Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt7

[mikeysmommom]

I agree!!

I have to get something off my mind as well.

How odd is it that CC Dad was the one who told LE about TL?????

Very odd to me.I wonder just how much he knew about TL.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Wow!!! That is cold.

Cold on my part or cold on their part? It has been reported that KC had everything changed over to his name and then he divorced his wife leaving her with nothing. The Rev. Coleman performed the wedding ceremony two weeks later for KC and his GF.

I would say it is very cold. It shows no compassion for the women who were married to their sons. We know how the Coleman family has treated Sheri's family and the same disregard is present.

 

[mikeysmommom]

You do have a point. Why did his dad the Rev. know about Tara and the affair?



It was said the information about the wedding invitations came from his family, too. Were they pushing for this union? Did they dislike Sheri and the boys so much they were willing to put them aside for the new bride?
Let's not forget it wouldn't be the first time for the Rev. to do this. KC's nasty divorce happened and two weeks later the Rev. married him off to his GF.

You would think a true man of God would not want his son to break up his marriage and family for a fallen woman.Her ex hubby was involved in wonder if she was a leading lady?:waitasec: in his ventures.That furniture she got in her divorce sure sounds like a cheesy set.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You would think a true man of God would not want his son to break up his marriage and family for a fallen woman.Her ex hubby was involved in wonder if she was a leading lady?:waitasec: in his ventures.That furniture she got in her divorce sure sounds like a cheesy set.

I thought her obsession with the Rhinos was quite phallic, too. I can see how they would go well with the purple and black couch. LOL

Maybe we need to check into some of his "productions".

Speaking of their divorce, I noticed they had a lot of debt and he took the bulk of it. He ended up paying $29,000.00 plus the car payments on the caddy and the SUV. Yet a year and a half later he is buying a condo with her?! How does that work?!

 

[kiki the parrot]

I am brainstorming here......Could CC had "created" the threats to JM & her employees to make his presence be more important and valuable? Could he have used this all along as leverage to garnish more hours and/or pay from JMM?

Job security Kinda killin two birds w one stone too, as this would cannily serve or "morph" from there into the murder plot he hatched and I've no doubt the cold methodical planning of at least SC's murder dates back to the web of lies and fantasies he'd begun weaving. In his twisted mind he'd already entered into and begun living the new "unencumbered" life of his fantasies as he went about drawing more and more people into his web of deceit. Creepy.
arrot:

 

[mikeysmommom]

I thought her obsession with the Rhinos was quite phallic, too. I can see how they would go well with the purple and black leather couch. LOL

Maybe we need to check into some of his "productions".

That might be a very good idea! Maybe the half interest in the condo was payment for a starring role?

 

[rockman]

Cold on my part or cold on their part? It has been reported that KC had everything changed over to his name and then he divorced his wife leaving her with nothing. The Rev. Coleman performed the wedding ceremony two weeks later for KC and his GF.

I would say it is very cold. It shows no compassion for the women who were married to their sons. We know how the Coleman family has treated Sheri's family and the same disregard is present.

Definitely cold on the Colemans part. I had read about the other son's divorce, but I did not know that he married his GF two weeks after the divorce and that daddy did the service. Colemans are obviously heartless.

 

[rockman]

Maybe we need to check into some of his "productions".

That could be interesting.....

 

[kiki the parrot]

I know that LuckyBuck (in Pt 6) also raised the question of whether there may have been possible steroid use... (CC doesn't appear to have the physique I associate w this guess I'm just still straining for something to explain the inexplicable.) Was anything ever uncovered to indicate that he ever used these? Just wondering TIA

arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

That could be interesting.....

LOL It wouldn't be the first time we have had to go into the unsavory world and research in an effort to find someone or their seedy side. I learned you have to make sure your virus protection is up to date and you have to scauld your eyes afterward.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Police: Coleman planned divorce, admitted to affair with wife's 'good friend'
Talked to girlfriend before wife, sons died

COLUMBIA -- In the hours before Christopher Coleman's wife and two sons were found strangled in their Columbia home, Coleman talked long distance to a girlfriend in Florida he planned to marry, according to search warrant records filed Friday.

