Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt8

[MCDRAW]

I've thought about this too escamoles. I, like you, don't believe it was Sheri who put it online. This seems totally out of charactor, from what we've been told about Sheri.

IMHO, it seems more of a 'guy thing.'

JMHO
fran

I agree but I kind of wonder if Sheri didn't put it on you tube to show the world that CC wasn't what everyone thought. That is the only reason that I would think she put it on otherwise it's a male thing.

 

[Melanie]

NO it isn't. If you are going to hunt any type of animal for the meat, you have to bleed it out right away or else the blood will coagulate in the meat and render the meat useless. Whether hunting with a gun or bow and arrow, that's the way it is, PERIOD.

So, they were either out killing deer just for the heck of it with no intention of field dressing it, which is killing for the thrill or they had a knife on them but decided to strangle it to death just for jollies and capture the joyous occasion on film.

YOU may not see the reason so many see this as contemptible, but either way it is. So to you it may be much ado about nada, imaginations working overtime, etc. but to those of us who know better, it's much more than that. What kind of a hunter doesn't carry a knife?

I talked to my bro in Alaska - who is an avid hunter. And he said you're right - you do have to bleed out the kill right away (I had no idea). He also said hunters do not go out without a knife or gun. He did say he's had to finish a kill he thought was dead with a knife (ICK). I didn't go into the breaking neck thing though - he was curious enough as to why I was asking.

These creeps either did it for the thrill, and nothing more. My previous posts were incorrect.

Thanks!

Mel

 

[carla61154]

Quote:
Originally Posted by escamoles View Post
What I still can't figure out about the deer strangling video is that it was on youtube under SC's account (littlesheric). Why in the world would she put that on youtube?

Does it seem odd to anyone else? Maybe this has been discussed at length in a prior thread -- if so, I apologize in advance.

The fact that the video was yanked after word started getting out about it (and SC was dead) means that CC probably had access to her account, which isn't surprising, given SC's Facebook situation.
I've thought about this too escamoles. I, like you, don't believe it was Sheri who put it online. This seems totally out of charactor, from what we've been told about Sheri.

IMHO, it seems more of a 'guy thing.'

JMHO
fran




Add this to the fact that a credit card with Sheri's name on it went to CC's secret PO Box...and suspicious signatures around the house papers and it appears CC may have done several things in this poor lady's name...yet another sign of Control!!!

 

[escamoles]

Welcome, Carla!

 

[carla61154]

Quote:
Originally Posted by escamoles View Post
What I still can't figure out about the deer strangling video is that it was on youtube under SC's account (littlesheric). Why in the world would she put that on youtube?

Does it seem odd to anyone else? Maybe this has been discussed at length in a prior thread -- if so, I apologize in advance.

The fact that the video was yanked after word started getting out about it (and SC was dead) means that CC probably had access to her account, which isn't surprising, given SC's Facebook situation.
I've thought about this too escamoles. I, like you, don't believe it was Sheri who put it online. This seems totally out of charactor, from what we've been told about Sheri.

IMHO, it seems more of a 'guy thing.'

JMHO
fran






Add this to the fact that a credit card with Sheri's name on it went to CC's secret PO Box...and suspicious signatures around the house papers and it appears CC may have done several things in this poor lady's name...yet another sign of Control!!![/QUOTE]

 

[Lindadanette]

Quote:
Originally Posted by escamoles View Post
What I still can't figure out about the deer strangling video is that it was on youtube under SC's account (littlesheric). Why in the world would she put that on youtube?

Does it seem odd to anyone else? Maybe this has been discussed at length in a prior thread -- if so, I apologize in advance.

The fact that the video was yanked after word started getting out about it (and SC was dead) means that CC probably had access to her account, which isn't surprising, given SC's Facebook situation.
I've thought about this too escamoles. I, like you, don't believe it was Sheri who put it online. This seems totally out of charactor, from what we've been told about Sheri.

IMHO, it seems more of a 'guy thing.'

JMHO
fran




Add this to the fact that a credit card with Sheri's name on it went to CC's secret PO Box...and suspicious signatures around the house papers and it appears CC may have done several things in this poor lady's name...yet another sign of Control!!!

ITA - I wonder if Ms Motive was in charge of posting on Sheri's accounts?

