Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt2

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  • #1,061
Yes, that's what I meant. They would have to show a judge probable cause to get the warrant. BTW - I love your sig line and agree 100%, my grandchildren have brought a new level of joy into my life. :heart:

Thank you,so far I only have the one but it truly is a new level of joy.He means the world to me.Motherhood was a joy but being his mom-mom is bliss.
 
  • #1,062
You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we (JMM) have no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he has resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.

from article (my words between the ()

"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)



My statement about resign or get fired and face legal charges (theft) means that CC was caught red handed with electronic property that belonged to JMM, items that he should not have had in his home.

Honestly its a damn shame that JMM is not bringing charges against him for theft of property otherwise he might be sitting in a STLC jail right now but he would get bailed out anyhow. I am sure LE wanted JMM to press charges but JMM wants to wipe their hands COMPLETELY clean of him.

(example: Walker to CC. Well CC we are here asking for your resign because we know that you stole JMM property because LE found it in your home. If you choose not to resign we will file a theft complaint with LE and we will fire you for the theft. With what is going on now in your life you really don't need to be pinned as thief as well as being a possible suspect in the murders of your family and JMM really does not any more bad publicity. So what are you going to do? Resign or get fired and be pinned as a thief who also stole from their employee?)


My comments about the JMM Employee Rules was a JOKE! (dry sarcasm)
 
  • #1,063
You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.



"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)

Chester, I highly doubt he was forced to resign because he had electronic equipment belonging to JMM. He was security, it was his job ~ lots of jobs require you to have company owned equipment with you, even when you're not on company time. I'm fairly certain that the affair and a possible upcoming murder charge had a heck of a lot more to do with the COO showing up and him "resigning" in a 30 minute time period, than him having electronic equipment with him.
 
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You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.



"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)

I just smacked myself like in those v8 ads LOL.Now I get it I thought they went in to his office and took what was there.Thank you for clarifying it.
 
  • #1,066
I think you solved it Stella5 :thumb::laughitup:

I think I did!!! :Banane47: Maybe I should call CA's tip line and let her know where Zanny is ;-)
 
  • #1,067
IMO, I think they are one in the same. I would venture to guess that he had a laptop computer which belonged to JMM and police seized it from the parents' house along with probably a radio or a cell phone he used at work. He probably had a lot of "electronic equipment" which belonged to JMM. The back of his suv was full of equipment on the day of the murder.

I'm thinking of a computer he brought from the house in Columbia to his parent's house .. otherwise it had to be his parent's computer? .. because you would think all the computers had been seized from the family home on the day of the murders.

Someone posted the Colemans had started a video surveillance company so that may have been some of the equipment in his car.

Is there a photo showing the equipment or was this in a news report?
 
  • #1,068
You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.



"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)

My statement about resign or face legal charges (theft) means that CC was caught red handed with electronic property that belonged to JMM, items that he should not have had in his home.

Honestly it a damn shame that JMM is not bringing charges against him for theft of property otherwise he might be sitting in a STLC jail right now but he would get bailed out anyhow. I am sure LE wanted JMM to press charges but JMM wants to wipe their hands COMPLETELY clean of him.

ITA. I wonder if the surveillance equipment he used to watch his home (and mailbox) belonged to JMM? And what about the equipment used in his side business?
 
  • #1,069
I'm watching her too! I woke up hubby up with a loud laugh when NG was asking MM (local radio reporter) if Golds had surviellance cameras and he replied I don't believe we know that at this point and she replies "Well all you have to do is drive over there and look up at the ceiling FYI" I love how matter of fact she can be!

I get a kick out of her .................been a fan since OJ trial.
 
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  • #1,071
You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we (JMM) have no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he has resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.



"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)

My statement about resign or face legal charges (theft) means that CC was caught red handed with electronic property that belonged to JMM, items that he should not have had in his home.

Honestly its a damn shame that JMM is not bringing charges against him for theft of property otherwise he might be sitting in a STLC jail right now but he would get bailed out anyhow. I am sure LE wanted JMM to press charges but JMM wants to wipe their hands COMPLETELY clean of him.

If he simply had to turn the equipment over which was wrongfully in his possession, LE wouldn't have necessarily been involved and the equipment would have been "HANDED OVER" to his former employer JMM--not "SEIZED" by LE. It seems more likely LE confiscated the equipment because it may contain incriminating evidence related to the murders they are investigating.
ETA: fixed quote linkback
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  • #1,072
Ok - still wondering WHY this is important. IMO, LE knows with whom CC was having an affair. Honestly, the identity, profession or character of the woman really isn't relevant. The fact that CC WAS having an affair when his wife and children were murdered is what is important here. It goes to motive. His, not hers (not yet anyway).

Her story will be coming soon to a tabloid near you.
ENQUIRER EXCLUSIVE I was Chris Coleman's secret lover.
(then she gets a free lawyer) :rolleyes:
Yes, I made this up, it's late.
IMO
 
  • #1,073
Analytical~ Gotta give you credit here. You hold your own very well. :)

Being on opposite sides of the fence here only means sooner or later it will topple over with the weight of the evidence behind it. However, I already see it leaning a bit towards one side from where I stand. LOL

Hang in there. When all is said and done, there may be a great feast of crow and we don't mind eating it as long as it served with a nice wine. ;)
 
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You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we (JMM) have no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he has resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.



