Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt6

[SeriouslySearching]

Now I am curious....how much did you rake in for that one night, Rosie?! LOL I may need to consider a night job soon. WS isn't paying enough. hehehe

Originally Posted by WholeLottaRosie
Makes me think of the old adage, if you hang around a barber shop long enough you'll get a hair cut.

True confession time, kids. When Rosie was a younger lass, I got hired at a Gentleman's Club, and a really classy one to boot, as a cocktail waitress. I heard you could make more money waitressing in a GC than a regular bar. THE VERY FIRST NIGHT I began getting big pressure to dance. That was my only night there as I long ago resolved never to do anything I couldn't tell my Mama about. But, it was an interesting evening all the same.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I am not knocking strippers! They have to eat, too.

I am only concerned about this particular one who feels it is OK to step into her best friend's marriage, screw her husband, make plans to marry him, and has no problem doing any of the above!! She has the morals of an alley cat and working at a strip club is just another side of her personality.

I have no doubt she knew he was currently married with children. I guess Chris took care of that problem. Could be with her knowledge for all we know! It has been rumored he did call her right before he went back to the house after the call for a welfare check. So...what did he say?!

Posted as a Devil's Advocate... What if she only went by CC told her and she believed CC??? I do not believe she was part of this murder, however, I do think she may have been led by lies by CC. Perhaps that is one of the reasons she has been so quiet. Is it not possible LE, et al, have requested she do that for this case?

 

[mikeysmommom]

Well...Miss Motive didn't appear to be all that "churchy" in the photo I believe is her at the Tampa strip club. I guess some would call her a "temptation", but it appears most call her "Treasure". (It could turn out that "Treasure Hunter" could be more appropriate in this case, imo.)

Then the Toxicology results should be very interesting. It would have given him the perfect opportunity to drug them all.

My first thought too! Lesson if hubby never cooks and on his own wants to make the family dinner......................take the kidz and run as fast as you can

 

[analytical]

Conflicting reports about the caskets:

posters on PD call "hopefortommorrow" a credible poster from Chicago .. can't recall if she is family of Sheri's or friends of the family

lajr56 May 22, 2009 1:42PM CST
Also, hopefortomorrow (as much as she is NOT a cc supporter) stated that she attended the funerals in Chicago.

She stated that there were no signs of facial trauma. In fact, I think she stated that they all looked like 'peaceful angels in there coffins'.

That is not to say that a good mortician cannot hide those things.

So in my mind, whether or not she/they were beaten remains to be seen.

 

[mikeysmommom]

ROFL. Sounds like an interesting story there.

It sounds like Mrs.Adnoid is a sleuther also.LOL

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Now I am curious....how much did you rake in for that one night, Rosie?! LOL I may need to consider a night job soon. WS isn't paying enough. hehehe

I actually walked out with over 200 dollars after giving to pot for dj and bartender. Which was a lot of money for a college student back in the late 70's. Don't think I didn't have to think a bit on it. The dancers made a LOT more. LOL Luckily, I found another job, and did okay.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Miss Motive was making plans to marry her BEST FRIEND'S husband.

There is an unspoken, unwritten rule among women. We do not sleep with, date, or marry a man that our friends have a crush on, are in love with, have ever been in love with, or could possibly fall in love with in the future. They are OFF LIMITS.

 

[Stella5]

"Sources said Baden looked over the autopsies in the Coleman case and would be willing to testify to the fact the time of death for the victims was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m., which would put Chris Coleman at home at the time of the murders. This was just the final piece in a complex array of evidence that allowed prosecutors to move forward with charges." (source ksdk.com)

Let's read between the lines of Baden's statement that TOD was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m. IMO he's stating that TOD happened before 3 a.m.; as they have determined through autopsy and all the testing that comes along with them. IMO the statement no later than 5 a.m. was due to the fact that CC first stated he left the residence at 5:30; and this was Badens way of letting the SA & us know CC was at home when TOD occurred.

So let's suppose that "most likely before 3 a.m." is in fact true. That gives him almost 2 1/2 - 3 hours to stage the scene before leaving the house. We've heard the painting was overdone. WTH else was he doing in the house for 3 hours with his 3 dead family members? Or did he leave sometime between TOD & 5:43 to get paint?

 

[waterlooinspector]

Okay FWIW, I'm going to attempt to clear up the "hostess" issue at Strip Clubs. Yes I've been to one for my BMF's bachelor party and it wasn't a sleezy joint, it was a "Gentlemen's Club". Upscale, not like the Hustler Club or east side strip joints here in STL.

There are two types of entertainers at these clubs. Those on stage that do their thing, aka strippers. And those that wander around the room serving drinks and offering *other services* - these are the Hostesses. Their job is to entertain the men and get the men to spend their money on drinks, lap dances, and other things that require private rooms.

It's not like walking into Outback and having the hostess ask you how many are in your party. These places are in business to make money and having a woman at the cash register isn't taking in any revenue, that's why the bouncers are up front because the men definitely are not there to see them.

Maybe I missed this...but I wonder if CC knew that Miss Motive was working as a greeter, or whatever...at this Gentlemens Club?

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Miss Motive was making plans to marry her BEST FRIEND'S husband.

There is an unspoken, unwritten rule among women. We do not sleep with, date, or marry a man that our friends have a crush on, are in love with, have ever been in love with, or could possibly fall in love with in the future. They are OFF LIMITS.

EXACTLY. Among decent women.

 

[Texas Mist]

My first thought too! Lesson if hubby never cooks and on his own wants to make the family dinner......................take the kidz and run as fast as you can

especially if he recently talked you into taking your name off the deed to the house - for whatever reason.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I actually walked out with over 200 dollars after giving to pot for dj and bartender. Which was a lot of money for a college student back in the late 70's. Don't think I didn't have to think a bit on it. The dancers made a LOT more. LOL Luckily, I found another job, and did okay.

