SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

[G&AMom]

Is anyone having an issue on the main Forums page with Java updater insisting you update? I can get here by searching for this thread from elsewhere in WS but cannot go anywhere via the main Forums page. When I click on a thread from there the Java popup comes up. When clicked OK on the Java popup my antivirus alerted of a virus.

I wasn't having that problem but I definitely had some weird issues with WS this morning. Mine seem to have gone away, though.

 

[Tuba]

Just don't make the mistake I made, krkrjx. Oracle told me to update my Java app. I had ignored what you are talking about hundreds & hundreds of times. I updated and even Norton has been unable to control the damage done by Java with its countless malicious sources. I've done system restore, uninstalled my mail server (because that's where the updater kept appearing for me) and all to no avail.

 

[krkrjx]

No issues for me today. How did your daughters surgery go? Been thinking of you.

It has not happened yet. We are getting frustrated waiting for it to be scheduled. This is another in a long series of procedures that started in 2006. She had a serious accident and has required reconstructive surgeries to face, one hip and both legs. We are now in the home stretch of it all, working on oral surgeries to get teeth placed. She has the implants but there are problems with some and that is what this next procedure is about. It is a relatively easy normally safe procedure but her disabilities put her at higher risk than most for any procedure involving anesthesia. But we both know life is about risk sometimes and not having the procedure is not really an option.

Thank you for asking.

And thanks to Hatfield, too, for the comforting post last night. I was really freaked out last night over many thing and I certainly did not mean to ignore anyone who responded to my whine.

 

[krkrjx]

Just don't make the mistake I made, krkrjx. Oracle told me to update my Java app. I had ignored what you are talking about hundreds & hundreds of times. I updated and even Norton has been unable to control the damage done by Java with its countless malicious sources. I've done system restore, uninstalled my mail server (because that's where the updater kept appearing for me) and all to no avail.

I read of your issues earlier with Java updating and uninstalled the program from my computer as I had been having navigation issues like you described. Comp worked considerably better with Java gone and I don't do much anymore that requires it. But today the Updater started bugging me--only on Websleuths Forums page--to update and does not give me the option to say no. I hit Cancel and it just comes up again as soon as I try to access the Forums page. So I wondered if WS required Java, but I am here on this thread without Java so I doubt it is needed. That popup is just trying to make me think it is needed. Was just wondering if anyone else is getting that, too.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I finally went t osleep at six thirty this morning. At that time when the camera was looking down on her Autumn you could see the shape of her sides had changed,you could see her hips more. I'm glad she waited till I woke up for a bit.

And now I see she's circling.

 

[Bernina]

Giraffe cam: Got a pooper scooper cleaning up the stall with bedding in it.

Added: Make that 2 pooper scoopers!

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

....got the giraffe back........


And the feed stopped......grrrr!

Bernina, since oyu have more birthing experience than us (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PAV3OfHo4n4) at what stage do you think she is?

Around four she was pushing and you could see ? her bag of water little bitty hooves? out about ten inches or so, had to run to the little girls room and when I get back it's gone. I didn't see any big splashes of water though. About ten to fifteen minutes she'd move one leg back , life her tail and push for about a minute than go back. At times before she'd push she's sway her hips back and forth before she'd move her leg back. Her shape also started to change. You could see her getting skinny around her hips. Her belly was still there, but he shaped was changed. So where are we?

 

[Tuba]

Expecting Martinez and Judge Stephens to call the killer's bluff at the hearing on August 20, when she attempts to line up "evidence" for her case.

 

[geevee]

There are a few ways to disable Java's updater, although this thread on the Windows 7 forum is from 2012 maybe it'll help those having troubles with it (the post by jhiker might be the best way).

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/228020-java-problem-major-pita-cannot-disable-updates.html

I installed Win 7 around the beginning of the year and opted not to install any Java, they just can't make it safe and it's mostly unnecessary anymore.

 

[Love Never Fails]

It has not happened yet. We are getting frustrated waiting for it to be scheduled. This is another in a long series of procedures that started in 2006. She had a serious accident and has required reconstructive surgeries to face, one hip and both legs. We are now in the home stretch of it all, working on oral surgeries to get teeth placed. She has the implants but there are problems with some and that is what this next procedure is about. It is a relatively easy normally safe procedure but her disabilities put her at higher risk than most for any procedure involving anesthesia. But we both know life is about risk sometimes and not having the procedure is not really an option.

Thank you for asking.

And thanks to Hatfield, too, for the comforting post last night. I was really freaked out last night over many thing and I certainly did not mean to ignore anyone who responded to my whine.

We are here for each other. Maybe we lives miles away, maybe we will never meet in person, but I am thankful WS has so many good people on these threads who care about one another. We laugh, we cry, we get mad. It's all good. I will sure keep your daughter and your trials in my prayers.

 

[Bernina]

Bernina, since oyu have more birthing experience than us (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PAV3OfHo4n4) at what stage do you think she is?

