SIDEBAR #21- Arias/Alexander forum

[Tulessa]

Hi Tulessa. Here's a pretty comprehensive time-line/murder-line for Israel Keyes. One evil man.

Done alot of research on him. I even found the sermon they preached at his funeral. I posted it in the IK forum.

 

[21merc7]

Studio:

Tori Amos - Winter - YouTube

Live:

Tori Amos - Winter (From "Live At Montreux 91/92") - YouTube

 

[josie1986]

watching the lifetime movie again,had to record it as i missed it when it aired and i swear i can feel the rage building up :floorlaugh:

i don't know how i can utterly hate someone so much but i do.

she needs to go crawl under a rock until she is executed (fingers crossed)

 

[Nore]

watching the lifetime movie again,had to record it as i missed it when it aired and i swear i can feel the rage building up :floorlaugh:

i don't know how i can utterly hate someone so much but i do.

she needs to go crawl under a rock until she is executed (fingers crossed)

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Me too Josie. Thats why I havent watched and have no plans to. I get too riled up.:floorlaugh: :seeya:

 

[Karmady]

I would take the word of someone incompetent to stand trial any day over CMJA. Besides, it was a good story. And CMJA just better hope she doesn't face news charges for threatening the life of three upstanding people. Especially the Prosecutor who is only doing his job! And whoever is tweeting for the CM needs to get a clue.

I disagree. It's not a "good story." It's taking advantage of a mentally ill person for financial gain. I handn't read the court order that's been linked until today, but no television station has any business putting this woman on camera for any reason-especially to hype the jodi arias case. I wonder where that interview was filmed and who allowed it and for how much money. Imo, it's disgusting.

And Arias could never "face charges" based on the allegations of mentally incompetent person. That would be a scary precedent. Imagine being charged with a crime because Jared Loughner or Adam Lanza said you did it. Not to mention the fact that it's totally incredible, imo. Jodi wonders why Juan doesn't "love her." lol Not jodiesque at all imo

all jmo

 

[magpie]

Imagine spending Thanksgiving day in a tiny cement cell, sitting on a metal bunkbed, eating soy turkey and a cupful of mushy carrots off a tray, a few feet away from a toilet. Alone. No family within hundreds of miles and a lifetime away. No friends anywhere missing you on a day of togetherness, and even your handfuls of gullible sycophants who cling to your infamy are elsewhere, forgetting you for at least the day.

Imagine knowing that even this empty lonely Thanksgiving might be as good as it will ever be again, that next year's will be spent in a prison you'll never walk out of alive, where pink underwear, pink sheets, soy turkey and occasional brief trips outside to a courtroom will seem like the good old days.

I don't feel any sympathy for the butcher. On days like Thanksgiving, though, its easier to see how meaningless her manipulations are now that she is no more than a convicted murderer. She's powerless, stripped of being able to control any part of her own life, much less any one else's. All that's left for her is to hope she still has an audience for her pathetic attempts to create drama. Maybe her delusions made that soy turkey taste real. Somehow I doubt they did.

Very well said Hope4More! :clap: I hadn't thought what Thanksgiving must be like for her, but it must really suck to be her, today and every day. I bet she will be lucky to get a little peppermint stick on her tray for a Christmas treat. :jail:

 

[magpie]

Where has everyone been?


Anyone in the uk. ..lifetime channel are airing dirty little secret again tonight 9 PM.


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Rats! I guess I've missed it again. :tantrum: I'm going to go check my DirecTV guide to see if it's on again soon in the US. :seeya: Hi everybody!

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Edit to add: It sucks for Lifetime I suppose, but with a little googling I found the entire movie without commercials on YouTube:

Jodi Arias: Dirty Little Secret (FULL HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrJ6gCPzpc4

Choose your screen size on YouTube. I'm playing it on Fullscreen with no problem.

 

[josie1986]

how is everyone today?

i am still trying to get my head around the helicopter crash that happened where i live....so any people devastated by it

 

[Love Never Fails]

I disagree. It's not a "good story." It's taking advantage of a mentally ill person for financial gain. I handn't read the court order that's been linked until today, but no television station has any business putting this woman on camera for any reason-especially to hype the jodi arias case. I wonder where that interview was filmed and who allowed it and for how much money. Imo, it's disgusting.

