Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt6

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by Stella5
The rumor earlier was she already had Wedding invitations printed up! How true, who knows... but motive is all over that.

Originally posted by fmrchesterguy wow, and here I thought I had privileged information! This story has been repeated by CC's family. I couldn't tell you if it originated with them or not.

Originally posted by pres101
It is true. Wedding invitations were printed.

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
OK...drumroll please....the BIG question: What was the date?

Originally posted by pres101: Early 2010.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84367&page=2

No, Wrinkles...We were discussing the wedding invitations.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Since I have been posting here a lot - thought I would mention I have changed my user name from Medusa to WholeLottaRosie.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Since I have been posting here a lot - thought I would mention I have changed my user name from Medusa to WholeLottaRosie.

Awwww...I loved Medusa. (Glad you told us you changed!!) Mind if I just call you Rosie? :blowkiss:

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Awwww...I loved Medusa. (Glad you told us you changed!!) Mind if I just call you Rosie? :blowkiss:

I was kind of fond of Medusa as well, but, I came to realize that it was off putting to some, and really didn't fit me anymore. I picked it on the spur of the moment maybe 10 years ago for internet usage, and have pondered the change for some time now.

This morning just seemed like the time.

Sure call me Rosie - I am called that by many in real life and have been for years!:blowkiss:

 

[analytical]

Well...Miss Motive didn't appear to be all that "churchy" in the photo I believe is her at the Tampa strip club. I guess some would call her a "temptation", but it appears most call her "Treasure". (It could turn out that "Treasure Hunter" could be more appropriate in this case, imo.)

SS -- I think you're on a wild good chase with the stripper angle. On Topix, someone calling themselves "unknown" writes as if they are credible and know Tara. Thinking back, someone asked if they knew Tara personally and they said they did and made a rather long post.

And my gut just tells me the poster is credible.

These rumors about wedding invitations are bizarre. How much weight can be given to this?

 

[GolferChick]

Don't know if anyone saw this in the comments section of the latest story on the case in the St. Louis Post Dispatch...
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...26849B90C930EBAA862575BE0007BAAF?OpenDocument

May 22, 2009 12:30PM CST (Page 91 of posted comments)
At one of the updates, a reporter asked whether the family had been strangled by hand or ligature, and the guy nodded and said wire ligature. Also in a post on one of these articles, CC's mom told someone at the viewing that sheri had a broken jaw. In addition to her black eyes and facial scratches, that shows maybe they weren't drugged.Also, someone wondered why the trampoline was taken by the Colemans. There's a legal term for it that I can't remember, but it could prove to be an irresistable temptation for some kid to play on, and if he got hurt, his family could sue CC. So I think they may have taken it to avoid any neighbor kid getting hurt. This was before his arrest, remember.

May 22, 2009 9:25AM CST (Page 51 of Posted Comments)
Sheri DID put up a fight. I know the people who own the funeral home in Chester and they said she had 2 black eyes and scratches on her face.


Sheri fought back with all she had -- just breaks my heart.

 

[Texas Mist]

Don't know if anyone saw this in the comments section of the latest story on the case in the St. Louis Post Dispatch...
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...26849B90C930EBAA862575BE0007BAAF?OpenDocument

May 22, 2009 12:30PM CST (Page 91 of posted comments)
At one of the updates, a reporter asked whether the family had been strangled by hand or ligature, and the guy nodded and said wire ligature. Also in a post on one of these articles, CC's mom told someone at the viewing that sheri had a broken jaw. In addition to her black eyes and facial scratches, that shows maybe they weren't drugged.Also, someone wondered why the trampoline was taken by the Colemans. There's a legal term for it that I can't remember, but it could prove to be an irresistable temptation for some kid to play on, and if he got hurt, his family could sue CC. So I think they may have taken it to avoid any neighbor kid getting hurt. This was before his arrest, remember.

May 22, 2009 9:25AM CST (Page 51 of Posted Comments)
Sheri DID put up a fight. I know the people who own the funeral home in Chester and they said she had 2 black eyes and scratches on her face.


Sheri fought back with all she had -- just breaks my heart.