Around four she was pushing and you could see ? her bag of water little bitty hooves? out about ten inches or so, had to run to the little girls room and when I get back it's gone. I didn't see any big splashes of water though. About ten to fifteen minutes she'd move one leg back , life her tail and push for about a minute than go back. At times before she'd push she's sway her hips back and forth before she'd move her leg back. Her shape also started to change. You could see her getting skinny around her hips. Her belly was still there, but he shaped was changed. So where are we?

That Youtube video..........:floorlaugh:

I've just got experience with goats, horses, dogs, cats, and cattle as far as mammals.

As far as single births (not the whole litter business) the fetus is on it's back as it gets bigger, and as it gets VERY close to delivery, it turns over. (that MAY be what looked like "contractions" but it was just the baby getting in position) This can be just a few hours to several days before birth. The flanks of the mom "fall in", ie, a depression forms. The flanks are just below and forward of the hip. It's similar to when a human feels their baby "drop" into the cervix area.
The belly drops more noticeably, the vulva relaxes, as do the muscles on both sides and below the tail. You might see a distinct "V" shape at the bottom of the belly when looked at from the side: this is the baby's back hooves pressing downward, it's getting cramped in there! The "V" shape comes and goes.
Biting the sides and pacing, circling are all indicators of discomfort and getting annoyed that enough is enough, let's get this party started, kind of like when a person gets into the last 2 weeks of pregnancy and does silly stuff like go out and mow the lawn to kick in the contractions. (That's me, BOTH pregnancies)

The only way to absolutely confirm delivery within 48 hours is take a sample of the colostrum from the teats and test it. The kits are sold online.
But like any pregnancy, you can't predict WHEN it's going to happen, just the general time frame within a week or so, from the last heat cycle and gestation time.
She's close, but it COULD go on for another week. If that IS the water sac, there'd be vets there ASAP. Once the sac is apparent, the contractions and delivery should happen very quickly, other wise your dealing with a breach of some sort. The sac being exposed makes it susceptible to bacteria...which is a bad thing. (septicemia/peritonitis) It's probably just part of the vulva that has distended out from the pressure of the baby.
The best thing is for everyone to walk away and get a cup of coffee........seems like that route ALWAYS works with my horses! Finish your coffee, go back and there's the wet baby!:happydance:

 

[Love Never Fails]

Expecting Martinez and Judge Stephens to call the killer's bluff at the hearing on August 20, when she attempts to line up "evidence" for her case.

I sure hope so. That would give us a great weekend wouldn't it? I am still smiling at how quickly JSS shut down Nurmi's request and pretty much made JA realize she is onto her.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

That Youtube video..........:floorlaugh:

I've just got experience with goats, horses, dogs, cats, and cattle as far as mammals.

As far as single births (not the whole litter business) the fetus is on it's back as it gets bigger, and as it gets VERY close to delivery, it turns over. (that MAY be what looked like "contractions" but it was just the baby getting in position) This can be just a few hours to several days before birth. The flanks of the mom "fall in", ie, a depression forms. The flanks are just below and forward of the hip. It's similar to when a human feels their baby "drop" into the cervix area.
The belly drops more noticeably, the vulva relaxes, as do the muscles on both sides and below the tail. You might see a distinct "V" shape at the bottom of the belly when looked at from the side: this is the baby's back hooves pressing downward, it's getting cramped in there! The "V" shape comes and goes.
Biting the sides and pacing, circling are all indicators of discomfort and getting annoyed that enough is enough, let's get this party started, kind of like when a person gets into the last 2 weeks of pregnancy and does silly stuff like go out and mow the lawn to kick in the contractions. (That's me, BOTH pregnancies)

The only way to absolutely confirm delivery within 48 hours is take a sample of the colostrum from the teats and test it. The kits are sold online.
But like any pregnancy, you can't predict WHEN it's going to happen, just the general time frame within a week or so, from the last heat cycle and gestation time.
She's close, but it COULD go on for another week. If that IS the water sac, there'd be vets there ASAP. Once the sac is apparent, the contractions and delivery should happen very quickly, other wise your dealing with a breach of some sort. The sac being exposed makes it susceptible to bacteria...which is a bad thing. (septicemia/peritonitis) It's probably just part of the vulva that has distended out from the pressure of the baby.
The best thing is for everyone to walk away and get a cup of coffee........seems like that route ALWAYS works with my horses! Finish your coffee, go back and there's the wet baby!:happydance:

I think you can go back and see what I'm talking about. what ever it was she pushed it out and hung down against her rear. It was about an hour before her shape started to change. So you think the calf is engaged and will turn some time in here?