Coleman planned to divorce his wife by June 14 and marry his wife's "good friend" Tara Lintz, 31, of St. Petersburg, Fla., next year, according to the records that became available after legal action filed by the Belleville News-Democrat in Monroe County Circuit Court...

Lintz admitted having a sexual relationship with Christopher Coleman, 32, since November. Lintz said Coleman planned to divorce Sheri Coleman by June 14. The relationship started several weeks after Sheri Coleman signed off the family's deed to their $230,000 home at 2854 Robert Drive in Columbia on Oct. 6. (cont'd at link)

http://www.bnd.com/news/local/story/788300.html

arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2009/05/29/15/ColemanDocument.source.prod_affiliate.98.pdf

(SW document) Good Lord, talk about having the "fox guarding the chicken coop..."

I mean between all the philandering, threatening messages, letters and emails he sent, hacking into user accounts, self-aggrandizement and self-promotion, it's a wonder CC had any time to keep anyone "safe."

arrot:

 

[who knew?]

I have no idea if she knew or not but this is not how my PO Box works at all. Our rental periods and billing do not work like that. I have a PO Box, the form lists who will receive mail at that address in one section, and then it has another section for who will collect mail from that address and requires your ID on file at that time. They will not give mail to anyone on the form with presentation of ID. I have also used mine for CC application address since 9-11, no issue whatsoever, activate it when it arrived with my address and security info. Some people do not have a physical address where mail can be hand delivered.

Same here - also, billing dates are not all set at same time, just one year from the date box was obtained. Some people around here use them for their "side-businesses" to help keep their business and home correspondence separate. That is what I figured CC was doing for his so called side "security" business, allowing SC to be aware of it, just not aware of what mailed he received there. Also, I happen to know of a guy who had his merchandise sent to a box his wife knew nothing about ---- and once she found out, that was the least of his problems!!! Seems he was caught in several unsavory acts!!! (He's awaiting sentencing.) :bang:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Mike Cole, an employee of Joyce Meyer Ministries, in April "provided a list of names as well as photos of people that have threatened Coleman and other Joyce Meyer Ministries employees and who Coleman stated he believed could be responsible for the threats" the Coleman family had received.

http://www.bnd.com/news/local/story/788300.html

The past threats could have been years before the ones Chris wrote and planted at his house (and evidently on Sheri's facebook). Since Mike C. provided photos of the people, it means they had been researched and they already knew about them. Were charges ever pressed against those people?

In the article on JMM in 2004, it mentioned threats against JM.

 

[who knew?]

Which could very well make her an accomplice to this crime -- if she knew about it. This is why I think she's being kept under wraps (unlike Amber). I believe LE is taking a very close look at her and her coming and goings and do not want the media involved.

JMHO.

Mel

ITA - that makes complete sense.

 

[kiki the parrot]

This defense ploy is so annoyingly transparent Like the old slight of hand... from bnd article I posted earlier, toss or "blend" in a few ancient possibly legitimate "threats" w the preponderance of those manufactured more recently by CC to create "reasonable doubt..." p-leez, guess that's all they've got.

arrot:

 

[who knew?]

Keep up the investigating!! I have to work with some kids for a few hours but I'll BBL. Hope to see we have some more news.........

 

[Knox]

Revisiting the so-called threats... Couldn't sleep so reading and thinking...

Anyone see the "switch tracks" in the following, i.e. there appears to be a new manipulation from the 1st to the 2nd threat...so why? (there is a reason)

From this source:

>>Coleman had called police on Jan. 2 to complain of an anonymous threatening letter left in his mailbox. According to court documents, It says, "Deny your God publically or else! No more opportunities. Time is running out for you and your family!"

