Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt4

[TallCoolOne]

Okay thanks so much Chestergal...
so we can finally rule out the whole zip-tie discussion and the deed is a non-issue.

Sounds like we have here a messy monster murderer who thought he was so much smarter than everyone and he is going down.

Yeppers, one of way too many.

 

[Stella5]

OT
For all of those having IE problems.
I installed the new IE 8 last week. Fixed a lot of my problems. PLUS, has a lot of new add-ons.
No need to remove the old, it overwrites. It does take a little time, away from the board.

That's what I have and it worked great for weeks until about 4 days ago... now hangs on EVERYTHING!!! It is faster and more productive, just hanging now but I'm thinking it has more to do with teenage boys using my laptop than IE itself ;-)

 

[analytical]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175657&catid=3

DVD and glove mentioned here

 

[cleo612]

This man was a Marine, trained in MP duties and formerly worked for the Secret Service (links to this information previously posted in this thread earlier). He knew/learned many techniques of how to control a person, even to the point of causing their deaths.

It has been rumored that Sheri's jaw was broken. It would not surprise me one bit to find out that her neck was broken, as well.

 

[Carrington]

I took it that he got ticked that she was bringing the talk back around to the girlfriend; and he didn't quite word it correctly. That they haven't brought charges yet, and what are they waiting for and that's what they should be talking about... not talking about the girlfriend.

Ticked me off, I wanted to hear about the GF.
IMO

 

[kiki the parrot]

Working nights, I would think he didn't break-up his time to sleep pattern.
It's hard to be a day and night sleeper. He more than likely was up or out on the town till at least 2:30.

(respectfully snipped) Initially it was reported CC worked nights and had gone to gym after his night shift. Then subsequently reported he did not work his shift the night in question which has now been confirmed... correct (anyone)?

arrot:

 

[6angels]

sorry I have missed the last few days. What did the news say today?

 

[analytical]

(respectfully snipped) Initially it was reported CC worked nights and had gone to gym after his night shift. Then subsequently reported he did not work his shift the night in question which has been confirmed now correct (anyone)?

arrot:

Kiki,

I posted from a link today that Connor, head of MCS, stated Coleman had not been working that night so Connor's statement should be accurate.

 

[Carrington]

(respectfully snipped) Initially it was reported CC worked nights and had gone to gym after his night shift. Subsequently tho it was reported he did not work his shift the night in question which has been confirmed now correct (anyone)?

arrot:

Yes confirmed, DID NOT.
The reason he wasn't working has not been disclosed.
Wonder if that night (MON) would be his off night, and he normally worked week-ends? 5 day or 6 day shift?

 

[panthera]

This man was a Marine, trained in MP duties and formerly worked for the Secret Service (links to this information previously posted in this thread earlier). He knew/learned many techniques of how to control a person, even to the point of causing their deaths.

It has been rumored that Sheri's jaw was broken. It would not surprise me one bit to find out that her neck was broken, as well.

Exactly. It would be quite easy for him to commit all three murders in a short time without having any defensive injuries to himself. And this method (strangulation) would be more common with someone who personally knew the victims than a stranger would use. MOO

 

[Texas Mist]

Thank you! That is one I was looking for. There was a lot of speculation on here, and elsewhere that was quoted here by what it meant. IMO it's awfully strange the resignation did take place the day after the girlfriend was brought to light; as well as the day after MCS said they knew who committed this crime.

I can't figure why they need to make another statement saying he resigned because of "violation of moral conduct".....is LE asking them to tighten the screws?

Is this their way of repairing potential PR damage?

And is it legal in the state of IL to talk about employee matters such as this? Or just generally not advisable to be so public about why an employee is no longer employed.(?)

I've worn a lotta hats at various jobs & when doing HR work, was only allowed to say start date, end date & confirm a salary....period.

 

[Stella5]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175657&catid=3

DVD and glove mentioned here

Analytical,

I am really just curious. Earlier milopede, or whomever (can't remember exact - my house is too distracting) posted a poll on one thing from us that leads us to believe CC is guilty.