Walter get's interested a few times before and while she's straining. She went over to him after she'd gone back in and out of the little room several times, and rubbed her head on his neck and he'd nibble on her neck. It was so sweet to see that she's not all alone,

 

[YESorNO]

We've had a strange day. Several nights ago Anna told me that seen amy sister had found a man up under their carport up by the gate , when she'd drive in six times in the last week, and Anna called LE and they told her to come and make a report,

So this morning dh went to pick Anna up to drop off Eva (Anna's dog) at our house and she tells her daddy that is the man and pointed to a man walking up the street on their side , and when he saw my dh he crossed to the other side and walked on by. DH followed , stop and took his picture and the guy walked off, and dh pulled into the police parking lot (they live just around the corner) and the guy walked over and told dh that he couldn't take his picture and to stop.

So dh tells him nope he's in the public, and the guy says he'll make a complaint, and dh husband says right this way and walks to the door (which isn't open, and that is another story) and one officer came out and asked what's going on and dh tells him , and the man went into a routine of it's hot and he wanted to get out of the sun, and it should be no problem, DH told the officer that this was at night around the time Anna came home from work, (even sitting on her car the last time they saw him Wednesday night) and there is a park on the other side of the street and Anna wanted to file criminal trespass and what could be considered stalking, then a second office comes out ask what's going on and then says to the man "how's things going between you and your girlfriend?" , apparently his girlfriend has called 911 before, and asks if he still lives at and mentions a street nearby.

So he again tells the second officer (he'd never made it as websleuths) that he's been inside of the carport ( I told dh good he just admitted to being on the property, no having to prove it) only to get out of the sun, Anna tells the 2nd officer that it was dark all times, and she wasn't comfortable, so as this is going on the second office it typing in his thingy that they use to write a ticket and ask the man to look at him and takes his picture, then tells Anna that she needs to tell him that is he not welcome on or near her property, and she does, then Anna is asked to sign the paper and the second officer ask the man if he understands and to sign acknowledging that he'd been giving a criminal trespass warning, and he would be arrested if seen there again.

So Anna's moving home September fifth. She was a few months ago, but promised my sister she'd stay six more months, and it hit me harder than I thought it would. And I'm thankful to y'all for for the kind words that night.

:seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

Thanks, do you know if giraffes are more likely to give birth indoors or outside? Do the animal doctors help or leave her to do it on her own? I'm a newbie at this. lol

I found this YTube of a giraffe birth because I know I won't have enough bandwidth to watch Autumn give birth.
It's amazing how the baby giraffe just falls on the ground and still lives. No one helped this mother giraffe give birth, so I guess there
are no giraffe midwives.

(note: if you skeeve these kind of things, please don't watch it)

[video=youtube;1kZW8e79Bm0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZW8e79Bm0[/video]

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I found this YTube of a giraffe birth because I know I won't have enough bandwidth to watch Autumn give birth.
It's amazing how the baby giraffe just falls on the ground and still lives. No one helped this mother giraffe give birth, so I guess there
are no giraffe midwives.

(note: if you skeeve these kind of things, please don't watch it)

[video=youtube;1kZW8e79Bm0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZW8e79Bm0[/video]

In the Archive you can see Autumn giving birth to her daughter two years ago? Yep, just plops out on the hard concrete. The mother in me winced, and want to do something.

 

[Steely Dan]

Me too, where is she? The room is empty.

ETA: NM, saw her but she's gone outside now.

Could someone please link the giraffe cam?

Thanks Steely.
I am doing well. And I like how you stay positive by laughing. That's a great thing to do. So glad you are cancer free after ten years. Awesome! I have missed you...glad you are back.

I've always been around. I've been staying away from cases for awhile because it only upsets me much of the time.

Yes, they did mention my femoral artery - check to see if I had a blood clot there - but none found!! And my other doctor did mention it might be a lymph node swollen - but the other doctor scheduled all these tests for me - yes, good that there are negative findings!!



But.... this is a Sidebar thread - so we can talk about anything, SteelyDan!! :wave:

I have no problem with it being discussed here, it's just that the updates stopped in the other thread. :snooty:

 

[Spellbound]

Giraffe cam: if there are two, it will be the boys. If only one it probably is Autumn. Can switch between the paddock and barn
http://friendsgreenvillezoo.org/giraffecam/barn

Autumn in labor with her first, Kiko. Toward the end you can see the sac hanging
http://youtu.be/LZP6d4md5n4


Autumn gives birth to Kiko, long version:
http://youtu.be/ABG_qGkEjP4

giving birth, short version:
http://youtu.be/qFzbTFLwkZI

 

[Steely Dan]

Giraffe cam: if there are two, it will be the boys. If only one it probably is Autumn. Can switch between the paddock and barn
http://friendsgreenvillezoo.org/giraffecam/barn

Autumn in labor with her first, Kiko. Toward the end you can see the sac hanging
http://youtu.be/LZP6d4md5n4


Autumn gives birth to Kiko:
http://youtu.be/ABG_qGkEjP4

I see one big giraffe pacing and one medium sized giraffe? Who are they? What are the names? TIA

 

[Spellbound]

I see one big giraffe pacing and one medium sized giraffe? Who are they? What are the names? TIA

Walter is the Big Daddy to both of Autumn's babies. Kiko is their 2 year old son from the first union.