Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

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Analytical,

Yes. That is a possibility. That is , that the "code of conduct" thing that got him fired was related to his snooping of home. I just feel that is not all.

I posed questions about what exactly CC did for JMM. I hoped folks here could dig and find more information. I can't tell you, I'm Sorry.

I will come back to CC's elaborate "stalker/angry person" threats. That was his Alibi, right? Why would he expect anyone to believe such drama unless he was in fact doing something that would seriously anger people. You tell me what.

If you see JMM bring forth counsel to respond to further questions then you will know that I am right




IdleSleuth,

If CC sent the feed from the security camera at his house to JMM so he could "observe" his family during his overnight shift in light of the alleged threats, that would violate company policy, wouldn't it? To be using employer equipment for personal use, no matter how reasonable it might seem in light of the alleged threats.

You posed questions earlier you didn't answer. What is the significance of CC travelling with JM herself?
 
IdleSleuth,

If CC sent the feed from the security camera at his house to JMM so he could "observe" his family during his overnight shift in light of the alleged threats, that would violate company policy, wouldn't it? To be using employer equipment for personal use, no matter how reasonable it might seem in light of the alleged threats.

You posed questions earlier you didn't answer. What is the significance of CC travelling with JM herself?

I would bet that the JMM compound had cameras too. Is it possible that CC was sending feeds from the compound back to his home?
 
Analytical,

Yes. That is a possibility. That is , that the "code of conduct" thing that got him fired was related to his snooping of home. I just feel that is not all.

I posed questions about what exactly CC did for JMM. I hoped folks here could dig and find more information. I can't tell you, I'm Sorry.

I will come back to CC's elaborate "stalker/angry person" threats. That was his Alibi, right? Why would he expect anyone to believe such drama unless he was in fact doing something that would seriously anger people. You tell me what.

If you see JMM bring forth counsel to respond to further questions then you will know that I am right

I'd venture a guess that the situation between Meyer and Coleman has already gone adversarial.

As to what his employment was with her, he was her bodyguard and worked the night shift ... I think it was security for the family compound.
 
I would bet that the JMM compound had cameras too. Is it possible that CC was sending feeds from the compound back to his home?

possible .. it seems logical he was "spying" on someone and they knew it .. and told him to stop

I know .. I'm in the minority thinking he didn't harm his family

But .. if there was a great expose of sorts Coleman had on this person, it could escalate into some serious retaliation

,,,it's late ..thinking cap is on empty <g>
 
Me either I believe CC did it IMO.I think there might be more going on behind the scenes because if you call in MCS and they feel they have the goods on CC and IMO they were waiting on his block for the warrant to arrest him, Why call in the experts if your not going to listen to them.

Now that the States Attorney has the case we are dealing with a whole new set of politics. Hopefully he is making sure the case is as air tight as possible before CC's lawyer gets a hold of it. As long as CC is not charged thay do not have to share any evidence with him. After CC is charged they have to lay it all on the table.
 
We can speculate there was abuse in the home, but I haven't heard anyone who knew them voice this opinion. As a couple, they were active with the boys, the church, and the community. I would expect people to be coming out of the woodwork to tell tales of suspected abuse from Chris be it mental, verbal, or physical. We don't know he controlled Sheri. I wish someone who interacted with them on a regular basis would talk and fill in some details.

While I do appreciate what you went through and what you are saying, we do not have any indication anything of the sort was happening with Sheri and Chris. We know things were not perfect with the affair and other things going on inside the home, but I am not ready to characterize it as abuse yet.

Sheri was not being controlled to the point of no friends, not being allowed to talk to her family, or where others in the community noticed problems evidently. There are signs even in a family where no one speaks about it and the abuse isn't done out in the open. Someone would have seen something or Sheri would have said something to a close friend/confidant.

So everyone agreed they know my personal life and what I have lived through?! :eek: I don't think so.

What financial facts do we have? The house and cars were in his name? She signed the house over as far as we know, but we have only speculation about her reason to do so. Was she allowed to go shopping? Was she allowed to have her own credit cards and bank account?

Sheri was a trained soldier and even tho her scum of a husband cheated on her, I am not sure she was the type to allow him to walk all over her
. It could be why she was murdered. Just sayin...

Maybe you are missing MY point. ;)

(Intermission)

Welcome to WS, Firelion~ I go take a nap and have to read a novel before I am caught up again. They move fast around here. LOL

I can't wait until all of Chris Coleman's skeletons and patterns emerge in this case. He will probably turn out just as you stated...classically narcissistic. No different than Drew P., Scott P., Craig Stebic, etc.
(It would be great if we could stamp tats on their foreheads before their wives end up missing or dead that says, "WARNING-🤬🤬🤬 INSIDE".)