Dayum!!

Hmmmm...looking up GC's in our area. Oh wait...guess they only hire those 20something women, huh?! Another lost career opportunity. :bang: ROFLMAO

 

[mck16]

"Sources said Baden looked over the autopsies in the Coleman case and would be willing to testify to the fact the time of death for the victims was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m., which would put Chris Coleman at home at the time of the murders. This was just the final piece in a complex array of evidence that allowed prosecutors to move forward with charges." (source ksdk.com)

Let's read between the lines of Baden's statement that TOD was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m. IMO he's stating that TOD happened before 3 a.m.; as they have determined through autopsy and all the testing that comes along with them. IMO the statement no later than 5 a.m. was due to the fact that CC first stated he left the residence at 5:30; and this was Badens way of letting the SA & us know CC was at home when TOD occurred.

So let's suppose that "most likely before 3 a.m." is in fact true. That gives him almost 2 1/2 - 3 hours to stage the scene before leaving the house. We've heard the painting was overdone. WTH else was he doing in the house for 3 hours with his 3 dead family members? Or did he leave sometime between TOD & 5:43 to get paint?

I believe and please correct me if I am wrong on NG's show Dr. Perperer (sp) disagreed with Biden's statement. Don't know if it was tod or something else. IIMO

 

[Stella5]

Seriously? I thought they just liked me. I'm devastated.

To be honest, I haven't been in one of those in at least 15 years. I always felt that the girls dancing were looking out at all these guys with drinks in their hands staring at their squishy bits and just hated them all, not that I blame them. I'm probably wrong, but that's how I felt and I wasn't comfortable being a part of it.

ROFL!!! I'm sure they did like you adnoid ;-)

Can't say that I was too impressed, or really got what the attraction is all about. I understand men are visual creatures, but I still just don't get it.

 

[Texas Mist]

"Sources said Baden looked over the autopsies in the Coleman case and would be willing to testify to the fact the time of death for the victims was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m., which would put Chris Coleman at home at the time of the murders. This was just the final piece in a complex array of evidence that allowed prosecutors to move forward with charges." (source ksdk.com)

Let's read between the lines of Baden's statement that TOD was most likely before 3 a.m. and no later than 5 a.m. IMO he's stating that TOD happened before 3 a.m.; as they have determined through autopsy and all the testing that comes along with them. IMO the statement no later than 5 a.m. was due to the fact that CC first stated he left the residence at 5:30; and this was Badens way of letting the SA & us know CC was at home when TOD occurred.

So let's suppose that "most likely before 3 a.m." is in fact true. That gives him almost 2 1/2 - 3 hours to stage the scene before leaving the house. We've heard the painting was overdone. WTH else was he doing in the house for 3 hours with his 3 dead family members? Or did he leave sometime between TOD & 5:43 to get paint?

* deleting files from his 'puter ?
* removing the DVR ?
* calling g/f ?
* putting stuff in the neighbor's trash ?

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Dayum!!

Hmmmm...looking up GC's in our area. Oh wait...guess they only hire those 20something women, huh?! Another lost career opportunity. :bang: ROFLMAO

:Banane45:

Sadly, yes.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

Miss Motive was making plans to marry her BEST FRIEND'S husband.

There is an unspoken, unwritten rule among women. We do not sleep with, date, or marry a man that our friends have a crush on, are in love with, have ever been in love with, or could possibly fall in love with in the future. They are OFF LIMITS.

One thing I have been taught. There are no rules to what people choose to do for what rationalization the can they can make of it. At one time, what you state may have been a basic truth in our niave hopes/beliefs. I know, for myself, after spending time here that is not truth. As painful a smack on the side of the head it is. Sometimes, life education is a very hard pill to swallow. There truly are no rules. Just choices....

 

[analytical]

I believe and please correct me if I am wrong on NG's show Dr. Perperer (sp) disagreed with Biden's statement. Don't know if it was tod or something else. IIMO

He did .. I posted the transcript a few pages back .. let me go get the link..then I have to be off.

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Hope this helps -

Dr. Perper comments from NG
<snip>

COLEMAN: Well, we know that Chris Coleman says that he left for the gym at about 5:45 that morning. By the time police got there and discovered the bodies it was 7:00 a.m. So you`ve got a very narrow window of time. Now, Dr. Michael Baden, renowned forensic scientist has reportedly taken a look at the autopsy reports and he pinpoints that time of death between 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m.

GRACE: Back to renowned chief medical examiner out of Broward County, Dr. Joshua Perper. How did Baden do it, Dr. Perper.

PERPER: My understanding is there were no special tests done in this particular case such as the level of a chemical called potassium in the eye (ph) which helps with the exact determination of the time of death. I must say they think that Dr. Baden went on a leg here and this kind of determination within two hours is really highly questionable. However, all of the other circumstantial evidence certainly points to the father and the fact that he called the police the short time, but I think that the determination of the so-called postmortem clock is very wide and unreliable and to restrict it to two hours, I would say is highly questionable.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../21/ng.01.html

 

[Stella5]

I believe and please correct me if I am wrong on NG's show Dr. Perperer (sp) disagreed with Biden's statement. Don't know if it was tod or something else. IIMO

Yes he did, but what did he base his opinion on? He wasn't involved in the review of the autopsies so how could he possibly know what was done, what was determined and what they know from those exams and the results of them?

 

[mck16]

Yes he did, but what did he base his opinion on? He wasn't involved in the review of the autopsies so how could he possibly know what was done, what was determined and what they know from those exams and the results of them?

You know I wondered the same thing myself. But, didn't you think he was pretty adamant about it. I think he even said it more than once.