I saw those, GC...in fact, there's quite a few nuggets of info out there today...I hope that there are as many confirmable facts which can make it into court testimony.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Awww...so sad about Sheri's other injuries. Yes, it does sound like she was aware and did fight back. (sigh) The black eyes could come from a broken jaw and nose, but not sure if the strangulation could cause it. The facial scratches probably came as she was trying to remove the ligature. (I still wonder if there was a sexual assault.)

I knew they would come up with some grand excuse for the trampoline. It is funny that Chris never worried about being sued before with it sitting outside unattended and having no fence.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Don't know if anyone saw this in the comments section of the latest story on the case in the St. Louis Post Dispatch...
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...26849B90C930EBAA862575BE0007BAAF?OpenDocument

May 22, 2009 12:30PM CST (Page 91 of posted comments)
At one of the updates, a reporter asked whether the family had been strangled by hand or ligature, and the guy nodded and said wire ligature. Also in a post on one of these articles, CC's mom told someone at the viewing that sheri had a broken jaw. In addition to her black eyes and facial scratches, that shows maybe they weren't drugged.Also, someone wondered why the trampoline was taken by the Colemans. There's a legal term for it that I can't remember, but it could prove to be an irresistable temptation for some kid to play on, and if he got hurt, his family could sue CC. So I think they may have taken it to avoid any neighbor kid getting hurt. This was before his arrest, remember.

May 22, 2009 9:25AM CST (Page 51 of Posted Comments)
Sheri DID put up a fight. I know the people who own the funeral home in Chester and they said she had 2 black eyes and scratches on her face.


Sheri fought back with all she had -- just breaks my heart.

Wow. Words don't exist to describe how awful this is.

And as to the trampoline - F CC. I will refrain from any jokes about jumping on tramp-olines, but, it is amazing what he found time to worry about.

 

[Texas Mist]

Awww...so sad about Sheri's other injuries. Yes, it does sound like she was aware and did fight back. (sigh) The black eyes could come from a broken jaw and nose, but not sure if the strangulation could cause it. The facial scratches probably came as she was trying to remove the ligature. (I still wonder if there was a sexual assault.)

I knew they would come up with some grand excuse for the trampoline. It is funny that Chris never worried about being sued before with it sitting outside unattended and having no fence.

what a thing to be worried about when you're going to trial for FDM of your family & facing a WD suit.

a little bitta paranoia, perhaps? "they" are out to get him?

 

[Lindadanette]

Off Topic -
Melissa Huckaby charged with harming another girl
Posted: 02:00 PM ET
(CNN) — Melissa Huckaby, the former Sunday school teacher accused of kidnapping, raping and killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, will face additional charges that she tried to poison two people, including another 7-year-old girl.
A revised complaint against Huckaby, 28, of Tracy, California, was made public just hours before she was due back in a Stockton, California courtroom Friday.
It charged that Huckaby “did willfully and unlawfully mingle a harmful substance with food or drink” with the intent to harm the child, identified only as “Jane M. Doe.”
Another alleged poisoning victim was identified as Daniel Plowman, but no age or other information was immediately provided.
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/22/melissa-huckaby-charged-with-harming-another-girl-2/

On topic (sort of) - Three funnel clouds were seen moving over Largo about an hour ago. It just got really dark and there was a lot of lightning. I didn't even know - my sister called to make sure we were OK.

I had no sense of foreboding whatsoever. I wonder if Ms. Tara did. I know she was being discussed earlier - I still go back to the Myspace "mood" and emoticon. . .
It will be very interesting to find out when she last spoke with CC.

I am sick about Sheri - but don't you know, she must have let him know just what a scum dog he was before he murdered her - I sure hope so.

Does anyone still have that cache page to TL's myspace?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I still think it was just a reminder of the boys and he wanted it gone. He doesn't give a darn about lawsuits from the neighbors, imo. Did they break it down and set it inside the garage or did they take it away?

Linda~ Thanks so much for the update on Huckaby!! Gosh, so many cases the past two days are popping. Is it a full moon again?! WTH?!

 

[SuziQ]

Linda, that's right! Ms. Motive's mood was excited and now we hear about the invitations.

