SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

[salberg7]

Oops sorry, I thought we have called her that many times before. Will do! Mildly derogatory, IMO. Point taken.

 

[Renee110]

I feel sorry for him right up to the moment that I remember how dramatically and deliberately he attempted to paint this sociopath as the victim and Travis Alexander as a pedophile then I realize Lady Karma is working exactly as she is supposed to.

Thank you! I was feeling a little bit like I must be heartless and non-empathic because I just don't feel anything but uncleanliness and loathing when it comes to both Nurmi and Willmot. I would not want to be in the same room breathing the same air as they. shiver.

 

[Renee110]

I'm wondering whether the killer plans to cite emotional frailty, although to me it is no mitigator. She has referred to it a couple of times in her complaints.

WHAT emotional frailty?? I'm seriously wondering. She is amazingly strong emotionally if you ask me. If I had been through that trial being caught out time and again by Juan and it was televised, I would not have been able to string 4 words together that made sense. I don't understand this claim of frailty.

 

[daisymae]

Daisy, when I see Autumn , I look for the daisy on her left hip -- and then I think of you! Does it look like a daisy to you, too?

I hadn't noticed but will surely look for it. LOL

:laughing::laughing:

Autumn and Walter have a toddler, Kiko, who will turn 2 in Oct., so I guess giraffes mate for life. How sweet is that!

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I think Autumn is having contractions.

 

[janx]

But think of how the courts would be freed up and so would our tax dollars if when we KNOW some , as you call them, is really guilty and they are just sentenced. I do NOT believe a person who slaughtered one of our friends, neighbors, family members, and admits it, should get any counsel at all. Except GO TO JAIL. This is who we are taking about when discussing JA. And no she shouldn't be allowed appeals. She is making a mockery out of our system. JMO.

I understand your sentiments but feel that we have to suffer fools and cretins like JA in order to make sure that those who are innocent are given fair representation.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Anyone read this article that rose posted? Interesting.

I was wondering if missy:jail: will have the same conditions in prison that this guy does (except, of course there won't be men yelling and such- like
in this prison). Would this be conditions only if she gets DP, I wonder, while she waits for death by injection?

I know I posted about your first post -

"...To whom, then, does the murderer owe his life? Obviously, to the heirs of the victim. If I murder a family man, for example, his widow and children then come to "own" me. They can put me to death, publicly, and charge admission for this event, or they can force me to do hard labor for the rest of my miserable life, the proceeds to go to them. It is a crime and a disgrace that such criminals now enjoy air conditioning, television, exercise rooms, etc. They owe a debt to (the heirs of) their victims, who are now, to add insult to injury, forced to pay again, through taxes, to maintain these miscreants in a relatively luxurious life, compared to what they richly deserve..."


and commented on this post of yours

"The following essay is by William Blake, who has been held in solitary confinement for nearly 26 years. Currently he is in administrative segregation at Elmira Correctional Facility, a maximum security facility located in south central New York State. In 1987, Blake, then 23 and in county court on a drug charge, murdered one deputy and wounded another in a failed escape attempt. He was sentenced to 77 years to life....
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'...Prisoners call it The Box. Prison authorities have euphemistically dubbed it the Special Housing Unit, or SHU (pronounced “shoe&#8221 for short. In society it is known as solitary confinement. It is 23-hour a day lockdown in a cell smaller than some closets I’ve seen, with one hour allotted to “recreation” consisting of placement in a concrete enclosed yard by oneself or, in some prisons, a cage made of steel bars. There is nothing in a SHU yard but air: no TV, no balls to bounce, no games to play, no other inmates, nothing. There is very little allowed in a SHU cell, also. Three sets of plain white underwear, one pair of green pants, one green short-sleeved button-up shirt, one green sweatshirt, ten books or magazines total, twenty pictures of the people you love, writing supplies, a bar of soap, toothbrush and toothpaste, one deodorant stick but no shampoo, and that’s about it. No clothes of your own, only prison-made. No food from commissary or packages, only three unappetizing meals a day handed to you through a narrow slot in your cell door. No phone calls, no TV, no luxury items at all. You get a set of cheap headphones to use, and you can pick between the two or three (depending on which prison you’re in) jacks in the cell wall to plug into. You can listen to a TV station in one jack, and use your imagination while trying to figure out what is going on when the music indicates drama but the dialogue doesn’t suffice to tell you anything. Or you can listen to some music, but you’re out of luck if you’re a rock-n-roll fan and find only rap is playing....

