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Hey Y/N. I am ok. Took off work today and enjoyed the warm (85 degrees) sunshine.

It was warm here today, too, and rained off and on.
Had a big storm tonight, also.
Hope you had a good day.
Love your new avatar. Where did you find a moving picture?
 
Just curious about something that those of you who have followed cases and trials may know.

When this trial concludes, I know that the prosecution team are able to speak freely about both the case and the trial. What, if anything, can the defense team discuss? I understand that there are issues of client confidentiality. As long as they do not breach that, can they discuss strategy and their opinions as to whether or not she was telling the truth?

If so, maybe Nurmi can retire early. He'd make a fortune off of a book as long as he had a ghostwriter and a damn good proofreader...after all, we have read his motions and know of his writing ability. :floorlaugh:

I have no idea, so I second your questions! How does the client confidentiality work as far as defendant and defense team....is it in effect for the life of the client? Will he ever be able to give his own thoughts about the case? I'm really curious too, I would definately buy his book. But I don't want one of those books where we learn nothing new....I wanna know actually what exactly he thought of Jodi and what she did and how he thinks she did it.
 
Just dropping by to check in and see how y'all are doing in here, and to tell of our walk of faith and trust.

Yesterday my nephew turned forty-six years old; a day my family thought wouldn't happen. It's been a walk of "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen", since December tenth last year. His brother told me that Richard started feeling really bad, could barely walk and they called 911, when ems got there they told him that Richard might not make it to the hospital. When he got there they discovered that his arota had ruptured in two places, and they started looking around for a hospital that could do the repair and handle any complications, UT Southwestern said they had a team that could go soon, so he was Careflited to St.Paul, and we were told again that he might not make it the though the 10 minute flight.

My sister said they told them to go ahead and start to St. Paul, that they'd be there before them, and they saw the helicopter going over them as they drove , and they pulled up as they were taking him out and into the ER. He then had an eight hour open heart surgery, and had family and friends fill the waiting room with prayer and hope. His doctors came out and told us he was doing good, no damage to his heart (in fact, they said his heart was in very good condition,), that between 75 to 90 % percent of those with a tear ( John Ritter had one and died before he hit the floor), don't make it to surgery.


On Wednesday afternoon he had a stroke and was move down to Zale Lipsky, where he had surgery to remove his skull cap. He had some wonderful nurses and they went with him and stayed with him that night in recovery.
When I drove up to the valet parking I saw an ambulance, and they were taking him out as I was walking toward the door, and I told them that he was mine, thanks for taking care of him and they asked if I wanted to go in the elevator with them, and you know I said yep, and rode up with him. He looked so bad. Stitches down his chest, tubes about every where there could be. It was hard to maintain and not cry.

The nurses had called ahead and had pizza and sandwiches set out for us in a waiting room that every hospital should have. Comfortable recliners with blankets, a kitchen, an outdoor patio and a view of downtown Dallas. There were cards, jigsaw puzzles, books, and magazines on tables help pass the time to. We couldn't complain about anything, it had all been taken care of for us.

His doctor told us they were removing a section of the right side of his skull so it could swell and hopefully not cause further damage, but he came out after and told my sister that he saw 80% dead brain and wasn't sure if he'd make it or what quality of life he'd have. It was not what we wanted to hear, but we were prepared for whatever happened.

My brother went in to see him for a few minutes on Friday afternoon, and they had my nephew woke up a little doing maintenance and vitals, and when he heard my brother speak to him he opened his eyes and gave a thumbs up. We had been told about loss of hearing and vision and it gave us hope. I saw him the next afternoon and he was a little awake then and he nodded his head when I spoke, and when I was leaving I touched his left foot and he moved it. We had been told he was paralyzed on his left side, and that small response was wonderful to see.
On Monday his blood test showed that the MRSA bacteria present and gloved and gowned up til her left the hospital.

He went through much more. He was sent back down to St. Paul for a second surgery because of seepage from one of the staples holding his breastplate together: then a temperature of 106, and fluid on his pancreas that turned out to be a yeast infection because of all of antibiotics he was on. He was in ICU and on a ventilator for almost two months, and in late February he finally was moved to a regular room, and his sons took turns staying with him at night and one of us during the day.

He was sent back to Zale Lipsky for his stroke and rehabilitation and was there until April. My sister had a meeting with his doctors and they said he had made all the progress he could and would be in a nursing home the rest of his life, and she said her boy wouldn't be in one; he was coming home with her and he was released April tenth. It was beyond amazing in how things fell into place to get his room ready, and again family and friends lined up to sit with him and take care of his needs, and we settled him in and learned as he did, in how to take care of him. He still had an IV, a drain for his pancreas and more antibiotics until it was taken out in late May.