As far as JMM, I did some searching and I think that you can look at the Board of Directors and see which churches JMM is financially involved with:

http://www.joycemeyer.org/AboutUs/FinancialAccountability/BoardOfDirectors/

 

[SuziQ]

Add this to the fact that a credit card with Sheri's name on it went to CC's secret PO Box...and suspicious signatures around the house papers and it appears CC may have done several things in this poor lady's name...yet another sign of Control!!!

[/quote]

:Welcome-12-june:

 

[artie gumshoe]

maybe not a 'guy thing' as I am a guy and my guy friends who do hunt think the video is a bit much. I think, that most likely CC and his brother and friends are either a group of stupid people hunting, or they were drunk at the time.

 

[Wrinkles]

Greetings my dear SS,

As per the following...

I honestly do not see how anyone can defend this monster including his defense attorney. Why would anyone even WANT to defend him?

<snipped>

My darling husband asked the same question the other day. I ask it... It is clearly a real question -- what frame of mind, or denial of conscience could take a person here?

 

[sweetpeakc]

Sorry I just caught up and someone a little ways back ask about Sheri's Facebook. I had read somewhere that Sheri herself closed her page because of some unauthorized changes that had been made. I bet it was CC making those changes....

 

[Lindadanette]

Sorry I just caught up and someone a little ways back ask about Sheri's Facebook. I had read somewhere that Sheri herself closed her page because of some unauthorized changes that had been made. I bet it was CC making those changes....

Yep and/or TL - probably both. I think they were playing cat and mouse with Sheri. It's totally depraved. Posting the video in her name may have been another twisted joke - but a very ominous one in retrospect.

 

[escamoles]

Yep and/or TL - probably both. I think they were playing cat and mouse with Sheri. It's totally depraved. Posting the video in her name may have been another twisted joke - but a very ominous one in retrospect.

That's what I think happened.

 

[who knew?]

ITA - I wonder if Ms Motive was in charge of posting on Sheri's accounts?

As far as JMM, I did some searching and I think that you can look at the Board of Directors and see which churches JMM is financially involved with:

http://www.joycemeyer.org/AboutUs/FinancialAccountability/BoardOfDirectors/

Can you tell if Grace Church USA, Grace Fellowship Church and Grace Ministries are all the same "church"? I've looked into that before, but couldn't tell if they are connected in some way or not.

 

[who knew?]

If they are connected, maybe he will receive visits:

http://www.gracechurchusa.com/outreach.html

:waitasec:

 

[Kimster]

Hello there, Carla!!! Glad you've joined us!!!

 

[Kimster]

Will CC get a fair trial?

<snipped>
"It's not like we're just a bunch of hicks," Rey said. "I think there's enough intelligent people that would wait and see all the evidence and make their decision from there."

Sheriff Kelley thinks likewise, offering as proof the last murder trial here, when jurors in August 2005 acquitted James Wiley in the shooting death of his pregnant wife, whose body was found in a creek bed in a Waterloo park two years earlier."


Monroe County State's Attorney Kris Reitz, who also is prosecuting Coleman, had argued that Wiley killed 21-year-old Twila Wiley in a jealous rage after discovering she had an affair. But the defense said the woman was depressed and shot herself in the head."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gSA6FBzMasNGqOrADxTGi0PJeEmgD98J2U200

 

[Wrinkles]

Dear Pres101 and ALL of the gang here...

Very important... Pres, per your following...

The first threat was received on Jan. 1, 2009. So I guess we know what his New Years Resolution was.

On 05/30/09 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3814148&postcount=1114"]I mentioned the following ...[/ame]:

SIDE NOTE: EVERYONE please note this in your files so we can find it in the future, it is in a search warrant.

As per the document found at the following URL, a search warrant:
http://www.ksdk.com/news/pdfs/search_gracechurch.pdf

The document says (page 7 of 8):
>>While there, Detectives saw video surveillance cameras inside the church. This said video footage may continue images of an unknown person that has left threatening messages for Christopher E. Coleman and his family. The threat in his email on November 18th, 2008 threatened Coleman and his family for his employment with Joyce Meyer Ministries. The letter that was left in his US Mailbox on January 2nd, 2009 stated that "time is running out for you and your family" and "have a good time in India ..." which indicated the sender knew of a trip Coleman had upcoming. The letter that was left in Coleman's US Mailbox on April 27th, 2009 stated "I am giving you the last warning! You have not listened to me and you have not changed your ways. I have warned you to stop traveling and to stop carrying on with this fake religious life of stealing people's money. You think you are so special to do what you do protecting or thinking you are protecting her. She is a [b word] and not worth you doing it. Stop today or else. I know your schedule! You can't hide from me ever. I'm always watching. I know when you leave in the morning and I know when you stay home. I saw you leave this morning. I will be watching. you better stop travelling and doing what you are doing. THIS IS MY LAST WARNING! YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!" There were spray painted messages left inside Coleman's house the early morning of Tuesday, May 5th, 2009, which stated "I am alway [sic] watching", "you have paid" and "I saw you leave"...<<

EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE the first threat was in an "email" on "November 18th, 2008."

