Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

[Bluenotes]

It is cool! The river was crazy big back then. Back to the Koch property - which would have been near where they went down to find the tossed evidence. Does the City still own that property? Or has it been sold? Looks like there is a house on it. I haven't been down that way in a couple of months; but don't recall if it looks overgrown with weeds and stuff; or if they started developing it.

On the south side of 255 is a bunch of companies; and believe it or not there is a food service company housed in a cave!!! Can't remember the name, used to be a customer of mine.

I'll be in Columbia this weekend, I will have to check it out. Kuna Meat on Koch Rd. is the food service business you're talking about.

 

[mikeysmommom]

I'll give you that...at least in the beginning of a case.
As I said before, I have seen it where many posters immediately suspect parents, etc, due to past cases, but that does not usually last when facts trickle out. And, at this stage of the game with a crime like this I have never seen the majority of seasoned posters be wrong.
Yes, some posters jump to conclusions based on faulty assumptions, or, as you have seemed to infer in other posts, based on emotion, a sense of wanting to be part of a group, or from a place of anger or suspicion, rather than logic.
Yet, they are not the majority at websleuths. Most of the posters here are seasoned true crime researchers or amatuer sleuths or people with some connection to crime, such as those with law enforcement connections, search and rescue connections, missing persons or missing children's group memberships, crime victims, victim advocates, lawyers, paralegals, bounty hunters, etc. People on here do ALOT of work researching, investigating and actually solving real crimes, not just sitting at a computer and bantering with anonymous others.
Webslueths has a great reputation. LE have been on this site, participating, so have people like Mark Klaas, true crime writers, etc. Most of us approach these cases with logic, knowledge and experience. Thus, it begins to be wearing when a person joins the site, tells all that we are operating with illogic and that our conclusions are founded in faulty assumptions or on nothing more than suspicion, emotion and sinister mind sets and yet brings nothing much to the table him or herself that shows us our logic is completely faulty.
Look, there is often debate on websleuths. It makes it fun and it can help solve cases. Further, there is always the chance that the majority is wrong about the major issues as to guilt or innocence. Not much of a chance IMO in this case, especially when certain seasoned sleuthers have examined it and have essentially come to the same conclusions as the majority, but I respect that the majority could be proven wrong.
Nevertheless, based on the vast experience and intelligence at WS it can feel insulting when it is inferred that we are not canny enough to think independently from our own biases or when our collective experience is dismissed.
Plainly, experience -knowledge about human behavior, criminal behavioral patterns,crime scenes, crimes and good ol' gut instinct - is a huge, huge part of what great investigators use to solve cases. IMO, this is a pretty special website with some pretty incredible people working very hard to reduce crime and put the bad guys away.
So, I myself tend to truly respect the insights and experience of its members or at least consider that there is some basis in logic to what people are concluding, rather than thinking that people are too clouded with assumptions and biases to see the truth.
My two cents.

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Stella5]

I'll be in Columbia this weekend, I will have to check it out. Kuna Meat on Koch Rd. is the food service business you're talking about.

THANK YOU!!! It's been driving me crazy! I always thought Koch was on the opposite side of the bridge - duh! - now I know I was driving through/near it going to Kuna on Bussen Underground Rd.

 

[mikeysmommom]

I'll be in Columbia this weekend, I will have to check it out. Kuna Meat on Koch Rd. is the food service business you're talking about.

Blue bring a camera just in case an arrest is made............I know wish full thinking.

 

[Stella5]

I'll be in Columbia this weekend, I will have to check it out. Kuna Meat on Koch Rd. is the food service business you're talking about.

Oh and you're elected to go take neighborhood pictures, lol!

I just don't think I could bring myself to do it. I was in Orlando over Easter and couldn't bring myself to go by the Caylee memorial.

 

[Stella5]

It must be driving those terrific MCS guys crazy that he was not arrested.They had to see an awe full crime scene.

Could you imagine walking into a scene like that? How would you ever get that sight out of your head & heart. Those poor beautiful boys. I really hope they had no clue that CC killed their mother or them... doubtful that could be true, but it makes me feel better.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Oh and you're elected to go take neighborhood pictures, lol!

I just don't think I could bring myself to do it. I was in Orlando over Easter and couldn't bring myself to go by the Caylee memorial.

LOL I just meant if he happened to pass by while they were cuffing CC.