It also says, "Have a good time in India (obscenity)." It did not refer to anyone by name, but Joyce Meyer did a "conference tour" in Bangalore, India, from Jan. 15-18, according to a schedule posted on her Web site.<<

Actually, this source has the extra wording that was in that message:

>>"[the F word] you! Deny your God publically or else! No more opportunities. Time is running out for you and your family! Have a good time in India MXTHXR FXXXER."<<

Notes to self: The above was supposedly from a letter "left in his mailbox." Notice the all "caps" of the last 2 words. IMO, whoever left that letter (if it is a documented piece of paper) was skilled at internet use/protocol i.e. use lower case letters for normal text, use all caps for shouting. IF this had been a person who was just a poor typist (not an internet savvy one) wanting to make things easy on themselves, they would have done the whole letter in all caps. No, those last two words were capped, as internet users do, to enunciate the words.

Note to investigators: So...looking at CC's emails, does he switch from lower case to all caps when enunciating? I'd bet on it.

NOW THEN...check out the switch of tracks in this next one...

From this source:

>>A second threatening note, reported by Christopher Coleman April 27, seems to refer to Meyer but does not name her.

It says, "You have not listened to me and you have not changed your ways. I have warned you to stop traveling and stop carrying on with this fake religious life of stealing people&#8217;s money. You think you are so special to do what you do protecting or think you are protecting her. She is a (obscenity) and not worth you doing it. Stop today or else. I know your schedule! You can&#8217;t hide from me ever. I&#8217;m always watching. I know when you leave in the morning and I know when you stay home. I saw you leave this morning."

In addition, it says in capital letters; "THIS IS MY LAST WARNING! YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!"<<

And again, from this source which has the extra wording that was in that message:

>>[the F word] you! I have given you the last warning. You have not listened to me and you have not changed your ways. I have warned you to stop traveling and stop carrying on with this fake religious life of stealing people&#8217;s money. You think you are so special to do what you do protecting or think you are protecting her. She is a [B word] and not worth you doing it. Stop today or else. I know your schedule! You can&#8217;t hide from me ever. I&#8217;m always watching. I know when you leave in the morning and I know when you stay home. I saw you leave this morning. I will be watching. You better stop traveling and doing what you are doing. THIS IS MY LAST WARNING! YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!"<<

Okay...
FIRST TRACK: Deny your God publically
[note the capital on God, hmmm is there a pattern in CC's texting here?]

SECOND TRACK: Last warning, you have not listened, stop "traveling"
[note to self and investigators, travelling is spelled wrong - how does CC usually spell "travelling"]

The 1st so-called threat is supposedly asking a Christian to do what they will not do, they will not deny their god. So, the 1st so-called threat is supposedly to "box someone in" against the possible imminent, the "or else." A true believer will die before denying their god. And what's with the "No more opportunities. Time is running out for you and your family!" -- what opportunities? what time running out? Were there other warnings previous to this? What was CC trying to set up here?

Now we have the leap to the 2nd track -- or were there so-called threats in between these two -- the so-called threat writer has suddenly switched tracks to a focus on "travel" -- now they want "stop travel." Just what was CC thinking here? Is this the threat he copied and sent to MM? Was he trying to say, "I can't do that summer trip we were planning" or "If I do that trip, this terrible threatmeister might know I have booked a ticket with my job and something will happen to my family." (in the latter case, a setup to say -- oh they found out about my ticket and moved in.)

We have now gone from a focus of asking the impossible of a Christian ("deny your god publically") to one of "I have warned you to stop traveling."

So...what's the deal with the switch of tracks? What was CC trying to accomplish here?

Good points Wrinkles! I think CC was laying the groundwork for calling off and/or delaying the summer trip with TL. I still think he had a plan which was more organized, but something happened with SC that night and he had to scramble to make everything fit, hence all the loose ends. Also noticed that the oldest boy was the only one they did not specifically say was found in his "bed"?

 

[Lovejac]

http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2009/05/29/15/ColemanDocument.source.prod_affiliate.98.pdf

(SW document) Good Lord, talk about having the "fox guarding the chicken coop..."