...I have lived for months where the first thing I became aware of upon waking in the morning is the malodorous funk of human feces, tinged with the acrid stench of days-old urine, where I eat my breakfast, lunch, and dinner with that same stink assaulting my senses, and where the last thought I had before falling into unconscious sleep was: “Damn, it smells like sh-t in here.”...

Had I known in 1987 that I would spend the next quarter-century in solitary confinement, I would have certainly killed myself. If I took a month to die and spent every minute of it in severe pain, it seems to me that on a balance that fate would still be far easier to endure than the last twenty-five years have been. If I try to imagine what kind of death, even a slow one, would be worse than twenty-five years in the box—and I have tried to imagine it—I can come up with nothing. Set me afire, pummel and bludgeon me, cut me to bits, stab me, shoot me, do what you will in the worst of ways, but none of it could come close to making me feel things as cumulatively horrifying as what I’ve experienced through my years in solitary. Dying couldn’t take but a short time if you or the State were to kill me; in SHU I have died a thousand internal deaths. The sum of my quarter-century’s worth of suffering has been that bad....

I have served a sentence worse than death."
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Yesterday after reading your first and then second post, I kept hearing " I Hung My Head" by Johnny Cash playing in my head. Maybe their debt to society would be better served if they did have to repay with their own sweat and blood. To have to take on the burden of working the rest of your life indebted to them because of something you did, would be easier than living in the box.



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[YESorNO]

I think Autumn is having contractions.

Ohhh- ohhh !!!! :scared:

I just checked and she's not in her pen! Maybe she's in the "delivery room"???

We're going to be giraffe aunts! :floorlaugh: :dance:

Baby giraffe could be born any day now:


http://www.wyff4.com/news/baby-giraffe-due-at-greenville-zoo-this-month/26859442#!bEe5ns

To view the giraffe cam:

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/southcarolina/greenville/?cam=giraffe_int

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Ohhh- ohhh !!!! :scared:

I just checked and she's not in her pen! Maybe she's in the "delivery room"???

We're going to be giraffe aunts! :floorlaugh: :dance:

Baby giraffe could be born any day now:


http://www.wyff4.com/news/baby-giraffe-due-at-greenville-zoo-this-month/26859442#!bEe5ns

To view the giraffe cam:

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/southcarolina/greenville/?cam=giraffe_int

She's eating now, but you can see her stop and raise her tail (no I can when she poops) and a small bulge under her tail then she relaxes.

 

[YESorNO]

She's eating now, but you can see her stop and raise her tail (no I can when she poops) and a small bulge under her tail then she relaxes.

I can't see - only her head now. :gaah:

 

[krkrjx]

Ugh, sometimes I get mad at the world for it being such a mess. Bad people are coddled and have all the rights; those who try to do the right thing often get the shaft. Today has been one of those days for me and I hope I can relax and calm down soon because I can't even imagine what my blood pressure is right now.

My daughter (adult) is supposed to have surgery and I have heard nothing about when it will be and the waiting and not knowing what's happening is making me anxious. And then when I tried to get my mind off that I started getting horrible thoughts like Arias being sentenced to life with chance of parole after 25 years and it hit me that if that were to happen she could be eligible in 18 years because she has already been in jail for seven years. Yuk...that happening would be almost as bad as Casey Anthony's slithering away without serving one single day for murdering her baby. Then she lies on her bankruptcy petition and no one cares. No bankruptcy officials are gonna do the right thing...it's too much work. They get paid the same either way so they choose to do nothing and let her slither away AGAIN.

All of it is pretty high up on the Yikes Meter. It makes me anxious. Angry. Frustrated.

I want this trial over and done with and that freak of nature JA put away forever. I want my daughter to get what she needs and come through it OK. I want to see the new baby giraffe.

I need something to smile about, for crying out loud.