At his last doctor visit and more x rays and cat scans his doctor asked him what happened to his spleen. It was there in April but was missing in his September scans. One of life's little mysteries I guess.

He is in therapy and can walk with a crutch device for short distances, and they are getting longer each day. When he thinks real hard he can move his right hand and it is also getting better. His therapists told us they have seen people walk after being told they never would again and they didn't give up on them.

His sisters, his brother, our kids, and his friends stayed with him all that long night, just wanting to be close and not leave him all alone, and took pictures of him so he could see how far he'd come when he got out, and they made a video for him of their thoughts and memories of their times they had with him, (They all had grown up with family vacations; we were like a caravan traveling in mass to Eureka Springs,, Turner Falls, where we had annual trips to a big lodge that could sleep over twenty people and to many lakes and state parks, until my two sisters and I built a family cabin in East Texas) and how much he meant to each one of them.
They have plans on taking him to the cabin, smoking a brisket and ribs (his favorite foods) watch it with him, sit out under the stars he's fished under many years, telling stories and tall tales until early morning, and maybe it's rain and he can fall asleep with the sound of rain falling on the metal roof.


We've made the mistake of teaching him Canasta and now he calls me everyday around lunchtime and tells me I'm late and I go play a few hands with him. Next week I'm teaching him to play chess and I know he'll chase me around the board until he captures my queen and I give up, but hes' worth every bit of it.


Anyway thanks for the shoulder, It's always there when needed.
 
Nurmi needs a new career. Whatever he is going through, he should not be assigned to Death Penalty cases. He can stick with traffic and simple drug possession. This was a no win case, however, they got a bit of a win on the no Death Penalty in the first go round. That is more than can be expected with the evidence, confession, and uncooperative client.




Don't know the next Court date, but nothing will be happening as far as a new penalty phase until some time after the new year. Courts are heavily booked (and all lawyers including Juan, lol), and this is expected to take more than a couple of days.


Nurmi's new law practice, which he wanted to bail on Jodi for, is one of defending sexual predators and child molesters.


Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
Have you been accused
of committing a sexual offense?
Call me now 24/7 (602) 285-6947
I can provide you with aggressive representation against
any accusation that you committed a sexual offense.
Sexual Assault • Sex Conduct with a Minor • Indecent Exposure
Sexual Exploitation of a Minor • Sexual Abuse • Molestation of a Child

At the Law Office of L. Kirk Nurmi we understand that you do not have to commit a sexual offense to be accused of being a sex offender. We understand that innocent people can be accused of sex crimes such as sexual assault, sex conduct with a minor or sexual exploitation of a minor, or any sex offense with very little evidence. We also understand that being accused of committing such a crime is devastating and daunting. However, we also understand that the legal consequences are very serious and that if you are accused of a sex crime you need an attorney who has the experience and knowledge needed to provide you with an aggressive defense. Our results speak for themselves:

Sex Assault – NOT GUILTY

Sex Assault / Unlawful Imprisonment – NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

Sexual Exploitation of a Minor (10 counts) – NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

Sex Conduct with a Minor, Sexual Assault – ALL COUNTS DISMISSED

Call (602) 285-6947 Today

So if you find yourself accused of such a crime and you seek competent aggressive representation call our office at (602) 285-6947 for a Free Telephonic Consultation.

Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
2314 E Osborne Road
Phoenix, Arizona 85016

(602) 285-6947

Mr. Nurmi is licensed to practice in Arizona

Copyright © 2013 Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi

And Jennifer Wilmont trains trial lawyers ,you'd think she would of done better.
 
Nurmi's new law practice, which he wanted to bail on Jodi for, is one of defending sexual predators and child molesters.


Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
Have you been accused
of committing a sexual offense?
Call me now 24/7 (602) 285-6947
I can provide you with aggressive representation against
any accusation that you committed a sexual offense.
Sexual Assault • Sex Conduct with a Minor • Indecent Exposure
Sexual Exploitation of a Minor • Sexual Abuse • Molestation of a Child

At the Law Office of L. Kirk Nurmi we understand that you do not have to commit a sexual offense to be accused of being a sex offender. We understand that innocent people can be accused of sex crimes such as sexual assault, sex conduct with a minor or sexual exploitation of a minor, or any sex offense with very little evidence. We also understand that being accused of committing such a crime is devastating and daunting. However, we also understand that the legal consequences are very serious and that if you are accused of a sex crime you need an attorney who has the experience and knowledge needed to provide you with an aggressive defense. Our results speak for themselves:

Sex Assault – NOT GUILTY

Sex Assault / Unlawful Imprisonment – NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

Sexual Exploitation of a Minor (10 counts) – NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

Sex Conduct with a Minor, Sexual Assault – ALL COUNTS DISMISSED

Call (602) 285-6947 Today

So if you find yourself accused of such a crime and you seek competent aggressive representation call our office at (602) 285-6947 for a Free Telephonic Consultation.

Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
2314 E Osborne Road
Phoenix, Arizona 85016

(602) 285-6947

Mr. Nurmi is licensed to practice in Arizona

Copyright © 2013 Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi

And Jennifer Wilmont trains trial lawyers ,you'd think she would of done better.

I know we all deserve the right to a defense but really says a lot about him imo no moral compass

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ILiketoBendPages,

Your post is one of both the mysteries of life and its miracles. It is hard to fathom all that your nephew and your family have gone through. Prayers for continued strength, recovery and precious time together.
 
Really can't see a trial date until well into 2014. Just putting off the inevitable.

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Wonder what impact, if any, yesterday's proceedings had on CMJA and how that will affect her use of social media moving forward through this trial?

I imagine that David Bodner and Jaun Martinez excoriated her for her use of media, social and otherwise, in their oral arguments yesterday. And not in a one sentence summation. Whether this just rolled off her back like water on a duck is something that I cannot pretend to know.

In spite of every warning that Willmott, Nurmi and previous counsel may have given her, she got blasted yesterday in a different way. This was not friendly talk to her. This was talk about her, in a most unflattering way to the judge and not to her. She was an "it" in the oral argument.

Then again, the person in question has some very warped defense mechanisms, so who knows? She could have taken it all as a compliment.

I will be very curious to see if this convicted killer tweets again or posts another blog before her next jury is seated.

If I had to bet, my money would be on yup, she'll be back. Might be a week or two or more, but doncha know, the girl just can't help it.
 
breaking news over here that a team of navy seals have captured ahmed abi aw-mohamed one of the leaders of al Shabaab (group responsible for westgate mall attack) is there anyone on US tv?
 
breaking news over here that a team of navy seals have captured ahmed abi aw-mohamed one of the leaders of al Shabaab (group responsible for westgate mall attack) is there anyone on US tv?

i will check, i love our navy seals, and all of the US military, god bless them
 
breaking news over here that a team of navy seals have captured ahmed abi aw-mohamed one of the leaders of al Shabaab (group responsible for westgate mall attack) is there anyone on US tv?

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Hi Josie, I havent seen anything yet. I'll check and let you know.

Josie, it is on CNN. they aren't saying right out for sure he was caught but the way its worded I'd say its true. Seals came in went right into his house. They didnt say anything here until the Seals were out I gather. Thanks so much.

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this was a mission with Kenya. They are showing a lot of video. Al maybe dead if I heard right.
 
breaking news over here that a team of navy seals have captured ahmed abi aw-mohamed one of the leaders of al Shabaab (group responsible for westgate mall attack) is there anyone on US tv?

I haven't seen anything so far-will keep an eye out for any news.
 
breaking news over here that a team of navy seals have captured ahmed abi aw-mohamed one of the leaders of al Shabaab (group responsible for westgate mall attack) is there anyone on US tv?

It's made the news here, but it is not headline news. Story is buried and I had to look to find it.

Says a lot about this country and what is considered newsworthy or not.
 
really surprised that its not been headlined,i thought that was pretty important.

they really need to find the white widow, embarrassed that Britain produced such an evil person.
 
We will learn more in days to come. Seals had to get out because they became under fire. As far as they know no Seals were hurt or killed. They didnt know whether they killed the guy or not. That is the Seals didnt know.
Abu Anas ? has been captured in Libya!!:drumroll: he's a big wig in al Qeada.(?) this is coming from the Pentagon.:scared: the US. Special Forces were in this.
Two missions. One Libya, one Somalia..hope I got it all right!:seeya:
 
Just dropping by to check in and see how y'all are doing in here, and to tell of our walk of faith and trust.

Yesterday my nephew turned forty-six years old; a day my family thought wouldn't happen. It's been a walk of "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen", since December tenth last year. His brother told me that Richard started feeling really bad, could barely walk and they called 911, when ems got there they told him that Richard might not make it to the hospital. When he got there they discovered that his arota had ruptured in two places, and they started looking around for a hospital that could do the repair and handle any complications, UT Southwestern said they had a team that could go soon, so he was Careflited to St.Paul, and we were told again that he might not make it the though the 10 minute flight.

My sister said they told them to go ahead and start to St. Paul, that they'd be there before them, and they saw the helicopter going over them as they drove , and they pulled up as they were taking him out and into the ER. He then had an eight hour open heart surgery, and had family and friends fill the waiting room with prayer and hope. His doctors came out and told us he was doing good, no damage to his heart (in fact, they said his heart was in very good condition,), that between 75 to 90 % percent of those with a tear ( John Ritter had one and died before he hit the floor), don't make it to surgery.