I mean between all the philandering, threatening messages, letters and emails he sent, hacking into user accounts, self-aggrandizement and self-promotion, it's a wonder CC had any time to keep anyone "safe."

arrot:

This defense ploy is so annoyingly transparent Like the old slight of hand... from bnd article I posted earlier, toss or "blend" in a few ancient possibly legitimate "threats" w the preponderance of those manufactured more recently by CC to create "reasonable doubt..." p-leez, guess that's all they've got.

arrot:

kiki! You're on a roll today! :clap: Keep 'em coming, I'm lmao!

 

[cornflakekid]

Let me tell you all about USPS PO Boxes.

Everyone that has a PO box gets a choice of paying for 6 months or 1 year's worth of box rental. Everyone pays on 6/30 and 12/31 if you pay every 6 months. If you pay only once a year you choose to pay on 6/30 or 12/31.

So if you open a PO Box on 3/1 - you pay the rental fee up to 6/30 (4 months worth) - Then right before 6/30 you are billed for the period of 7/1 to 12/31.

So CC was 2 days late paying his PO Box bill on 6/30 (He paid it on 7/2/08 - which would cover the rental fee from 7/1/08 to 12/31/08) - this would be why the Postmaster sent him an email reminder about his PO Box rental fee.

Now the receipt that was $36 is for a PO Box about 4" wide x 6" high for 6 months (so he was paying for his PO Box every 6 months) - The 4" x 6" box is the second size up from the smallest PO Box size they offer. Typically you can choose to have a combo lock entry PO Box or a Key entry PO Box (they offer both in the 4"x6" size)
The keys are stamped with Property of USPS and you only get 1 key to the box unless you ask for a spare and pay a deposit on the spare key.

The Postmaster would probably know if Sheri had come in at anytime to get mail from the PO Box and typically you have to add another persons name on the rental form if they are also going to get mail in the box. In other words CC would have had to add Sheri's name on to the PO Box rental form for her to legally get mail in her name sent to the PO Box - he could have done this without her knowledge but by doing this he also gave Sheri the permission to access that PO Box even if she did not have a key or combo to the PO Box. All she would have to do is go to the counter and tell the clerk she forgot the combo or the key and they would look and see if her name was on the rental form. If her name is on the rental form they would give her access to the box after she gave them some form of ID showing that she was Sheri Coleman.

Yes Sheri may have not known about the PO Box but I doubt it since a there was a Credit Card in a envelope with her name on it and the PO Box address attached to that Credit Card.

You cannot apply these days for a Credit Card using a PO Box - this started after 9/11. You must give them a physical address when applying for a credit card (this is federal law). After they send that initial credit card to you at the physical address then you can change your billing address to a PO Box if you like. Then when your renewal Credit Card comes in they will send it to the PO Box. (so the point is the Credit Card in Sheri's name addressed to the PO Box was a renewal card and not a new line of credit. (Credit Card).

My whole point of posting this is I think Sheri knew about the PO Box and I think she knew about the Credit Card. (It was sitting on a table in the bedroom) It is very possible that Sheri was trusting of CC and she let him pick the PO Box mail up all the time. If so CC would have nothing to worry about since he was the one picking up the PO Box mail all the time. To be honest CC probably took care of paying all the bills also in the home so he would be in charge of incoming mail.

Most of what you stated was correct, however, it is not correct, at least where I live, about the dates you mentioned. I have had a P.O. Box for almost four years now and the rental runs from when I rented it up to six months, not prorated up to the dates you mentioned, which I believe my rental goes from Feb 15 to Aug 15 and then Aug 15 to Feb 15.

Having a P.O. box doesn't necessarily have evil intentions. Matter of fact, when my husband was murdered three years ago and I had a P.O. box, I was never questioned as a suspect. Of course, that would have been foolish under the circumstances of his death anyway and it was readily apparent I was not involved.

Anyway, have a good day.