I'm not going to pin you down to one thing, but I would like to know from all that we do know - not conjecture, not suspicions, not your "hinkey-meter"... from the little evidence that we do have, why you think CC is innocent?

I'd love to believe he is innocent and he didn't kill his entire family, but everything IMO is pointing to CC. Thanks in advance!

 

[pferrin]

I think I missed something..where does it say he worked for Secret Service? Does anyone have a link. Thanks in advance.

 

[analytical]

I can't figure why they need to make another statement saying he resigned because of "violation of moral conduct".....is LE asking them to tighten the screws?

Is this their way of repairing potential PR damage?

And is it legal in the state of IL to talk about employee matters such as this? Or just generally not advisable to be so public about why an employee is no longer employed.(?)

I've worn a lotta hats at various jobs & when doing HR work, was only allowed to say start date, end date & confirm a salary....period.

As a ministry, I'd think JMM went one step further in their statement because not addressing the g/f issue would open them up to scrutiny and criticism that a secular employer would not face.

 

[Stella5]

I can't figure why they need to make another statement saying he resigned because of "violation of moral conduct".....is LE asking them to tighten the screws?

Is this their way of repairing potential PR damage?

And is it legal in the state of IL to talk about employee matters such as this? Or just generally not advisable to be so public about why an employee is no longer employed.(?)

I've worn a lotta hats at various jobs & when doing HR work, was only allowed to say start date, end date & confirm a salary....period.

Just a guess, but I'm sure JMM is getting a lot of bad publicity out of this. She's controversial to begin with, and now her organization is connected to this crime through CC saying these threats were targeted at him because of his connection to JMM. I see them trying to place a huge division between their organization and CC. If they're reading these boards, I'm sure they've seen people say they must be in on this, etc... (i don't believe that) so they want to distance themselves as far away from CC as they can at this point.

BTW JMM is in MO and it's illegal in MO to state more than a start date & end date. You cannot tell anything about a previous employee, but I guess they don't care about that right now.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Got a little laugh out of this comment

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story

/82959BCFC0B27305862575BA007A1BAB?OpenDocument#tp_newCommentAnchor
K-Mac May 18, 2009 8:26PM CST
Heard he sprayed paint - JMM is a she-devil - on the wall in red spray paint.

 

[Stella5]

Connors statement on NG (from last week, played tonight going to break)... "We are no longer following him, it was obvious we were following him for about a day, uh, that was just we were concluding the investigation and we just wanted to know his whereabouts in case, uh, we needed to (big pause here) further the investigation with him.

Anybody care to read between the lines here?

 

[LawRig]

All of you won't believe how incredibly stupid CC really is when the facts come out.

I thank you ...and I agree

jmo - I thought it was all fairly obvious before all the discussions, threads news releases and so on...

>>>set it up , do it, stage it, arrange the evidence to be found by someone else and pretend you are innocent.....

motive is too obvious to overlook
the timeline, evidence just adds to the original supposition

this is a poor rendition of Scott a la Peterson
people amaze me at the ability to overlook the obvious.......

it turns my stomach to look at this mans face knowing he did what he did, and whom he did it to.......

"there is nothing new under the sun"

and its usually the most obvious that is the reality

 

[panthera]

Connors statement on NG (from last week, played tonight going to break)... "We are no longer following him, it was obvious we were following him for about a day, uh, that was just we were concluding the investigation and we just wanted to know his whereabouts in case, uh, we needed to (big pause here) further the investigation with him.

Anybody care to read between the lines here?

Maybe a GPS device has been installed on his car now and they don't need to "follow him"? :waitasec:

 

[Texas Mist]

I think I missed something..where does it say he worked for Secret Service? Does anyone have a link. Thanks in advance.

here's a link to the most comprehensive info I have...doesn't mention SS...I think maybe analytical found that somewhere?

http://www.individual.com/story.php?story=100740367