And Arias could never "face charges" based on the allegations of mentally incompetent person. That would be a scary precedent. Imagine being charged with a crime because Jared Loughner or Adam Lanza said you did it. Not to mention the fact that it's totally incredible, imo. Jodi wonders why Juan doesn't "love her." lol Not jodiesque at all imo

all jmo

Hi Karmady,
I posted an answer to this but it got lost somewhere when I hit the post button. Iwill try again. :scared:

 

[Love Never Fails]

I disagree. It's not a "good story." It's taking advantage of a mentally ill person for financial gain. I handn't read the court order that's been linked until today, but no television station has any business putting this woman on camera for any reason-especially to hype the jodi arias case. I wonder where that interview was filmed and who allowed it and for how much money. Imo, it's disgusting.

And Arias could never "face charges" based on the allegations of mentally incompetent person. That would be a scary precedent. Imagine being charged with a crime because Jared Loughner or Adam Lanza said you did it. Not to mention the fact that it's totally incredible, imo. Jodi wonders why Juan doesn't "love her." lol Not jodiesque at all imo

all jmo

Hi Karmady,
I understand your opinion. I see CMJA and this story differently. Troy Hayden and Fox News are reputable and I feel he may have some backup information we have not heard. I do not think this particular story was about financial gain.

It is true that every single day people let the police know about a serious threat and they can do nothing because the crime hasn't yet occurred. So what happens? People are murdered every day because the police have their hands tied. Protective orders certainly do no good in most cases.

Back to this "mentally ill" woman. It is possible that she was ruled mentally incompetent to stand trial because she had a good attorney arguing on her behalf. It happens. I still believe every word she said and here is why.

CMJA is narcissistic in the worst way. I am sure she cannot understand why Flores and Martinez and Travis' family did not buy her self defense and innocent act. When she wrote that 18 page letter to his grandmother, she probably believed that would exonerate her in his family's eyes. Yes the CM is that sick.

For me, there is nothing "incredible" about this witness's story. She is just being honest about what she was told in jail. And don't forget that NG and TH both went to the jail and talked to other inmates and they were totally swooned by CMJA.

For me, there is something totally real about this witness's story and I hope it is investigated fully. All MOO.

 

[Karmady]

Hi Karmady,
I understand your opinion. I see CMJA and this story differently. Troy Hayden and Fox News are reputable and I feel he may have some backup information we have not heard. I do not think this particular story was about financial gain.

It is true that every single day people let the police know about a serious threat and they can do nothing because the crime hasn't yet occurred. So what happens? People are murdered every day because the police have their hands tied. Protective orders certainly do no good in most cases.

Back to this "mentally ill" woman. It is possible that she was ruled mentally incompetent to stand trial because she had a good attorney arguing on her behalf. It happens. I still believe every word she said and here is why.

CMJA is narcissistic in the worst way. I am sure she cannot understand why Flores and Martinez and Travis' family did not buy her self defense and innocent act. When she wrote that 18 page letter to his grandmother, she probably believed that would exonerate her in his family's eyes. Yes the CM is that sick.

For me, there is nothing "incredible" about this witness's story. She is just being honest about what she was told in jail. And don't forget that NG and TH both went to the jail and talked to other inmates and they were totally swooned by CMJA.

For me, there is something totally real about this witness's story and I hope it is investigated fully. All MOO.

Hiya, Curious. I'm just surfing right now as a diversion from work, so I don't have the bandwidth to type out my full thoughts on this. Just wanted to say Hi and that I'll try to explain myself better later :seeya:

 

[Nore]

Hi Karmady,
I posted an answer to this but it got lost somewhere when I hit the post button. Iwill try again. :scared:

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I just lost a huge one! I am really P O'd.. I know they wont act on a mentally ill person but even so I think she speaks the truth. That sounds like JA.. I am so fed up with this poor excuse of a woman I could spit! Who in the he!! does she think she is!! She wants the jurors twitter names!! Pardon me Queen Chit but doesnt the public have rights of privacy? I would refuse to be on the jury if this is ruled as law, I would go to jail first!! I'm glad I dont live in AZ. as I would have to go and at least tell that piece of &rap off. I wish the Prosecutor would drop the DP. let the Judge sentence her to LWOP!! Juan you have done an excellent job now let her go. Twenty years down the road no one would let her go anyway! Look at Manson and his crew. We had a situation here a year ago. We needed legal help, were eligible but NOT ONE attorney would help! We had to go with the lawyer overseeing on the courts side. I might add he did a beautiful job Thank God. No one was hurt or maimeed in this case, no robbery etc. yet this piece of chit who sliced a man to death gets all this free help. Nurmi has done all the can, Mr. Nurmi tell her to go to he!! you did your job abd then some. If these guys dont have ulcers I dont know who will. Thanks to all for letting me vent. I've been holding this in~ for the sake of my ulcerative colitis I had to let it out. :loveyou:
:seeya:

 

[geevee]

I think she has a crush on Troy Hayden.