Go you x 2!! :)

I knew the classic symptoms before my nap. I have been studying these @sswipes for a very long time now. This isn't something new to me.

I am not amused. :furious:

(bbm) Oh, okay, no worries. I was wondering why it took so much effort to persuade you earlier, that's all. :)

:parrot:
 
When my ex re-fi'd, I only found out it was going to be in his name when the official papers came in. I did not have to sign a quit claim. My name is not on the mortgage, but it is on the deed. I agree with one poster who stated it may be a state to state thing. I just signed what I needed to sign.

As for CC's, because I was a homemaker, I had no choice but to use ex's income to get credit cards.

If you live in a community property state and you didn't sign a quit claim and you were married, then you could have been entitled to a survivorship had he passed away. If you are in a non-community property state, you don't have to quit claim anything.
 
But, it's easy enough to get that 50 percent through fraud. It's very scary how easy this can be done. No proof that that is what happened here, even though the removal of the name is curious.

It seems that there would be some law that would keep CC from profiting from Sheri's murder if/when he is found guilty. I'm sure that money is the last on her family's mind... its just the principle of it! Grrrrr...

It would be interesting to know if either one had met with any divorce lawyer's recently.
 
We know that CC was hauled of in an ambulance about 8:30 in the morning.
Also that he was questioned by LE for approximately 7 hours. I am assuming that the questioning was before he hired an attorney.

If he was treated at the hospital or wherever the ambulance took him, I am thinking that the only treatment would be have been sedated. If he was sedated, how would that affect whatever statement CC gave LE? Legally speaking of course.

I think CC did it and will be caught but having been sedated might give his defense something to chip away at. Perhaps it was part of the plan.

Any thoughts?
 
Analytical,



I posed questions about what exactly CC did for JMM. I hoped folks here could dig and find more information. I can't tell you, I'm Sorry.

Originally about 11 years ago CC was hired as a personal body gard for JM. This included extensive travel. What he had done more recently, I could only speculate. His original salary was about 75K per year. I believe it was hid first job upon leaving the Marine Corps. I do know that at one time in the Marines he was a guard at Marine 1 for then President Clinton.
 
Okay, I see the whole deed thing has been wonderfully researched. Someday I'll start finishing a thread before commenting on posts :crazy:

So now I'm back to wondering about the JM issues...This is all so surreal to me as I've know a few kind Christian ladies who state they've been encouraged and blessed by her ministry. I watched her once on a cable channel and she didn't appear to be crazy...just a bit boring IMO. I'm never happy to see any organization show corruption, greed and wrongdoings in the name of God. This is not pleasing to God at all!
 
We know that CC was hauled of in an ambulance about 8:30 in the morning.
Also that he was questioned by LE for approximately 7 hours. I am assuming that the questioning was before he hired an attorney.

If he was treated at the hospital or wherever the ambulance took him, I am thinking that the only treatment would be have been sedated. If he was sedated, how would that affect whatever statement CC gave LE? Legally speaking of course.

I think CC did it and will be caught but having been sedated might give his defense something to chip away at. Perhaps it was part of the plan.

Any thoughts?

I was just wondering about the whole sedation issue as well. It really looks like LE handled this case carefully from the start so I think that defense counsel is going to have to look very hard to find any kind of LE procedural error. But I haven't watched many cases this closely.

I'm not exactly sure at what point CC attained counsel. It is my understanding that CC contacted JM after the police "found" the bodies and JM was at the scene to comfort the neighbors as well as CC. I believe that it was at that point or shortly after that JM hooked CC up with his lawyers.

Here's an article that discusses the whole fingerprint drama and CC's lawyer(s)... Even has a nice little picture of the them. Margulis looks like a rat fink @#!$#^ if I ever saw one, and I would just love to smack that ^**(*( smirk off of CC's face.
 
So much for privacy.

So, are we getting a forum? This is a cluster&@#$
Heh, heh..... no silly, an antique commode is actually a wooden dresser type thing like you see in some old westerns. It usually has a ceramic pitcher and bowl for washing your face, etc. Some have a towel bar and some have a mirror and the hotel commodes have both. It isn't a toilet like you are probably thinking.
:blowkiss:
 
top of the day everyone. I wonder if today will be the day for some justice? Here's to hopeful thinking (nurse raises coffee cup in gesture)
 
top of the day everyone. I wonder if today will be the day for some justice? Here's to hopeful thinking (nurse raises coffee cup in gesture)
Here's to hoping right along with you!!

