Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt8

[SeriouslySearching]

I am not certain where I read it, but I did see that RC asked JM to give Chris his job after he came out of the Marines. (I will try to find the link.)

In the meantime, I found this on YouTube and it is a woman's summary of this case. Weird since it sounds like a sleuth with all the details. (She has other videos including P1):

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHmqMkW5cg"]YouTube - p2--the PK (Preacher's Kid) Strangler -- Chris Coleman, Nancy Grace[/ame]

BTW~ It is not ME! LOL

 

[analytical]

That woman has way too much time on her hands and is totally off her rocker.

 

[who knew?]

I am not certain where I read it, but I did see that RC asked JM to give Chris his job after he came out of the Marines. (I will try to find the link.)

I remember reading this, also......... And was the $100,000 "gift" a rumor or a fact?

As for the toxicology reports - I'm betting on something turning up. Hope they release them.

 

[Kimster]

We've weathered the storm over here! There was only one house damaged that has been reported by the news so far!

June 10th can't come soon enough! We need some breaking NEWS around here! LOL

 

[Kimster]

SS, that YouTube was crazy, man! LOL

 

[Stella5]

That woman has way too much time on her hands and is totally off her rocker.

Her theories are a bit out there, but she's sleuthing it out in her own mind just as we have all done here over the past month. So I guess we can say we all have way too much time on our hands to be speculating and bouncing our theories off of each other as much as we have, as well as providing lots & lots of links that obviously take us a lot of time to drag up.

IMHO any theories that are posed are worthwhile investigating as this case is one of the most heinous around these days. You have a father & husband kill his entire family, that hits a bit close to home for lots of folks and makes it so hard to try to understand.

 

[Stella5]

We should be hearing something very soon if they release the findings. It will be very interesting to find out the final report.

Indeed. And if Julie says it takes four to six weeks to get tox results back, my bet would be she has them and they are waiting for the prelim to release them. Tuesday was 4 weeks.

 

[Stella5]

What on earth does this mud-slinging have to do with the case? Nothing at all!

Maybe the Holy Spirit didn't "warn" Joyce because CC is not a psycho killer.

You can all save your laughter at me.

BBM what exactly would your definition of a psycho killer be?

My definition would be a husband & father who thought it was his right to strangle the life out of his wife & children. I believe the MCS & SA would agree with that.

Would a confession be the only way for you to believe he did this?

Just really curious, and I know it's been asked more than once and I'm really not expecting a reply. I just don't get how anyone can still hold to the belief that this man is not guilty of this crime. The stars would have had to align as they never had before to make all these "coincidences" believable on that fateful day, IMO.

 

[Stella5]

Sheri could be heard laughing in the background on the video. How soon that is conveniently forgotten. There were comments about Sheri's laughing in the background and her sense of humor was termed "weird" ... way back in some of the original threads.

I'm sorry, but this is simply not true! The person laughing in the background was clearly a man. No one has "conveniently forgotten" this fact, because it is not a fact. The only thing we do definitely know about this video and how Sheri is tied to it is where it was posted, on her usual user names youtube account. Many families share one youtube account where multiple family members post to it. CC could have posted it for all we know. We just don't know. We do know it was not a woman laughing, let alone Sheri.

 

[Stella5]

I never saw the video. I missed that! I must say that is pretty sick and twisted to laugh about strangling an animal.

Not to mention to actually stangle the animal. Isn't that how some serial killers got there start? Cruelty to animals and it escalated from there.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Glad you are safe, Kimster~ Sounds like a horrid storm.

Stella, you are probably right about the Toxicology results. They could already be back. (Don't they know we want to see them?!)

I would say Chris is among the most cruel killers. He terrorized those closest to him for months before pretending to be some deranged madman while he choked the life out of his wife and children. He isn't psycho. He is pure evil. (Psycho would mean he had some mental excuse.)

 

[Melly53]

To me the most important question regarding JMM would be prior to Nov. 2008, how many times had someone in her organization, outside of JM and her immediate family, received threats. I would be willing to be that it was rare if ever.

When you think about it, when someone wants to target someone famous then that is who they target. Say for example someone decided they did not like Paris Hilton's, then they would target Paris Hilton, not her maid or hairdresser.

The supposed threats sent to CC just don't make sense IMO.

 

[rollinon86]

NO it isn't. If you are going to hunt any type of animal for the meat, you have to bleed it out right away or else the blood will coagulate in the meat and render the meat useless. Whether hunting with a gun or bow and arrow, that's the way it is, PERIOD.

So, they were either out killing deer just for the heck of it with no intention of field dressing it, which is killing for the thrill or they had a knife on them but decided to strangle it to death just for jollies and capture the joyous occasion on film.

YOU may not see the reason so many see this as contemptible, but either way it is. So to you it may be much ado about nada, imaginations working overtime, etc. but to those of us who know better, it's much more than that. What kind of a hunter doesn't carry a knife?