Search words: first coleman threat november 18

We have NEVER seen the content of the above mentioned email, but this email comes in line with TL's mention that a sexual relationship with CC and she began in November 2008.

search words: Chris Coleman sexual relationship november

Gads, trying to find this documentation can be a chore -- where is our WS librarian?

So-called Coleman threats
November 18 -- email
January 2 -- mailbox
April 27 -- mailbox

 

[Clearly Confused]

Dear Pres101 and ALL of the gang here...

Very important... Pres, per your following...



On 05/30/09 I mentioned the following ...:

SIDE NOTE: EVERYONE please note this in your files so we can find it in the future, it is in a search warrant.

As per the document found at the following URL, a search warrant:
http://www.ksdk.com/news/pdfs/search_gracechurch.pdf

The document says (page 7 of 8):
>>While there, Detectives saw video surveillance cameras inside the church. This said video footage may continue images of an unknown person that has left threatening messages for Christopher E. Coleman and his family. The threat in his email on November 18th, 2008 threatened Coleman and his family for his employment with Joyce Meyer Ministries. The letter that was left in his US Mailbox on January 2nd, 2009 stated that "time is running out for you and your family" and "have a good time in India ..." which indicated the sender knew of a trip Coleman had upcoming. The letter that was left in Coleman's US Mailbox on April 27th, 2009 stated "I am giving you the last warning! You have not listened to me and you have not changed your ways. I have warned you to stop traveling and to stop carrying on with this fake religious life of stealing people's money. You think you are so special to do what you do protecting or thinking you are protecting her. She is a [b word] and not worth you doing it. Stop today or else. I know your schedule! You can't hide from me ever. I'm always watching. I know when you leave in the morning and I know when you stay home. I saw you leave this morning. I will be watching. you better stop travelling and doing what you are doing. THIS IS MY LAST WARNING! YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!" There were spray painted messages left inside Coleman's house the early morning of Tuesday, May 5th, 2009, which stated "I am alway [sic] watching", "you have paid" and "I saw you leave"...<<

EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE the first threat was in an "email" on "November 18th, 2008."

Search words: first coleman threat november 18

We have NEVER seen the content of the above mentioned email, but this email comes in line with TL's mention that a sexual relationship with CC and she began in November 2008.

search words: Chris Coleman sexual relationship november

Gads, trying to find this documentation can be a chore -- where is our WS librarian?

So-called Coleman threats
November 18 -- email
January 2 -- mailbox
April 27 -- mailbox

where is our WS librarian?

I think we just found her.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello SS and Melly53,

Per the following. You both get points for having "read the thread"! I reported having seen a November 18th, 2008 email as a threat, within this thread and gave the SW resource, I have just resourced that again for everyone.

If you dreamed it, then we both did. I believe that an earlier threat received by email was mentioned in the last search warrants that were released regarding the internet information that LE was seeking. I believe the article said that one was received in November IIRC.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The deer video was removed soon after one of our sharp posters called it into the MCS. If Sheri ever saw the deer video, I cannot imagine what ran through her head. I also wonder if Chris showed it to the boys.

We have talked extensively about how he treated Sheri, but no one has mentioned how he could have treated the boys with the same disdain during the months preceeding the murders. Did he ramp up his "discipline" on them as his mind twisted out of control? What was he saying to them about Sheri? Was he trying to turn them against her and the attempts failed?

I don't doubt it was Chris messing with Sheri's myspace and probably other accounts. I noticed one of her addresses included both of their names and this usually means they both accessed it. He probably had a program which captured her other passwords and even her keystrokes. (He was into the cloak and dagger side of the security biz.)

Welcome to WS, Carla~ Great first posts!

Good question, Wrinkles! I would say denial is the key word for his supporters, but defiance rather like the A fam comes to mind. His family appears to be following the same path, but at least they are not out in the media turning the whole world against them. JM got out quickly. Why go down with a burning ship?

ETA: Thank you for finding the email threat reference, Wrinkles! Great job!