 

[analytical]

<snip>

COLEMAN: Well, we know that Chris Coleman says that he left for the gym at about 5:45 that morning. By the time police got there and discovered the bodies it was 7:00 a.m. So you`ve got a very narrow window of time. Now, Dr. Michael Baden, renowned forensic scientist has reportedly taken a look at the autopsy reports and he pinpoints that time of death between 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m.

GRACE: Back to renowned chief medical examiner out of Broward County, Dr. Joshua Perper. How did Baden do it, Dr. Perper.

PERPER: My understanding is there were no special tests done in this particular case such as the level of a chemical called potassium in the eye (ph) which helps with the exact determination of the time of death. I must say they think that Dr. Baden went on a leg here and this kind of determination within two hours is really highly questionable. However, all of the other circumstantial evidence certainly points to the father and the fact that he called the police the short time, but I think that the determination of the so-called postmortem clock is very wide and unreliable and to restrict it to two hours, I would say is highly questionable.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/21/ng.01.html

 

[pres101]

SS -- I think you're on a wild good chase with the stripper angle. On Topix, someone calling themselves "unknown" writes as if they are credible and know Tara. Thinking back, someone asked if they knew Tara personally and they said they did and made a rather long post.

And my gut just tells me the poster is credible.

These rumors about wedding invitations are bizarre. How much weight can be given to this?

Time will tell.

 

[SleuthyMama]

Couple things to say about the mistress. I am sure she knew CC was married with children. She was a friend of Sheri's originally so that should have been a given. We all have our own feelings on infidelity. I'm not here to fight that fight. I'm going to agree though with some previous posters who speculated that she may be living in a reality that CC created for her, ie, "bear with me baby, we're in the middle of a divorce but you and I gotta stay on the DL because she'll make it really hard for me and take everything I have." Or it could have even been "Well, we're getting these death threats and I'm worried about the kids but you know I don't sleep with her anymore blah blah blah." I could go on and on butd you all know the words to that song already.

She's involved in that her married lover killed his wife and children. I'm just not ready to throw her in prison too. ESPECIALLY if those stories re the wedding invites are true. That seems more like the actions of a person who is taking everything her married lover tells her as the "gospel truth." Pun intended.

 

[analytical]

Time will tell.

Guess I should have been more specific. I meant SS's attempt to match photos .. according to the person on Topix who claims they do know her, she is not a stripper but did work as a "hostess" at a gentleman's club. Seems they know her personally.. that's what I gather from reading the posts.

 

[Texas Mist]

<snip>

COLEMAN: Well, we know that Chris Coleman says that he left for the gym at about 5:45 that morning. By the time police got there and discovered the bodies it was 7:00 a.m. So you`ve got a very narrow window of time. Now, Dr. Michael Baden, renowned forensic scientist has reportedly taken a look at the autopsy reports and he pinpoints that time of death between 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m.

GRACE: Back to renowned chief medical examiner out of Broward County, Dr. Joshua Perper. How did Baden do it, Dr. Perper.

PERPER: My understanding is there were no special tests done in this particular case such as the level of a chemical called potassium in the eye (ph) which helps with the exact determination of the time of death. I must say they think that Dr. Baden went on a leg here and this kind of determination within two hours is really highly questionable. However, all of the other circumstantial evidence certainly points to the father and the fact that he called the police the short time, but I think that the determination of the so-called postmortem clock is very wide and unreliable and to restrict it to two hours, I would say is highly questionable.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/21/ng.01.html

I wonder what Perper's response would have been if Baden had said TOD estimated to be between 1a.m. & 6a.m. -- that's a 5 hour window.

 

[analytical]

Time will tell.

Pres,

Time will tell? Guess this would be part and parcel of the trial.

Is your source pretty reliable. Wedding invites .. geez!

 

[pres101]

FWIW, I do not believe (if the wedding invites are *totally true, which is possible) that the "fiancee" would be so stupid to plan a wedding if she was involved in this triple murder. If she planned along with CC, why would she implicate herself where CC tried his very best to make it look like a stalker stranger??? Makes no sense, imho.

I doubt that Miss Motive had any idea that CC was going to kill. All she knew was that the marriage would soon be over.