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What a crock! They should all suffer the pain they caused the victim. Last one went down with one shot. I guess they are out of that too. What about an O/D Propofol? (sp)..Theres another one due up next month I believe or March. Check China.:laughcry: :panic:

China? Yes, they have everything! :floorlaugh:
 
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Yeah!! you havent seen much of me either! My problem~ by the time I get back to the board, cant remember what I read.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::lol::okay:

BBM

I'm catching up to you, gramma :floorlaugh:

(you're here more than some :rocker:)

Here's some Saturday funnies:
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Grandchildren are God's reward for not killing your children.
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(this one is not funny-it's beautiful, IMO)

An elderly woman and her little grandson, whose face was sprinkled with bright

freckles, spent the day at the zoo. Lots of children were waiting in line to get

their cheeks painted by a local artist who was decorating them with tiger

paws. "You've got so many freckles, there's no place to paint!" A girl in the

line said to the little fella. Embarrassed, the little boy dropped his head.


His grandmother knelt down next to him. "I love your freckles. When I was a

little girl I always wanted freckles, she said, while tracing her finger across the

child's cheek. "Freckles are beautiful!"

The boy looked up, "Really?"

"Of course," said the grandmother. "Why, just name me one thing that's

prettier than freckles."

The little boy thought for a moment, peered intensely into his grandma's face,

and softly whispered, "Wrinkles." :blowkiss:
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As a new bride, Aunt Edna moved into the small home on her husband's ranch

near Snowflake, Arizona. She put a shoe box on a shelf in her closet and

asked her husband never to touch it.

For fifty years Uncle Jack left the box alone, until Aunt Edna was old and

dying. One day when he was putting their affairs in order, he found the box

again and thought it might hold something important. Opening it, he found two doilies and $82,500 in cash. He took the box to her and asked about the contents.

"My mother gave me that box the day we married," she explained. "She told

me to make a doily to help ease my frustrations every time I got mad at you."

Uncle Jack was very touched that in 50 years she'd only been mad at him

twice. "What's the $82,500 for?" he asked.

"Oh, that's the money I made selling the doilies."
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At age 4 success is not peeing in your pants.

At age 12 success is having friends.

At age 16 success is having a drivers license.

At age 20 success is having sex.

At age 35 success is having money.

At age 50 success is having money.

At age 60 success is having sex.

At age 70 success is having a drivers license.

At age 80 success is having friends.

At age 90 success is not peeing in your pants.

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WHEN I'M AN OLD LADY

When I'm an old lady, I'll live with my son,

And make his life happy and filled with such fun,

I want to pay back all the joy he's provided,

Returning each deed. Oh, he'll be so excited

.....When I'm an old lady and live with my son.


I'll write on the wall with red, white, and blue;

And bounce on the furniture wearing my shoes.

I'll drink from the carton and then leave it out.

I'll stuff all the toilets and oh, will he shout!

.....When I'm an old lady and live with my son.


When he's on the phone and just out of reach,

I'll get into things like sugar and bleach.

Oh, he'll snap his fingers and then shake his head,

And when he is done I'll hide under the bed.

.....When I'm an old lady and live with my son.


When my son's wife cooks dinner and calls me to meals,

I'll not eat my green beans or salads congealed.

I'll gag on my okra, spill milk on the table,

And when she gets angry, run fast as I'm able.

..... When I'm an old lady and live with my son.


I'll sit close to the TV, thru the channels I'll click,

I'll cross both my eyes to see if they stick,

I'll take off my socks and throw one away,

And play in the mud until the end of the day.

.....When I'm an old lady and live with my son.


And later, in bed, I'll lay back and sigh,

And thank God in prayer and then close my eyes;

And my son will look down with a smile slowly creeping, :blowkiss:

.....When I'm an old lady and live with my son.
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Coffee in bed

A sweet little boy surprised his grandmother one morning and brought her a

cup of coffee. He made it himself and was so proud. He anxiously waited to

hear the verdict on the quality of the coffee.

The grandmother had never in her life had such a bad cup of coffee, and as

she forced down the last sip she noticed three of those little green army guys

in the bottom of the cup. She asked, "Honey, why would three little green

army guys be in the bottom of my cup?"

Her grandson replied, "You know grandma, it's like on TV...'The best part of

waking up is soldiers in your cup
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A very elderly gentleman, (mid nineties) very well dressed, hair well groomed,

great looking suit, flower in his lapel smelling slightly of a good after shave,

presenting a well looked after image, walks into an upscale cocktail lounge.

Seated at the bar is an elderly looking lady, (mid eighties).

The gentleman walks over, sits along side of her, orders a drink, takes a sip,

turns to her and says: "So tell me, do I come here often?"
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This 86 year old man goes for his regular cardiology visit. Two days later, the

cardiologist sees the old man walking on the street.....with a gorgeous, young

blond draped over his arm.

The cardiologist calls the old man aside. "Just what do you think you're doing?"

"Just taking your advice", the old man replies...."Get a 'Hot Mama', and be

cheerful!"
The cardiologist shakes his head..."No", he replies, "What I said was: You've

got a heart murmur, be careful!"
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A seventy-four-year-old man is sitting on a park bench, shaking and sobbing.

A young man walks by and asks, "What seems to be the problem?"

Through his tears the old man answers, "I'm in love with a twenty-two-year-

old woman."

"What's wrong with that?" asks the young man.

Between his sobs and sniffles, he answers, "You don't understand. Every

morning before she goes to work, we make love. At lunchtime she comes home

and we make love again, and then she makes my favorite meal. In the

afternoon when she gets a break, she rushes home and we make love again,

the best an old man could want. And then at supper time, and all night long,

we make love." The old man breaks down, sobbing, no longer able to speak.

The young man puts his arm around him. "I don't understand. It sounds like

you have the perfect relationship. Why are you crying?"

The old man answers, again through his tears, "I forgot where I live".
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Three old men are at the doctor for a memory test.

The doctor says to the first old man, "What is three times three?"

"274", was his reply.

The doctor says to the second man, "It's your turn. What is three times

three?" "Tuesday", replies the second man.

The doctor says to the third man, "OK, Your turn. What's three times three?"

"Nine" says the third man.

"That's great", says the doctor. "How did you get that?"

"Simple," says the third man. "I subtracted 274 from Tuesday".
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Two elderly women were eating at a restaurant one morning. Ethel noticed

something funny about Mabel's ear and she said, "Mabel, did you know you've

got a suppository in your left ear?"

Mabel answered, "I have? A suppository?" She pulled it out and stared at it.

Then she said, "Ethel, I'm glad you saw this thing.Now I think I know where

my hearing aid is."
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:seeya:
 
Hi- Josie and Kensie. :seeya:
Glad to see you.

How's the weather where you are?

We have 1' of snow and still coming down. :scared:
Hope the TV and internet don't go down.


:snowball:

(is something wrong with the smiley thingy? I can't seem to get the 2nd row. :scared:)
 
Hi- Josie and Kensie. :seeya:
Glad to see you.

How's the weather where you are?

We have 1' of snow and still coming down. :scared:
Hope the TV and internet don't go down.


:snowball:

(is something wrong with the smiley thingy? I can't seem to get the 2nd row. :scared:)

I'm personally glad fog is gone today!!!! Don't want snow~~would love return to summer! And since I'm from Seattle area think I'm obligated to say GO HAWKS!!!!
 
Sure. I get that but my point is that she did say he was a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. I disagree with her. I thought he was fairly normal. He most certainly was not abusive nor was he a swinger. IMO

Correct. But, he was having wild kinky sex and dating Mormon girls. That is, IMO kind of sleazy. Did Travis deserve what he got? Definitely not. However, this is just an opinion of the great fundamentals of this trial.
 
True, but how often do we see religious people fall to temptations like this, of a sexual nature. Even pastors, ministers, bishops, etc., not to mention all of the politicians that often have reputations of being the pillar of the community and with families, etc. And lets not forget the world of sports, think Tiger Woods , though not sure if he was religious at all, but had a beautiful wife and family.

Then, there was 30 y/o young, single, with a healthy appetite for sex Travis. Searching for a marriage partner..... and sex starved, when he met the " worst thing that has ever happened " to him. She flaunted her sexuality and he was too weak to resist, like a lot of men. While unfortunate , they were actually living and behaving like their generation does in today's culture. Well, Travis wasn't married, at least there is that.

Maybe not normal to us, certainly not acceptable by most of "our" standards, but sadly, all too common. :( I feel sure Travis felt this way in his own heart as well, which is why he broke it off with her. But she knew his weakness, she wouldn't leave him alone, she wouldn't let him go. He never realized until it was too late, that in Jodi, he had found his own personal Demon. :(

Reminds me of the "Scorned" episode I saw last night.

The psychologist was talking about the give and take as one partner has something the other partner wants, to the point it becomes an addiction, like a drug.

Jodi wanted to be Travis' forever wife and did anything to please him, and Travis just wanted the sex and nothing more. :( He was too nice to say NO to Jodi.
 
My youngest cat Tess likes to chase ice cubes. She comes running every time she hears the ice crusher running on the fridge door and waits for an errant large ice chip to fall. If one doesn't fall on the floor for her I will chunk a couple of the larger chips into her water bowl so she can fish them out and "fingerpaint" with them on my dark stone tile floor. :floorlaugh: Oh, and she never misses a toilet flush either!

Aren't we fools for our pets?!? :loveyou:

BBM ~ Yes, we sure are. I :loveyou: my :cat: 's.
 
Correct. But, he was having wild kinky sex and dating Mormon girls. That is, IMO kind of sleazy. Did Travis deserve what he got? Definitely not. However, this is just an opinion of the great fundamentals of this trial.
I think people are always hesitant to say anything but good about a victim. I don't think anybody on here would want a boyfriend or fiance who was doing what Travis was doing with JA. One of them should have walked away for good. I think TA wanted to have sex and then wanted JA to go away until the next time. He wanted a good Mormon wife, but couldn't behave that way with them, thus JA. She loved him and could not deal with the fact that she was not good enough for him. He was not being very nice in any sense of the word and was misleading lots of people. But JA could have put on her big girl panties and walked away. Her evil side had to get even though. I once knew somebody just like TA. It's a tragedy and never should have happened.
All moo
 
I think people are always hesitant to say anything but good about a victim. I don't think anybody on here would want a boyfriend or fiance who was doing what Travis was doing with JA. One of them should have walked away for good. I think TA wanted to have sex and then wanted JA to go away until the next time. He wanted a good Mormon wife, but couldn't behave that way with them, thus JA. She loved him and could not deal with the fact that she was not good enough for him. He was not being very nice in any sense of the word and was misleading lots of people. But JA could have put on her big girl panties and walked away. Her evil side had to get even though. I once knew somebody just like TA. It's a tragedy and never should have happened.
All moo
I'm tired of people calling Travis a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬! Yes he slept with Jodi while he was trying to be a good Mormon, but so what??? The only one who got hurt was Jodi, and she deserved every mean thing he ever said about her. Travis was trying to end the sex with her and settle down with one woman. Jodi kept luring him back with sex. He was only human.
 
I'm tired of people calling Travis a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬! Yes he slept with Jodi while he was trying to be a good Mormon, but so what??? The only one who got hurt was Jodi, and she deserved every mean thing he ever said about her. Travis was trying to end the sex with her and settle down with one woman. Jodi kept luring him back with sex. He was only human.

Yes, but if Travis would of just avoided Jodi altogether, he would not of led her to believe they were an item.

Why did he have long, phone sex conversations with her? His friends told him she was bad news.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 is not the nicest word, Travis was more naive then anything. He thought he could play the rubberband game with Jodi. She was not playing the same game. All :moo:
 
Yes, but if Travis would of just avoided Jodi altogether, he would not of led her to believe they were an item.

Why did he have long, phone sex conversations with her? His friends told him she was bad news.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 is not the nicest word, Travis was more naive then anything. He thought he could play the rubberband game with Jodi. She was not playing the same game. All :moo:
I think he was too nice of a guy, who didn't know how to say "no" and completely cut off ties with someone who was bad for him. I can't fault him for that, although I wish he'd had better judgement.
I still think Jodi would have thought they were an item, no matter what! It would've been hard even for the strongest person to get rid of her, she was a stalker!
 
I think he was too nice of a guy, who didn't know how to say "no" and completely cut off ties with someone who was bad for him. I can't fault him for that, although I wish he'd had better judgement.
I still think Jodi would have thought they were an item, no matter what! It would've been hard even for the strongest person to get rid of her, she was a stalker!

I agree with you. I really do not see anything 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬-ish. He seemed very normal to me. JA was a delusional low life piece of trash stalker.
 
It appears Travis did not know how to get rid of Jodi. It appears that Bobby did not know how to get rid of her. It appears Matt did not know how to get rid of her. The young man from Costa Rica certainly didn't want her around. And Darryl, whether he wanted her gone or not, was with her for 4 years but to our knowledge did not have a problem letting her go. Certainly did not fight to keep her around. So the problem was always Jodi. We do not know if Travis ever felt that they were dating exclusively. Jodi claims they had a lot of sex but if this is true why did Travis ask Dan Freeman and his sister to join them on a camping trip because he did not want to be alone with her. Obviously he did not trust Jodi. If he truly was really into all the fantasies Jodi claims then this would have been the perfect time to "tie her to a tree". People have fantasies but rarely do they act on them. I don't trust anything she did or set up with Travis after she returned to Yreka. I even think she deliberately trashed the BMW because she thought he might let her stay with him until she was able to get on her feet. JA manipulates. It's what she does. jmo
 
I agree with you. I really do not see anything 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬-ish. He seemed very normal to me. JA was a delusional low life piece of trash stalker.

scum·bag noun \ˈskəm-ˌbag also -ˌbāg\
: a dishonest, unkind, or unpleasant person

I agree, Travis is none of the above. Not a good noun used to describe Travis, Ms. Hogan.
 
scum·bag noun \ˈskəm-ˌbag also -ˌbāg\
: a dishonest, unkind, or unpleasant person

I agree, Travis is none of the above. Not a good noun used to describe Travis, Ms. Hogan.

When I was growing up, that word was associated with a used condom and not just an unpleasant person.
Not a nice word at all, in any event.
I'm tired of seeing it. :(
 
I think people are always hesitant to say anything but good about a victim. I don't think anybody on here would want a boyfriend or fiance who was doing what Travis was doing with JA. One of them should have walked away for good. I think TA wanted to have sex and then wanted JA to go away until the next time. He wanted a good Mormon wife, but couldn't behave that way with them, thus JA. She loved him and could not deal with the fact that she was not good enough for him. He was not being very nice in any sense of the word and was misleading lots of people. But JA could have put on her big girl panties and walked away. Her evil side had to get even though. I once knew somebody just like TA. It's a tragedy and never should have happened.
All moo

I agree with much of what you say, except imo JA has absolutely no capacity for love. For her, it's all about controlling and possessing, competing and, more than anything else, winning.

In the end, if she really loved Travis, she would have let him go, would not have committed this horrendous crime, would not have taken his life. She is a demented, depraved, sick, evil monster, and there's just no love that's going to come from a thing like that. jmo
 
It appears Travis did not know how to get rid of Jodi. It appears that Bobby did not know how to get rid of her. It appears Matt did not know how to get rid of her. The young man from Costa Rica certainly didn't want her around. And Darryl, whether he wanted her gone or not, was with her for 4 years but to our knowledge did not have a problem letting her go. Certainly did not fight to keep her around. So the problem was always Jodi. We do not know if Travis ever felt that they were dating exclusively. Jodi claims they had a lot of sex but if this is true why did Travis ask Dan Freeman and his sister to join them on a camping trip because he did not want to be alone with her. Obviously he did not trust Jodi. If he truly was really into all the fantasies Jodi claims then this would have been the perfect time to "tie her to a tree". People have fantasies but rarely do they act on them. I don't trust anything she did or set up with Travis after she returned to Yreka. I even think she deliberately trashed the BMW because she thought he might let her stay with him until she was able to get on her feet. JA manipulates. It's what she does. jmo

BBM IMO, Travis wanted Dan Freeman and his sister to act as his chaperon. This is not unusual in the Mormon church. I should know, I was raised Mormon and so was my husband. We were taught to avoid the appearance of evil. When my husband's oldest brother was dating his future wife, his mother insisted that a younger brother (there was five to choose from) go along on their dates as a chaperone. The brother that needed a chaperone had already served his mission and was an adult but he was still living at home.
 
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