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I need to vent, I hope I don't catch any flack for this. I just called the non-emergency police line on my neighbors. I live in an apartment complex and it's always pretty quiet here. I live on the first floor and sit outside on my patio a lot when the evenings are nice. Let me just say that I'm NOT a parent, so be gentle with me. I really hope I don't sound judgemental. And I'm sorry for the long post!

These people moved in a few weeks ago, I don't even know who all is living there because there are always people coming and going. There is at least one little one, maybe close to 2 yrs? Anyway, the man and woman are always sitting outside, and the little boy runs around in just his diaper. He's adorable! Anyway, they don't pay attention to him. He runs ALL over the place, including out in the parking lot. I don't know how many times I've seen the dad finally get up and chase after him. The mom just sits in her chair and laughs. I'm a tad naive, but I'm not stupid. The dad can barely walk a straight line, there are people coming over ALL hours of the night (i'm an insomniac and go outside to smoke during the night) and they only stay for a few minutes, there's a lot of arguing between the adults, etc. I could go on and on. I've seen this baby running around at 2am :(

Anyway, tonight. I was sitting outside. There are 4 adults over there on their patio, and 3 kids...the baby in his diaper and 2 young girls (under 5 I'm guessing). They're playing IN THE PARKING LOT, and a car comes flying through. Thank goodness for the speed bump or this car would've hit at least one of the kids. The adults started laughing and I heard the "dad" say to one of the others "you go get him this time. He doesn't listen to me." Seriously?? I actually went over there (i'm in my pjs with no bra even lol) and asked if they needed a babysitter for the night. I said that clearly nobody wanted to watch the kids and they were going to get hurt with no supervision. Only one adult made eye contact with me and he just said "they're fine. Go home and don't worry about it."

They've gone inside since but I'm totally worried sick about these babies. The dispatcher said they'll check it out but I doubt they will.

m1279, you did the right thing, but I agree with Sulamith that I'm worried for you!! Who knows what kind of people they are and what they're capable of. I pray that you do don't have any problems with them.

Yes, there is probably some neglect going on there. But as long as they look like they're being fed properly...the other stuff they'll sadly have to deal with for the rest of their lives, I'm sure. They'll prob never change their ways (letting 'em play in parking lot, up till all hours, etc.etc). Can't fix broke, as the saying goes.
 
Oh it's noted! Impaired parents are never good parents.
Every call is logged and stored. You did great! If only everyone cared enough to pick up the phone when they suspected a child was in danger.

If the same thing happens tomorrow, report again. The heavy traffic is also troublesome. For all you know they could be operating a meth lab in that apartment!

M1279, I know I'm late to this convo., But just think that in any case, at least there is a formal record now that someone called on them and their apparent neglect. As we learn from so many cases on here, this could be very important should God forbid something happen to one of their kids, and the case goes to court. So even if nothing about the kids' circumstance changes as a result of your call, you still did the right thing, b/c if anything happens, they can pull up that note...that hey someone called and said they suspected neglect of the children, you let your children run around in the parking lot almost got hit by a car, the parents seemed inebriated/high and might have dealing with drugs, etc.. It could be very iimportant someday in court.
 
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OMG Linda, I worked with people from India. We couldnt use the microwave because it stunk from their food. They never cleaned it out, we werent about to. They use gobs of curry. People used to complain the store smelled. Now we werent used to this as the previous owner was the funeral director and spotless clean. We always worked hard to keep it that way. It was appreciated. Nick the F.D. I dont know how he pulls it off now he is just too full of life for F.D..:floorlaugh:

LOL....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:.

Yes, if you ever eat at an Indian restaurant, you'll notice that the smell gets into all of your clothes, including coat and everything, just from sitting inside the restaurant.....:floorlaugh:.

Also Linda, I know what you mean about Asian food.....I used to work with a couple of Vietnamese people....I could always tell when they had eaten lunch b/c the whole break room had that fishy smell afterwards! I've been to Asian grocery stores - the whole store is filled with the same smell.

Anyway, hope this is not offensive to anyone...I don't mean it in a bad way...just interesting to me that the food smells are so strong!
 
Alright folks, hope everyone has a wonderful Labor Day weekend!!! I'll prob. be back on this evening sometime.
 
LOL....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:.

Yes, if you ever eat at an Indian restaurant, you'll notice that the smell gets into all of your clothes, including coat and everything, just from sitting inside the restaurant.....:floorlaugh:.

Also Linda, I know what you mean about Asian food.....I used to work with a couple of Vietnamese people....I could always tell when they had eaten lunch b/c the whole break room had that fishy smell afterwards! I've been to Asian grocery stores - the whole store is filled with the same smell.

Anyway, hope this is not offensive to anyone...I don't mean it in a bad way...just interesting to me that the food smells are so strong!

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Hi aa9511, thanks for your letter. I was half asleep and didnt make myself clear. They are very nice caring people. Since they dont eat meat (many dont) they say their food is bland. I guess its like us using cinnamon, sage, etc..( only ours smell better).:floorlaugh:
 
The story about the 1985 Banana Republic shorts makes me smile. That's because I've got a BR shirt from the late 80s that's doing the same. I wear it every summer and it shows no signs of wear. It's cotton, loosely woven, and a classic style.
 