"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)

My statement about resign or get fired and face legal charges (theft) means that CC was caught red handed with electronic property that belonged to JMM, items that he should not have had in his home.

Honestly its a damn shame that JMM is not bringing charges against him for theft of property otherwise he might be sitting in a STLC jail right now but he would get bailed out anyhow. I am sure LE wanted JMM to press charges but JMM wants to wipe their hands COMPLETELY clean of him.


My comments about the JMM Employee Rules was a JOKE! (dry sarcasm)

I agree with your post. HOWEVER, the post you quoted says it was from me, but it was not. FWIW...
 
  • #1,075
I think there is much more to this case than meets the eye.

I'll venture that there is a possibility that someone was so bent on targeting Chris and family that they set it up to leave Chris behind and frame him for the murders.


With all due respect, this makes no sense to me. Frame him how? By sending threatenting messages to his family, killing his family when he is out of the house and then leaving a message something to the effect of "I told you this would happen" on the wall of his home after the murders? If that's all there was here, I might agree with your point of view. But, what we have are several things that Chris himself did that caused Chris to look like the guilty party. In fact, pretty much everything Chris has done - having an affair, putting the house and cars in his name recently, apparently having a loud argument at @ 3:00 a.m. when he was admittedly still home on the morning of the murders, lawyering up mere hours after the murders, compelling LE to seek a Court order for fingerprintsrather than campijng on their doorstep and voluntarily giving whatever they wanted, not notifying his wife's family about his wife and sons' demise for two whole days, then acting strange with them about allowing them to say goodbye at the funeral - all of THAT is what makes me feel he is guilty. So how did the real killer force Chris to do all that? Because forcing him to act like he's guilty as hell is the only way a framing scenario makes sense here. IMO.
 
  • #1,076
I think something is wrong with the post.It was from Chestergal.
 
  • #1,077
With all due respect, this makes no sense to me. Frame him how? By sending threatenting messages to his family, killing his family when he is out of the house and then leaving a message something to the effect of "I told you this would happen" on the wall of his home after the murders? If that's all there was here, I might agree with your point of view. But, what we have are several things that Chris himself did that caused Chris to look like the guilty party. In fact, pretty much everything Chris has done - having an affair, putting the house and cars in his name recently, apparently having a loud argument at @ 3:00 a.m. when he was admittedly still home on the morning of the murders, lawyering up mere hours after the murders, compelling LE to seek a Court order for fingerprintsrather than campijng on their doorstep and voluntarily giving whatever they wanted, not notifying his wife's family about his wife and sons' demise for two whole days, then acting strange with them about allowing them to say goodbye at the funeral - all of THAT is what makes me feel he is guilty. So how did the real killer force Chris to do all that? Because forcing him to act like he's guilty as hell is the only way a framing scenario makes sense here. IMO.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #1,078
I have edited to this... (I am reposting all of it here)


You all kinda amaze me sometimes...

If they fire him than the media will be hotter than hell wanting to know why.
If he resigns then JMM is rid of him and all JMM has to say is ask CC why he resigned we (JMM) have no comment and there is no reason for us to talk to you (the media) since he has resigned.

Clearly CC was forced to resign because LE seized electronic equipment from the home in Columbia that maybe CC did not have permission to take from the JMM.

from article (my words between the ()

"Police seized "electronic equipment" connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job (equipment that belonged to JMM that CC should not of had in is possession), Walker said, but would not describe what it was or how it had been used." (as in what & how CC was using it when it was found in the CC home by LE)



My statement about resign or get fired and face legal charges (theft) means that CC was caught red handed with electronic property that belonged to JMM, items that he should not have had in his home.

Honestly its a damn shame that JMM is not bringing charges against him for theft of property otherwise he might be sitting in a STLC jail right now but he would get bailed out anyhow. I am sure LE wanted JMM to press charges but JMM wants to wipe their hands COMPLETELY clean of him.

(example: Walker to CC. Well CC we are here asking for your resign because we know that you stole JMM property because LE found it in your home. If you choose not to resign we will file a theft complaint with LE and we will fire you for the theft. With what is going on now in your life you really don't need to be pinned as thief as well as being a possible suspect in the murders of your family and JMM really does not any more bad publicity. So what are you going to do? Resign or get fired and be pinned as a thief who also stole from their employee?)


My comments about the JMM Employee Rules was a JOKE! (dry sarcasm)
Last edited by chestergal; Today at 01:11 AM. Reason: too add more and to clarify
 
  • #1,079
I'm thinking of a computer he brought from the house in Columbia to his parent's house .. otherwise it had to be his parent's computer? .. because you would think all the computers had been seized from the family home on the day of the murders.

Someone posted the Colemans had started a video surveillance company so that may have been some of the equipment in his car.

Is there a photo showing the equipment or was this in a news report?
I would think LE did not allow Chris to remove anything from the home like computers or electronic equipment and those things would have been taken into forensics. If he had a laptop he used at work, he could have gone by JMM and gotten it sometime after the murders.

Yes. There was a company he started, but also mention of how it was not in good standing. The equipment could have been his own, but he may have been hauling around things he used on the road with JMM with the travel bags. The photo is here of his vehicle opened up by LE: http://www.kmov.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=16216&nextimage=1

I didn't get the impression he stole anything from JMM and it was the reason he was asked to resign.
 
  • #1,080
You all should quote as sometimes it so hard to figure who you are responding to or asking questions from.
 
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