rest. So someone may have answered your question.

Yes this is true - it was reported by FOX news on Monday when they talked about Coleman's family clearing out the house.

It went something like this during the newscast...

We are here at the Coleman house - There are 2 auto here - one parked on the street registered to Chris Coleman and one parked in the garage also registered to Chris Coleman... (Then went into how Coleman and his family showed up at the house and that Coleman's family started removing things from the house. Chris' clothing, some books, etc)


Thank you chestergal!

Seeeeee..........this fits into a pattern, a not so pretty pattern, one that is yet to be fully developed.

It's all down to {CONTROL}!

The cars are in HIS NAME ONLY.
The house is in HIS NAME ONLY.

Interesting that when he went with his family to the home, they didn't just get a few suitcases of his clothes. Nope! They got a trailer full, two vehicles full, AND BOTH CARS.

Yep,....................the picture is starting to take shape. :rolleyes:

JMHO
fran

PS.........NOTICE...........to any of Sheri's friends who may be reading here. IF you know anything, ANYTHING at all with regard to the relationship of Sheri and Chris, PLEASE call LE today. YOU MAY know something important!
 
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I don't think that he was going to leave her either. Because Sheri knew "the other woman" its possible that someone else tipped her off. CC could have ended it with Tara and Tara told Sheri, especially if she felt that CC had led her to believe that it was more than an affair. I can't even imagine how betrayed Sheri would have felt knowing that her husband was having an affair with one of her friends.

Yep, there's nothing worse than your husband having an affair, EXCEPT when it's one of your own close friends!

ala Jason Young! He's gotten away with it so far, BUT, he's the number 1 suspect and LE has his number. His days as a free man are numbered.

As are Chris Coleman's, IMHO.:behindbar

We're working on something..............;)

JMHO
fran
 
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NEWS THIS MORNING...

MCS are outside the Coleman home in Chester IL. There are several MCS detectives sitting in cars surrounding the parents home where Chris is staying and they are at every street entering the small subdivision. They are not there to protect the family they are keeping close tabs on Chris. (I think they are there to make him sweat and to make sure he does not run and they are probably waiting for orders to go in and arrest him)

Also the MCS is very confident that they will solve this case.

Wow! This is getting good!:eek:

Now for the finale!

:behindbar

fran
 
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Yep, there's nothing worse than you husband having an affair, EXCEPT when it's one of your own close friends!

ala Jason Young! He's gotten away with it so far, BUT, he's the number 1 suspect and LE has his number. His days as a free man are numbered.

As are Chris Coleman's, IMHO.:behindbar

We're working on something..............;)

JMHO
fran

Then to be murdered and your 2 beautiful sons as well.
 
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4 cars with 2 MCS guys in each here in Chester - something is going to break soon.

I know I have a ways to go to catch up to the most current posts, but it sounds or looks like,


LE is WAITING for a judge to sign an arrest warrant so they can take him into custody. IMHO, they just want to be sure he is right where they want him WHEN they want him!:eek:

JMHO
fran
 
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I'm way behind (back on page 42) so if this has already been discussed and I haven't gotten there yet, I want to apologize ahead of time, but I just got home from work and am trying to catch up with all of you.

It would be very interesting to see what his previous habit was as far as calling home at that hour. If going to the gym on his days off at that time of day was normal, wonder if it was also normal to be phoning home during that time, or if this was just for the benefit of supporting his claim of concern for the welfare of his family.

Gawd, I hope this isn't another "Hello Beautiful" phony messages............
 
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I know I have a ways to go to catch up to the most current posts, but it sounds or looks like,


LE is WAITING for a judge to sign an arrest warrant so they can take him into custody. IMHO, they just want to be sure he is right where they want him WHEN they want him!:eek:

JMHO
fran

I am thinking the same thing.
 
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I have to admit, these cases make me weep.

It's bad enough when it's the wife.
It's bad enough when its the pregnant wife.

But the children?

Why?

:(
fran
 
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good post over at stltoday.com

"http://my.stltoday.com/VCDaedalusMay 13, 2009 8:31AM CST mikeysmm, I was informed by another poster that if he is officially a suspect, then Margulis (who got Dennis Bulloch off on a reduced charge--after Bulloch taped his wife to a chair and incinerated her) will have the legal right to see the evidence that the police have gathered.

As long as CC isn't officially a suspect, the police can gather, collate, and assess the evidence without Margulis in there going "Inadmissible! Inadmissible! We're going to challenge this, you'll never get that in court," etc., and generally disrupting the process as much as he legally can.

Not naming him suspect is a tactical move that has no bearing on his guilt or innocence."
 
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holy cow! motive!

"
LARGO, Fla. — Police are investigating a romantic relationship between a woman in Florida and Christopher Coleman, whose wife and two children were slain last week at their home in Columbia, Ill.

Detectives have acknowledged traveling to Florida last week. They were there to interview a woman described as Coleman's girlfriend, a law enforcement source close to the case said Tuesday.

A second police source confirmed the relationship. They did not say whether they think it played any role in the murders."

When I read this article I had immediately had visions of Steven Beckham.

Steven Beckham was also a son of a highly respected and loved Preacher and appeared to be a loving caring husband but Steven secretly had yearned for the darker more titillating side of life and spent his time and money in sleazy strip bars out of town.

He hired one of the bouncers at his favorite strip club to come and help him murder his wife.

So I am beginning to think that this is what CC wanted too and wanted to be free of all family responsibilities. I wonder how often he gave the excuse that he had to travel to Florida?

I had wanted this man to be innocent of these horrid crimes. I wanted him to be in the majority who do not kill their wives and having affairs does not make a killer either or unfortunately men and women would be dropping like flies at an alarming rate daily.