You've got that right, TCO! Having lived with a hunter, I know that they wouldn't go out without that knife! If they are ANY kind of deer hunter at all, that is! If they just want to go out wrestling the nearest deer they can find, well then...it might be another story! It's "standard equipment" and high on the "don't forget to take along" list!

 

[rollinon86]

ITA, PLUS, to me,.............it's the FACT they not only caught it on film, but put it on the internet.

What kind of person does that?

ehhhh..........there musta' been sumpin' wrong with it or they wouldn't have taken it offline.

JMHO
fran

I would agree with the sumpin' wrong statement! That film shows that they have the know how of how to strangle. Period! Whether it be deer or people, they have the knowledge and ability to do it!

 

[rollinon86]

What I still can't figure out about the deer strangling video is that it was on youtube under SC's account (littlesheric). Why in the world would she put that on youtube?

Does it seem odd to anyone else? Maybe this has been discussed at length in a prior thread -- if so, I apologize in advance.

The fact that the video was yanked after word started getting out about it (and SC was dead) means that CC probably had access to her account, which isn't surprising, given SC's Facebook situation.

You are right, escamoles! That video being taken down AFTER the fact tells us that "someone" had access to her account beside Sheri and "someone" knew it was there and "SOMEONE" was worried about it being there! Now who would be worried about a video showing a deer being strangled?? Hmmmm......

 

[rollinon86]

I agree but I kind of wonder if Sheri didn't put it on you tube to show the world that CC wasn't what everyone thought. That is the only reason that I would think she put it on otherwise it's a male thing.

I'm just now catching up and sorry if this has been asked before BUT were there any other videos on that YouTube account or was that the only one there?

 

[fran]

I'm just now catching up and sorry if this has been asked before BUT were there any other videos on that YouTube account or was that the only one there?

I could be wrong because I don't have the link right now, but IIRC, there was just one video, which has now been removed.

I agree with the other posters that said this was possibly a 'family' video type account and Sheri most likely didn't even upload that in the first place. I mean, it was taken down after she died as others have said, so someone else had access to the online video account.

JMHO
fran

 

[rollinon86]

I could be wrong because I don't have the link right now, but IIRC, there was just one video, which has now been removed.

I agree with the other posters that said this was possibly a 'family' video type account and Sheri most likely didn't even upload that in the first place. I mean, it was taken down after she died as others have said, so someone else had access to the online video account.

JMHO
fran

Thanks, fran! I thought that might have been the case. Yes...I agree. Someone else had access after the fact and I believe was trying to cover their tail...that's a definite red flag!

 

[rollinon86]

Indeed. And if Julie says it takes four to six weeks to get tox results back, my bet would be she has them and they are waiting for the prelim to release them. Tuesday was 4 weeks.

Yes, I believe that they are not going to hold an inquest because that evidence that they would present at the inquest would be a matter of public record so to speak and I think they want to keep it under wraps for the moment. I don't think they want any of that info swirling around for the public to hear at this point as it could taint the public by way of the media picking it up and....taint the potential jurors in the county. I think they want this trial to go off without a hitch. JMO

ETA: I think they want this trial to come out with a better outcome than the last murder trial that was held in the county! They are really watching that they don't foul anything up! I think they learned a lesson the last time...they have to be on their game for this one!

 

[fran]

I'll try this again.......I do NOT believe JMM is in any way, shape or form, connected to what happened to the Coleman family, other than being the employer of the accused. I do NOT think ANYONE saw this coming. IF Chris is the killer, which I BELIEVE he is, most likely EVERYONE who knew him would never dream he was capable of this crime, not to mention he'd even THINK about it.

I don't believe CC has anything that he can use 'against' JMM. I don't believe there was anything sinister or any hidden meaning of JM showing up at the crime scene that morning. LE called in their chaplin. It may have been he who called JM or maybe one of the officers on duty or a neighbor knew CC worked at JMM and with her being a spiritual person, they may have thought her presence would assist CC. Remember, this was before, well,...............ok,........before anyone outside of LE, thought CC was responsible for the crime.

By the time JM arrived on the scene, CC was already in his frantic type state, attempting to go back inside and having to be stopped by an officer, we heard rolling around on the grass, by all accounts from observers, a paniced survivor of the remainder of his family just meeting a horrible end. I believe CC was taken away by ambulance just about the time JM arrived so it was a natural progression for JM to (try to calm) counsel upset observers, neighbors, at the scene. This is what she does.

Other than being his employer, the only link at all to this grisly crime for JM, is that as her employee, CC led a life, (work life) of opulence and grandeur. Of course this wealth was held by another, but he was exposed to this lavish life-style day after day after day. It very possibly effected CC's psyche and that may be in part, what ultimately led to these murders. It hypnotized him. He was drawn to the forbidden fruit.

Like another sleuther said, and although it's an old saying, it may be a 'key' in this case,.................'money is the root of all evil.' I don't beleive anyone will dispute the fact that IF in fact Chris Coleman is guilty of murdering his beautiful wife and two young children, CC is a poster child for that particular old saying.

JMHO
fran