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Happy Birthday Niner :drumroll: May you have cake !!!:cupcake::party::bdsong::fireworks::cake4u::Banane35:

Yes, chocolate-chocolate cake!!! Yummmmmmyyyy!!! My Huz makes the best cake ever!!!! It will take the fillings out of your teeth!!! :floorlaugh:

and Thank you all who have wished me "Happy Birthday!" - I have "Thank"ed your posts!!

Here's a pic of me (on the right) with my Mamma and older brother- I'm a few months old here!!!

:seeya:

hmmm... won't let me upload a pic - I'll try later...
 
IMO it's more important to call and allow them to do their job and investigate. It's up to them to determine if its neglect, not the person reporting suspected neglect and drug dealing.

You're calling them to let them know of your concerns, and handing it off to them to make that welfare check and see is the child is OK, and I'd expect them to do their job and check it out. If something did happen to the child and you never said anything, the burden might be hard to carry.

I wouldn't of started out as confrontational and wouldn't of accused the parent of neglect to their face, but I'd of gone for a little walk ,and on my way to or from, lead the child back to it's parents saying I found him in the street. You can hope they get the clue that someone has noticed their parenting skills and will watch him closer, but don't get your hopes up, that's just my opinion.

I think some who don't/not around kids much overreact in some situation, but I do think she has a valid concern.

So passive-aggressive? On my part?
 
Be careful! Since you went to their house and told them that nobody wanted to watch their kids and that they had no supervision but you would babysit them, IMO if CPS does pay them a visit that family will know it was you that called in the report. If they are impaired, as you stated, if I were you, I would watch my back. Druggies are nothing to mess around with. This scares me!

I think that was sarcasm.
 
Happy B-Day, Niner!!!!
As always, I'm late for everything...........beautiful weekend for a birthday, I hope you have a fantastic day!

:bdsong:
 
I was born in 1956. I remember riding my bike (without a helmet!) to my friend's house in Tucson. On Halloween, my friends and I Trick or Treated until 10:00 pm, not a parent in site! None of this lame Trunk or Treat for us! When I was in the 6th grade and we moved to Texas, we used to wander off in the pasture to look at dead cows and old bottles. My girl friend and I were gone for hours. I think nowadays, people might think that my parents were negligent, but they were not. Of course, I know that drugs are not a good thing for kids. I just hope m knows what she might be getting herself into.

I was born in 1951 and we moved to Texas when I was seven. We walked everywhere too. Two miles to the library and to the A&P and TG&Y, and on Saturdays we'd walk to the movies. You could get in, get a coke and popcorn or a coke and candybar with a dollar. In the summer we dared each other to walk barefoot across the street or in how long one could stand in the hot melting asphalt.

We learned to avoid stinging nettles and bullheads. We made Indian villages out of hay in the barn and the cowboys were out in the pasture, and we fished in the stock pond. During the heat of the day you read or watched soap operas with your mother and Icky Twerp and Slambang Theater in the afternoon before dinner. At noon each day the fire station blew a whistle and you knew it was lunchtime.

After dinner you stayed out and played Mother May I, Red Rover, freeze tag, and crack the whip. We'd catch Horny Toads, frogs and lizards, and at night lightening bugs and watch for shooting stars. We'd only go in to take a cool bath, sprinkle Cashmere Bouquet on the sheets and you'd be out like a light.

I can't remember mine (or anyone's) parents checking on us. I think they only called out to tell the younger kids to come in, otherwise we were on our own. You ate what was put before you, and bowed your head in thankful prayer. You said yes ma'am and no sir to adults, and you removed your hat when you entered a building.

Life has changed so much. We've done great damage to Mother Earth. We have cheated our kids out of simpler times of making do with what you had, and having to rely on your imagination.
 
I was born in 1951 and we moved to Texas when I was seven. We walked everywhere too. Two miles to the library and to the A&P and TG&Y, and on Saturdays we'd walk to the movies. You could get in, get a coke and popcorn or a coke and candybar with a dollar. In the summer we dared each other to walk barefoot across the street or in how long one could stand in the hot melting asphalt.

We learned to avoid stinging nettles and bullheads. We made Indian villages out of hay in the barn and the cowboys were out in the pasture, and we fished in the stock pond. During the heat of the day you read or watched soap operas with your mother and Icky Twerp and Slambang Theater in the afternoon before dinner. At noon each day the fire station blew a whistle and you knew it was lunchtime.

After dinner you stayed out and played Mother May I, Red Rover, freeze tag, and crack the whip. We'd catch Horny Toads, frogs and lizards, and at night lightening bugs and watch for shooting stars. We'd only go in to take a cool bath, sprinkle Cashmere Bouquet on the sheets and you'd be out like a light.

I can't remember mine (or anyone's) parents checking on us. I think they only called out to tell the younger kids to come in, otherwise we were on our own. You ate what was put before you, and bowed your head in thankful prayer. You said yes ma'am and no sir to adults, and you removed your hat when you entered a building.

Life has changed so much. We've done great damage to Mother Earth. We have cheated our kids out of simpler times of making do with what you had, and having to rely on your imagination.

It was the best of times and we never knew it at the time. Thanks for that trip back.....I really enjoyed it.
 
It was the best of times and we never knew it at the time. Thanks for that trip back.....I really enjoyed it.

Oh my, please forgive me, for just jumping in here -- I always read from last to first -- yesssssss, it's amazing how life has changed -- I wouldn't let one of my three grandsons out of my sight for a minute no matter where we were today -- and my mother might not have see me from the time I left the house in the morning, until I came home for dinner -- I was all over the town -- sometimes by myself -- life has changed alot -- sniff.
 
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