 

[daisymae]

I can't see - only her head now. :gaah:

WOW Giraffes give birth while standing, and the baby is born hooves-first. A newborn calf, which can weigh between 120-150 pounds and stand 6-feet tall at birth, will usually take its first steps within an hour of its birth.

And humans need pain relievers for a mere 10 pound baby? LOL

 

[YESorNO]

Ugh, sometimes I get mad at the world for it being such a mess. Bad people are coddled and have all the rights; those who try to do the right thing often get the shaft. Today has been one of those days for me and I hope I can relax and calm down soon because I can't even imagine what my blood pressure is right now.

My daughter (adult) is supposed to have surgery and I have heard nothing about when it will be and the waiting and not knowing what's happening is making me anxious. And then when I tried to get my mind off that I started getting horrible thoughts like Arias being sentenced to life with chance of parole after 25 years and it hit me that if that were to happen she could be eligible in 18 years because she has already been in jail for seven years. Yuk...that happening would be almost as bad as Casey Anthony's slithering away without serving one single day for murdering her baby. Then she lies on her bankruptcy petition and no one cares. No bankruptcy officials are gonna do the right thing...it's too much work. They get paid the same either way so they choose to do nothing and let her slither away AGAIN.

All of it is pretty high up on the Yikes Meter. It makes me anxious. Angry. Frustrated.

I want this trial over and done with and that freak of nature JA put away forever. I want my daughter to get what she needs and come through it OK. I want to see the new baby giraffe.

I need something to smile about, for crying out loud.

:therethere:

 

[Hatfield]

Ugh, sometimes I get mad at the world for it being such a mess. Bad people are coddled and have all the rights; those who try to do the right thing often get the shaft. Today has been one of those days for me and I hope I can relax and calm down soon because I can't even imagine what my blood pressure is right now.

My daughter (adult) is supposed to have surgery and I have heard nothing about when it will be and the waiting and not knowing what's happening is making me anxious. And then when I tried to get my mind off that I started getting horrible thoughts like Arias being sentenced to life with chance of parole after 25 years and it hit me that if that were to happen she could be eligible in 18 years because she has already been in jail for seven years. Yuk...that happening would be almost as bad as Casey Anthony's slithering away without serving one single day for murdering her baby. Then she lies on her bankruptcy petition and no one cares. No bankruptcy officials are gonna do the right thing...it's too much work. They get paid the same either way so they choose to do nothing and let her slither away AGAIN.

All of it is pretty high up on the Yikes Meter. It makes me anxious. Angry. Frustrated.

I want this trial over and done with and that freak of nature JA put away forever. I want my daughter to get what she needs and come through it OK. I want to see the new baby giraffe.

I need something to smile about, for crying out loud.

Hang in there krkrjx. I and others here will be praying too that your daughter's surgery will come out ok. Most Doctors and their schedules dont do a great job of understanding what we as patients go through when we have to have surgery. They get so used to them but they sometimes forget it is traumatic for us since we dont go through them often.

We will pray all will be ok for her.

As far as Jodi and other stuff, we just have to remember that it is really out of our hands and all we can do is cheer Juan on and trust that he is doing the best job he can to keep her behind bars.

 

[krkrjx]

YESorNO, thank you!

 

[YESorNO]

What's happening with Autuum now?

You know I can't look at the cam long because of the band.

 

[YESorNO]

I have a big wasp nest outside of my front door (under the eves). My son was stung on his head. :scared:

I don't know why we didn't notice it before.

Looks just like this:

Gotta get some wasp poison spray!!!!

 

[krkrjx]

She's chewing her cud, LOL.

I think her belly bulge has changed shape from what it was yesterday. Not sure if that means anything...but it is noticeable.

 

[krkrjx]

I have a big wasp nest outside of my front door (under the eves). My son was stung on his head. :scared:

I don't know why we didn't notice it before.

Looks just like this:

Gotta get some wasp poison spray!!!!

Knock it down.

Then run.

 

[grammieto5]

My "thanks" button is working, I just used it on the Light a Candle for Caylee Marie thread, but there are so many great posts here, too many to thank individually so just one big thanks to all. I really hope Autumn has her baby soon, she looks so uncomfortable