 

[chestergal]

I'll be in Columbia this weekend, I will have to check it out. Kuna Meat on Koch Rd. is the food service business you're talking about.

Did you ever go into the vacated hospital?

Do post if to go that way and let us know what the area is like these days - take your digital with you, please and take some shots. I heard the old hospital grounds are chained linked in now, but there is plenty of place to toss something there.

I go that way often but the hubby is always with me and I can never get him to drive off the beaten path.

 

[Stella5]

Could one of those warrant be an arrest warrant?Maybe tomorrow they will arrest him.

I wish it was an arrest warrant, but weren't they reported as search warrants? I'm guessing they either want to search CC's parents house to look for something he took out of the house... or they could want back in the house to look for something that may have presented itself during forensics or tox reports.

OT: I bet GA & CA are thrilled KC is no longer on NG night after night.

 

[Stella5]

LOL I just meant if he happened to pass by while they were cuffing CC.

LOL we must have been posting at the same time, cause I didn't see your post to Blue. I just don't want to go there yet; too upsetting and I didn't even know them.

 

[Stella5]

Did you ever go into the vacated hospital?

Do post if to go that way and let us know what the area is like these days - take your digital with you, please and take some shots. I heard the old hospital grounds are chained linked in now, but there is plenty of place to toss something there.

I go that way often but the hubby is always with me and I can never get him to drive off the beaten path.

Do you think he may have gotten off there to toss stuff into the hospital grounds? FWIW in my experience going down Bussen & Koch there is usually a lot of dump-type trucks, concrete trucks & delivery trucks... it's not quiet at all. And some of the roads are still gravel, so your vehicle gets quite dusty.

I'll take pics that way for you too when I go either tomorrow or Sunday.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Could you imagine walking into a scene like that? How would you ever get that sight out of your head & heart. Those poor beautiful boys. I really hope they had no clue that CC killed their mother or them... doubtful that could be true, but it makes me feel better.

I could never do It would crush me. I have a lot of respect for the men and woman who can do this kind of job.I hope they were all drugged and did not know anything.It is all so horrific if I live to be a hundred I will never be able to understand that level of evil.

 

[Bluenotes]

LOL we must have been posting at the same time, cause I didn't see your post to Blue. I just don't want to go there yet; too upsetting and I didn't even know them.

Yeah, I don't really know anyone that lives on that side of town, I'd feel weird going over there. Besides, I'm sure the neighborhood is tired of people driving through.

 

[mikeysmommom]

I wish it was an arrest warrant, but weren't they reported as search warrants? I'm guessing they either want to search CC's parents house to look for something he took out of the house... or they could want back in the house to look for something that may have presented itself during forensics or tox reports.

OT: I bet GA & CA are thrilled KC is no longer on NG night after night.

Funny I was thinking about that tonight no tot mom news.Thank God LOL

 

[Bluenotes]

Oh and you're elected to go take neighborhood pictures, lol!

I just don't think I could bring myself to do it. I was in Orlando over Easter and couldn't bring myself to go by the Caylee memorial.

Unfortunately, we left our camera cord in the hotel on vacation. We called to see if it was there, but it wasn't. I don't have a way to charge the camera until our new one comes in the mail.

 

[Stella5]

Yeah, I don't really know anyone that lives on that side of town, I'd feel weird going over there. Besides, I'm sure the neighborhood is tired of people driving through.

Can't blame you one bit. I would guess they have had an increase in traffic here lately, it's a real shame. Honestly at 3 a.m.; didn't even think of that and how disrespectful it would be... so never mind. I thought better of it. :blowkiss:

 

[mikeysmommom]

Yeah, I don't really know anyone that lives on that side of town, I'd feel weird going over there. Besides, I'm sure the neighborhood is tired of people driving through.

I just was kidding if you should happen to pass a lot of police cars and happen to see CC getting the cuffs slapped on to snap a pic

 

[Stella5]

Unfortunately, we left our camera cord in the hotel on vacation. We called to see if it was there, but it wasn't. I don't have a way to charge the camera until our new one comes in the mail.

Oh bummer! Hopefully it'll come soon.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Time to try to sleep.............Good night fellow night owls LOL

 

[Bluenotes]

I just was kidding if you should happen to pass a lot of police cars and happen to see CC getting the cuffs slapped on to snap a pic

Oh, I know. Won't be able to snap a pic, but I would definitely stop and cheer!