 

[josie1986]

I think she has a crush on Troy Hayden.

She has a crush on anything with a male appendage :floorlaugh:

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[ElleElle]

I think she has a crush on Troy Hayden.

Yup, she sure does. I think there was a tweet from CMJA stating something like- "don't trust people with nice smiles". I believed she was referring to dear ol' Troy.

And he is HOT!

 

[ElleElle]

I wonder if any family members (mother, father, sister, brother, aunt) have visited her lately. She is slowly suffering. This is one of the reasons I don't believe in DP. She can rot in jail.

 

[Quiet Time]

josie1986,

Your singing is beautiful. Gave me goosebumps...
You belong in a concert hall, with your powerful voice.
Keep on belting out those tunes, please.

 

[geevee]

Yup, she sure does. I think there was a tweet from CMJA stating something like- "don't trust people with nice smiles". I believed she was referring to dear ol' Troy.

And he is HOT!

He is a cutie.

 

[geevee]

I wonder if any family members (mother, father, sister, brother, aunt) have visited her lately. She is slowly suffering. This is one of the reasons I don't believe in DP. She can rot in jail.

Yes, I think the proper punishment for her crimes (all of them, murder, character assassination, countless lies, dog kicking...) is for her to live to a ripe old age, in a cell, with little more than her own thoughts and memories to keep her company. Some sense of sanity and truth will eventually invade her dogmatic, obstinate denials and will drive her to a level of insanity she never fathomed existed, much less become a part of her every waking and dreaming moment.

I abhor violence or even intentionally hurting anyone's feelings, but for the simple fact that she still refuses to tell the truth of what she did to Travis, in the face of all of the evidence, she deserves this punishment, not to be relented or lightened until she has come clean, wholly and with no reservations or equivocations.

I could never forgive her actions, but she *might* merit a modicum of sympathy if she would only be honest. I believe this to be beyond her, as our definition of honesty is a foreign concept to her.

So she shall be caged, to age, and think, and remember, and suffer. She could have changed her fate, even as late as this past January, but she defiantly chose not to. To each their own.

 

[Nore]

Yes, I think the proper punishment for her crimes (all of them, murder, character assassination, countless lies, dog kicking...) is for her to live to a ripe old age, in a cell, with little more than her own thoughts and memories to keep her company. Some sense of sanity and truth will eventually invade her dogmatic, obstinate denials and will drive her to a level of insanity she never fathomed existed, much less become a part of her every waking and dreaming moment.

I abhor violence or even intentionally hurting anyone's feelings, but for the simple fact that she still refuses to tell the truth of what she did to Travis, in the face of all of the evidence, she deserves this punishment, not to be relented or lightened until she has come clean, wholly and with no reservations or equivocations.

I could never forgive her actions, but she *might* merit a modicum of sympathy if she would only be honest. I believe this to be beyond her, as our definition of honesty is a foreign concept to her.

So she shall be caged, to age, and think, and remember, and suffer. She could have changed her fate, even as late as this past January, but she defiantly chose not to. To each their own.

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I dont think she will ever speak up. The reason being the truth would really make people mad at her. She had no reason to kill Travis. If everything she said is true all she had to do was walk out and STAY out of Arizona!! If someone is beating a person with words, why stay for more.. she wanted more, she wanted it all and thought she had him trained her way.Well, she didnt, so no one would have him. I know the first time a guy would have tried that crap on me I would have been out of there. I felt different in the beginning, maybe he was "making her do things" but I feel wait a minute! all that piece of a human being had to do was walk and hang up. It was over. She enjoyed every second of it. She thought she could do the same to another man. It didnt work..I agree with you. Having her in prison the rest of her life will be like death but not dying. She will never be happy again. :loveyou: