SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

[AZlawyer]

How do you think she will do?
Any thoughts, AZlawyer?

I think she will do better than most people would do, and then at some point, probably during a sidebar, JM will start rapid-firing case law citations and she will freak out and agree to have her lawyers take over again. But this is just a guess, obviously.

 

[YESorNO]

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 22m
Convicted murderer #JodiArias will get extra perks in jail now that she is acting as her own attorney.

"... it's well known that inmates who act as their own attorneys get some special privileges that other inmates don't get.

Detention officers admit now that Jodi Arias is representing herself she will be treated differently.

"I think she is going to find out she is a little bit more limited than she hoped she was going to be," said Olsen.

Right now Arias is confined to her cell 23 hours a day. She is allowed a single half hour visit per week, and she can talk on the phone up to an hour per day.

But now because she is seen as preparing her case she can get up to six visits per week, five of those with court approved witnesses, and there is no set time limit on those visits. It's the same with phone calls, and she will have a list of court approved contacts and can stay on the phone with them as long as the phone is available.

"We will give her time to use the telephone, and do the things she needs to do to represent herself. We don't want to hinder that in any way. However, she will still have to stay within the guidelines and the jail rules," he said...."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/26229520/2014/08/08/will-jodi-arias-receive-extra-jail-perks

 

[YESorNO]

I think she will do better than most people would do, and then at some point, probably during a sidebar, JM will start rapid-firing case law citations and she will freak out and agree to have her lawyers take over again. But this is just a guess, obviously.

BBM That's what I think and just like the last time she tried this.

thanks for your thoughts.

 

[YESorNO]

One more question- I promise :floorlaugh:

Do you think it would be wise for JSS to let Nurmi go?
I think she should retain him, just in case.

 

[gcharlie]

Even most competent lawyers would be in over their heads in a death penalty trial. A layperson is bound to screw it up.

The difference is that a competent lawyer knows what (s)he is up against and recognizes the inherent landmines, whereas a layperson is oblivious to them.

In the event Arias is able to represent herself to the end of trial, which I highly doubt, if she were to "win" it would be through blind luck and not due to an understanding of the law, strategy and case history.

 

[Tuba]

Today is a pre-scheduled status hearing.

 

[gcharlie]

I think she will do better than most people would do, and then at some point, probably during a sidebar, JM will start rapid-firing case law citations and she will freak out and agree to have her lawyers take over again. But this is just a guess, obviously.

AZLawyer, I respectfully disagree with you.

In the last hearing, Nurmi again request to withdraw, citing significant differences in strategy. Her defense team has telegraphed that the State wants to put to death a mentally ill woman. Arias is still clinging to the DV survivor theme. I think this is where the rub is, and I don't see her handing over the reins voluntarily. If Nurmi has to take over, it will be due to Judge Stephens ordering it, IMO.

 

[neesaki]

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 22m
Convicted murderer #JodiArias will get extra perks in jail now that she is acting as her own attorney.

"... it's well known that inmates who act as their own attorneys get some special privileges that other inmates don't get.

Detention officers admit now that Jodi Arias is representing herself she will be treated differently.

"I think she is going to find out she is a little bit more limited than she hoped she was going to be," said Olsen.

Right now Arias is confined to her cell 23 hours a day. She is allowed a single half hour visit per week, and she can talk on the phone up to an hour per day.

But now because she is seen as preparing her case she can get up to six visits per week, five of those with court approved witnesses, and there is no set time limit on those visits. It's the same with phone calls, and she will have a list of court approved contacts and can stay on the phone with them as long as the phone is available.

"We will give her time to use the telephone, and do the things she needs to do to represent herself. We don't want to hinder that in any way. However, she will still have to stay within the guidelines and the jail rules," he said...."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/26229520/2014/08/08/will-jodi-arias-receive-extra-jail-perks

Maybe she thinks it will increase her chances of being able to slip out magazines with secret codes written inside. Personally, I can't imagine anyone willingly being a witness for this evil creature. :scared:

 

[neesaki]

Okay ... just caught the tail-end of Nancy Grace ...

:gaah: She was playing that same ole video of JA singing "Oh Holy Night" ...

:gaah: She really needs to stop playing that video of JA singing this beautiful song !

Very unfitting, IMO !

:moo:

What is it with NG always playing that horrible video, it's Unholy, IMO. I hardly ever watch her show anymore, this is one of the reasons.

 

[AZlawyer]

One more question- I promise :floorlaugh:

Do you think it would be wise for JSS to let Nurmi go?
I think she should retain him, just in case.

I would make him stay unless there is an actual ethical issue that prevents the representation.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 22m

Convicted murderer #JodiArias will get extra perks in jail now that she is acting as her own attorney.

"... it's well known that inmates who act as their own attorneys get some special privileges that other inmates don't get. ...

"We will give her time to use the telephone, and do the things she needs to do to represent herself. We don't want to hinder that in any way. However, she will still have to stay within the guidelines and the jail rules," he said...."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/26229520/2014/08/08/will-jodi-arias-receive-extra-jail-perks

Snipped and RBBM:


:gaah: I bet Jodi is prancing around the jail like she is the rincess: Queen :bee:

:gaah: She is a :dramaqueen:

:moo:

 

[neesaki]

:seeya: Hi nore !

I hope you get the computer fixed before trial starts ... you don't want to miss a minute of the Circus !

:seeya:

Circus, yes, with scary CMJA performing as herself. I keep thinking of the evil clown / spider / monster from Stephen King's "It". That's her all the way, imo. :scared:

 

[YESorNO]

"...On Friday, her lead attorney, Kirk Nurmi, asked the court to let him quit....

In his motion [2011] he noted that the earlier judge told him he had an ethical obligation to stay on the case. But now that he is merely advisory counsel, he wrote, "his ethical obligations to Ms. Arias are lessened to the point where these ethical obligations are of significantly lesser import."

He also pointed out that Arias has repeatedly tried to fire him from the case.

On Monday, Nurmi told Stephens that he and Arias did not agree on defense strategy for the upcoming retrial...

...Stephens told Arias that she could change her mind this time as well, but if she asks to have attorneys represent her again, it will be final."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...di-arias-attorney-motion-kirk-nurmi/13781429/

 

[YESorNO]

"FOX 10 talks to attorney Brent Kleinman about Jodi Arias' decision to represent herself in her sentencing retrial. (8/5/14): a video:



http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/clip/10...n-could-affect-her-case#.U-TYII-vVpI.facebook

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Good morning LambChop. I remember this differently and we need to know which it is. . I had remembered that when he tried to withdraw once before, many moons ago, it was brought up that Wilmott was his assist but that she was not DP qualified. And Nurmi handled the case and the closing for the dp sentencing stage. So I would think that if Wilmott were the DP attorney she would not have allowed Nurmi to give the closing argument over whether Jodi got life or death. Further, when I looked up that female attorney that JA requested last week, it said she is with the public defenders office and is DP qualified. I can't remember her name , something like trumpff, but I don't know now. So please correct me if I am wrong.

I just don't see JSS allowing anyone to withdraw right now. So late in the game. Either way, we are going to see Jodi file for some type of appeal, either because she says Nurmi was ineffective or because she will say the judge was biased.

She teaches trial lawyers. You'd think she'd done better.



Jennifer Willmott has spent her entire legal career defending people's
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University of Arizona in 1992. In 1995 she graduated from Arizona State
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attorney, Jennifer defended thousands of cases. At the Public Defender's
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cases ranging from misdemeanor DUI charges to homicides. Beginning
in 2001 Jennifer took on the added responsibility of supervising and
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She has successfully tried and won serious felony charges including
aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, sexual assault, kidnapping,
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In addition to her criminal defense practice, Jennifer has taught hundreds
of attorneys trial practice skills and how to be a competent and effective
criminal defense attorney. Many of the attorneys Jennifer has instructed
are now well respected criminal defense attorneys.

PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES

Member of Arizona Attorneys for Criminal Justice
Faculty member with MCPD Trial College 2002 to present
Faculty member with APDA Annual Seminar 2003 to present

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

and this was the "new" practice that Nurmi wanted out at the first.


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and here he is so humble........... does he live in this world? Does he think to continue to bind himself to Jodi that it will bring him new clients banging down his door? From what I saw he was a piss poor lawyer who lost a death penalty case. Nothing special just another face in the crowd.
he's not famous, he's infamous.



About | Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
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About L. Kirk Nurmi. Most people know who I am, based on the fact that I represented Jodi Arias at trial that received national and international attention.

 

[Spellbound]

AZlawyer, do you recall if Nurmi was death penalty qualified during the trial? I only remember hearing that Willmott was qualified. Other than a short statement on his website, I see nothing in the past that said he was, also.

Thanks, either way

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

BBM That was Bobby Juarez

This pic from when he was an extra on Lost:

Now look up over Bobby's right shoulder........do you see the lines of coke on the table?

 

[Tuba]

Yes, he was so qualified. Even prior to Willmott.

 

[geevee]

I don't believe there was a hearing today, it was the M.E. (Minute Entry) posted of the Hearing on 8/4:

8/8/2014 005 - ME: Hearing - Party (001)

The 8/8 is the "filing date", this is the minute entry that was filed today:

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082014/m6427527.pdf

Next hearing (status conference) still scheduled for 8/13 (next Wednesday) according to the docket and the High Profile List (type her last name in box):

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/MediaRelationsDepartment/highProfileList/index.asp