On Wednesday afternoon he had a stroke and was move down to Zale Lipsky, where he had surgery to remove his skull cap. He had some wonderful nurses and they went with him and stayed with him that night in recovery.
When I drove up to the valet parking I saw an ambulance, and they were taking him out as I was walking toward the door, and I told them that he was mine, thanks for taking care of him and they asked if I wanted to go in the elevator with them, and you know I said yep, and rode up with him. He looked so bad. Stitches down his chest, tubes about every where there could be. It was hard to maintain and not cry.

The nurses had called ahead and had pizza and sandwiches set out for us in a waiting room that every hospital should have. Comfortable recliners with blankets, a kitchen, an outdoor patio and a view of downtown Dallas. There were cards, jigsaw puzzles, books, and magazines on tables help pass the time to. We couldn't complain about anything, it had all been taken care of for us.

His doctor told us they were removing a section of the right side of his skull so it could swell and hopefully not cause further damage, but he came out after and told my sister that he saw 80% dead brain and wasn't sure if he'd make it or what quality of life he'd have. It was not what we wanted to hear, but we were prepared for whatever happened.

My brother went in to see him for a few minutes on Friday afternoon, and they had my nephew woke up a little doing maintenance and vitals, and when he heard my brother speak to him he opened his eyes and gave a thumbs up. We had been told about loss of hearing and vision and it gave us hope. I saw him the next afternoon and he was a little awake then and he nodded his head when I spoke, and when I was leaving I touched his left foot and he moved it. We had been told he was paralyzed on his left side, and that small response was wonderful to see.
On Monday his blood test showed that the MRSA bacteria present and gloved and gowned up til her left the hospital.

He went through much more. He was sent back down to St. Paul for a second surgery because of seepage from one of the staples holding his breastplate together: then a temperature of 106, and fluid on his pancreas that turned out to be a yeast infection because of all of antibiotics he was on. He was in ICU and on a ventilator for almost two months, and in late February he finally was moved to a regular room, and his sons took turns staying with him at night and one of us during the day.

He was sent back to Zale Lipsky for his stroke and rehabilitation and was there until April. My sister had a meeting with his doctors and they said he had made all the progress he could and would be in a nursing home the rest of his life, and she said her boy wouldn't be in one; he was coming home with her and he was released April tenth. It was beyond amazing in how things fell into place to get his room ready, and again family and friends lined up to sit with him and take care of his needs, and we settled him in and learned as he did, in how to take care of him. He still had an IV, a drain for his pancreas and more antibiotics until it was taken out in late May.

At his last doctor visit and more x rays and cat scans his doctor asked him what happened to his spleen. It was there in April but was missing in his September scans. One of life's little mysteries I guess.

He is in therapy and can walk with a crutch device for short distances, and they are getting longer each day. When he thinks real hard he can move his right hand and it is also getting better. His therapists told us they have seen people walk after being told they never would again and they didn't give up on them.

His sisters, his brother, our kids, and his friends stayed with him all that long night, just wanting to be close and not leave him all alone, and took pictures of him so he could see how far he'd come when he got out, and they made a video for him of their thoughts and memories of their times they had with him, (They all had grown up with family vacations; we were like a caravan traveling in mass to Eureka Springs,, Turner Falls, where we had annual trips to a big lodge that could sleep over twenty people and to many lakes and state parks, until my two sisters and I built a family cabin in East Texas) and how much he meant to each one of them.
They have plans on taking him to the cabin, smoking a brisket and ribs (his favorite foods) watch it with him, sit out under the stars he's fished under many years, telling stories and tall tales until early morning, and maybe it's rain and he can fall asleep with the sound of rain falling on the metal roof.


We've made the mistake of teaching him Canasta and now he calls me everyday around lunchtime and tells me I'm late and I go play a few hands with him. Next week I'm teaching him to play chess and I know he'll chase me around the board until he captures my queen and I give up, but hes' worth every bit of it.


Anyway thanks for the shoulder, It's always there when needed.

What a beautiful post! I'm so thankful for you and your family. :blowkiss:
 
CNN is full of the news. They do have Abu Anas. He is linked to bombinggs at US. embassies. Full name: Abu Anas Al Libi~ boy try spitting that one out.:floorlaugh:
 
really surprised that its not been headlined,i thought that was pretty important.

they really need to find the white widow, embarrassed that Britain produced such an evil person.

I think they waited to have their ducks in a row..
dont worry about the widow, we all have rotten apples.:seeya:
 
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