I wanted him to turnout to be like Mark Lunsford, Steve Greone and Dan Horowitz, whom people had thought were the suspects, but in the end weren't. But I cannot deny what I see and imo, he either did this or he hired someone to do this.

I would still love to be wrong. Not only for Sheri, Gavin and Garrett's sake and her family but for all the lives that will be shattered by this tragedy, including CCs family and friends, whom I am sure are going to have a very hard time coming to grips with what the man they "thought" they knew, may have done.

imo
 
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What is it with these not main stream kind of churches,First we had Huckaby, Now Coleman.What are these preachers preaching?Is it all that fire and brimstone preaching,I always thought that would make you so afraid you would be good.Seems like it backfires just saying.

I went to the ministry's website last night before I went to bed. The ministry is named after this lady. I don't think that I've ever seen that, it seems pretty egotistical to me.
 
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Interesting! From NG last night:

There was some damage to the screen, but the window was found open. Back window leading into a basement was found open. No indication that force was used on the window.
 
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Have any of Sherri's friends or family spoken out about what they think? Not that we could convict someone based on popular opinion, but it would be interesting to hear something from someone who loved her. IF he did it, he WILL get found out...too many eyes on this to get away with it...and strippers always talk.
 
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I have read alot of comment sections and the posts that were made in anger all seem to be coming out now.So my guess is some have come out on the boards.I think for the most part they are still in such pain and grief and it will take some time but I think once arrest is made then they will speak out.JMO
 
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I have to admit, these cases make me weep.

It's bad enough when it's the wife.
It's bad enough when its the pregnant wife.

But the children?

Why?

:(
fran

IMHO, It's the ultimate act of male domination gone awry and it is the barometer of spiritual weather in a society. Men who would rather murder their children than look "bad". Women who would rather murder their children (or stand by and watch the man do it, rather than "lose" him.

Since this case is to irrevocably tied with JMM, and therefore Christianity, reminds me of what Walter Wink (an AWESOME modern theologian) has written in an amazing series of books on "The Powers That Be" that describes the fallen social, political and economic structure of the world as the domination system. To one degree or another, he says this system pervades nearly every human society, whether ancient or modern, dictatorship or democracy, socialist or capitalist.


He says that all share similar underlying characteristics. Power and wealth are concentrated in the hands of an elite minority so that a privileged few benefit at the expense of the many. Cooperative legal and religious institutions condone, legitimize, support and perpetuate the system.

Violence is employed to protect and maintain the status quo.


At the heart of the domination system is a set of shared values—the pursuit of power and wealth; the pursuit of prestige, status, and honor; exclusive and hierarchical social relationships; and male domination over women. He says that most people believe that the domination system is the way things are, have been, and will always be. (and many believe it's the way they should be :eek:)


This system, by it's nature makes victims out of women and children - they are "less than" and, therefore, less "worthy". Wink says, and the Gospel says, that Jesus came to tell us that this was not the "truth" and to teach us how to change, or transform, the way we perceive and live with each other.

I think that JM truly believes Jesus’ vision of a community of people whose lives are changed dramatically to a new way of living and relating to one another. That is the teaching that drew me to her. She teaches about personal transformation and social transformation and reinforces the worldview that Jesus taught - that God is loving and compassionate and cares for our welfare. She had a vision to create a world-wide community of people who are loving and compassionate and who care for each other’s welfare. She's done alot of good works.

But this tragedy underlines the nature of the power struggle and now one of it's players has done the unthinkable. I wonder if JMM will cast CC out to avoid bad publicity or remain bound to him in the great friendship she described last week?
 
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I'm way behind (back on page 42) so if this has already been discussed and I haven't gotten there yet, I want to apologize ahead of time, but I just got home from work and am trying to catch up with all of you.

It would be very interesting to see what his previous habit was as far as calling home at that hour. If going to the gym on his days off at that time of day was normal, wonder if it was also normal to be phoning home during that time, or if this was just for the benefit of supporting his claim of concern for the welfare of his family.

Gawd, I hope this isn't another "Hello Beautiful" phony messages............

If he went to the gym I wonder if anyone noticed and scratches on his arms.

I wonder if he even went to the gym, its possible that he actually went to get rid of evidence.
 
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Don't know if it is brother or ex-husband.

There is a Michael-48-Male-Tampa, Florida on MySpace and Tara L. Is one of his friends. Her friend pic is rather small, but there is pic of she and some guy at a table with a small cake. Looks like a birthday pic. As for some of this guys other friends - :eek::eek:!

Her ex-husbands name is Peter. I'll refrain from posting the last name until I know it's OK to do so.

Good Morning!
 
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When I read this article I had immediately had visions of Steven Beckham.

Steven Beckham was also a son of a highly respected and loved Preacher and appeared to be a loving caring husband but Steven secretly had yearned for the darker more titillating side of life and spent his time and money in sleazy strip bars out of town.

He hired one of the bouncers at his favorite strip club to come and help him murder his wife.

So I am beginning to think that this is what CC wanted too and wanted to be free of all family responsibilities. I wonder how often he gave the excuse that he had to travel to Florida?

I had wanted this man to be innocent of these horrid crimes. I wanted him to be in the majority who do not kill their wives and having affairs does not make a killer either or unfortunately men and women would be dropping like flies at an alarming rate daily.

I wanted him to turnout to be like Mark Lunsford, Steve Greone and Dan Horowitz, whom people had thought were the suspects, but in the end weren't. But I cannot deny what I see and imo, he either did this or he hired someone to do this.

I would still love to be wrong. Not only for Sheri, Gavin and Garrett's sake and her family but for all the lives that will be shattered by this tragedy, including CCs family and friends, whom I am sure are going to have a very hard time coming to grips with what the man they "thought" they knew, may have done.

imo

I was hoping that he was innocent as well.
 
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