(TCO raising her butt from her desk chair to go get some much needed sleep now. No more coffee for me!!)
 
Hello Pres101,

Just so that we might keep the record a bit straight -- it really is good for us to blow away things that really have no good resource for that which would otherwise be important information. In [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3755098&postcount=1095"]post #1095 of this thread[/ame], I pointed out that we have nothing to substantiate Chris being interviewed for 7 hours (no newspaper article, no "reasonable" rumor source -- I have yet to see it printed or to see who might have printed it as someone who might have been "in the know" -- how reliable are they?)

Yes, Chris was interviewed, that we have proof of from the investigators (newspapers, videos) -- we have nothing proven to us that this interview was more than a few minutes, or any specific length of time, and we certainly have nothing at all to prove that it was 7 hours. An interview of that length would be important information -- but no one has substantiated that at all. Submitting to a 7 hour interview would seem a "good thing" -- and we haven't seen that type of thing from Chris have we?

You bring up a VERY good point... One I wondered about and one I'm still brainstorming. Chris managed to get himself carted off in an ambulance (correct, about 8:30AM per a neighbor who witnessed). Now then...I might guess that this "flailing your way to an ambulance" was a part of a plan. So, which hospital or clinic was he taken to and how long was he there? AND what treatment did he receive?

Your mention of sedation of some sort seems spot on to me -- I thought of that, "Please sedate me, my family was murdered." On the other hand...I mentioned that I think the flailing might have been to damage a hand (which might have first been damaged when breaking someone's jaw maybe? -- that was mentioned by two people who said they heard it at the viewing/funeral -- i.e. Sheri's jaw was broken, heard from Chris supposedly, heard from his mom supposedly) or develope a rash (as in maybe he developed a rash while using a product to remove spray paint from his skin -- a rash from flailing on grass would be convenient -- i.e. "Oh I must have gotten this rash/abrasions from flailing on concrete/grass) or ...

We really don't know "what" was on Chris' body at the time of examination AND did the police examine him? Or did those in the hospital/clinic do so at LE's request AND did Chris permit, voluntarily? Who attended him to the ER?

And about that sedation -- if a person were sedated, could they then say -- "I have been sedated, I can't think straight, I need to sleep, can we do this interview, say, later after I get a criminal defense attorney and think about my alibi a little bit further first?"

Maybe, if that ambulance ride was a part of the plan at any point in time, the sedation and possible flailing was all a part of it.

As for assuming about the attorney (interview before attorney or not?) -- I don't know that we can assume that can we?

We know that CC was hauled of in an ambulance about 8:30 in the morning. Also that he was questioned by LE for approximately 7 hours. I am assuming that the questioning was before he hired an attorney.

If he was treated at the hospital or wherever the ambulance took him, I am thinking that the only treatment would be have been sedated. If he was sedated, how would that affect whatever statement CC gave LE? Legally speaking of course.

I think CC did it and will be caught but having been sedated might give his defense something to chip away at. Perhaps it was part of the plan.

Any thoughts?

Pres101, can you remind me of something? Do I recall you saying that you knew Chris at one time? If so, do you know if he was a lefty, righty, or ambidextrous? Did you ever play baseball with him?

Me thinks that the broken jaw, if Sheri had one and that turns out to be a fact in the autopsy, might point to whether it was inflicted by a right/left handed person.

W
 
Greetings Analytical,

It's obvious that is Mario's MySpace page. His photo is one of him and Garret and Gavin and he makes appeals all over his page for information and Sheri has made comments on his page, her photo is there.

Furthermore, how could he manufacture responses from Sheri on his page in April prior to her death?

It's the "real" Mario, Sheri's brother.

Yes... If there were any one sure thing, it would be the response from Sheri -- I completely missed that (UGH), thanks for pointing it out.

In the meanwhile...I "hope" that some of Sheri's friends are contacting him if for no other reason but to let him know how much they cared for her and to let him know that they will be contacting LE with information.

If I were him, I would be desperate for information and anything else I could do to help find the murderer of my sister and nephews.

W
 
Hello Chicana, good to see you :blowkiss:

You're brilliant.

Wow...thanks for the complement -- I hadn't seen your response until now. I really thought that I was banging on all 8 cylinders with that revelation about the flailing. I could be wrong, have been before -- but I keep going back to that. There was something more to that flailing than meets the original eye, and I sure as heck hope that LE caught it and followed up.

W
 
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