SIDEBAR #27- Arias/Alexander forum

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  • #881
JSS sounds like a very, very liberal judge with no qualms of letting criminals back on the streets to commit crimes again. That is as scary as JA is. Wow.
 
  • #882
I lived in the Northern Virginia area when the DC Snipers were killing random people. I was working as a dialysis nurse & often filled my gas tank up early in the morning, like 5:30am. One of the murders took place at a Home Depot about 2 miles from my job. We were terrified. I remember taking precautions like getting in the car while the tank was filling up. Anyway, several years after their capture (John Mohammed & Lee Malvo) John Mohammed was executed in Virginia. As much as he terrorized the area & killed several innocent people, the night he was executed I felt sort of hollow & actually a little sad for the killer, sort of like an "is that all there is" moment, it felt unfulfilling, like two wrongs don't make a right. I started to think that life in prison is a "better" penalty, in that the criminal will have a long, miserable life behind bars. But then I also feel like the death penalty is warranted in some crimes. I think no matter how much of a narcissist she is, Jodi Arias will be miserable indeed with LWOP. She'll have 23 hrs a day to relive 6/4/08, & I don't for a minute even think she was in a fog. She deserves that misery. She knows, or is getting to be familiar, with the fact that after this phase of the trial she will sink into oblivion. People are sick of her antics now! In time she will just fade away, like Susan Smith or Betty Broderie, & the next day interest we will see of her she will be 20 yrs older, with sagging breast augmentation & furrows in her brow, salt & pepper hair. Her victim will be, as Juan said, forever young.

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Hi Salberg, just peeking in with my grandsons computer. LOL I think the same as you do at times. I think the reason some of us are adamant
about death for J. is we fear her ever getting out and doing it again. There is no question as to the fact she did this, she alone mutilated Travis.
She simply does not deserve to live. I have felt as you do with others and would rather see LWOP but not Jodi Arias, I cannot :loveyou:
 
  • #883
Websleuths are not the only ones struck by malware of late. 1,000 businesses in the U.S. were successfully targeted, including UPS.
 
  • #884
Websleuths are not the only ones struck by malware of late. 1,000 businesses in the U.S. were successfully targeted, including UPS.

eegads
 
  • #885
I have so many questions at this point. It seems that her lawyers were doing their jobs in trying to save her life, but JA seems more interested in some kind of do-over of the previous portions of the trial, or at the very least, establishing a basis for appeal. How on earth is somebody's going to the crime scene (which isn't even a crime scene at this point) going to help her with mitigation? To use one of my favorite expressions: She's barking up the wrong tree. And maybe that is what has frustrated Nurmi for so long--that she is so manipulative and impractical, there's no way he can help her or even try to help her.

I do know one thing though: She does not want to go to prison. People sometimes remark that prison is actually better than the county jail, that the food is better, there are things to do, etc.. That's laughable. There is a difference between a county jail and prison for a reason, and she at least knows that, and she does not want to go there and is trying to delay the inevitable at all costs, possibly the cost of her own life. With that kind of mindset, she could imagine herself walking out of that county jail to freedom. Stupid, stupid woman.
 
  • #886
IMO, Jodi is only proving how manipulative and lying she is with all these legal tactics. What she is showing is how right the witnesses and jury were in the first trial phase. The testimony was Jodi was a conniving schemer. After the trial, the jurors who did interviews said the same thing.
 
  • #887
Finished moving daughter into apartment for school. Time for supper

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#kitchensink
#PadrePizzaria
#100inCorpusChristiTXtoday
#couchesdon'tbelongon3rdfloor
 
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What really bothered me during the trial is when the witnesses (ALV and JA) would not answer Juan's questions. I felt like Juan would wake up JSS - 'Hey JUDGE - would you ppppplease make them answer my questions' and she'd act almost startled and tell them to answer the questions if they can, or tell Juan to ask it another way. It was so frustrating - I felt like JSS was in lala land half the time.
 
  • #890
It's hard for me to believe that it has really been sixteen years, yet Monday marks the anniversary of my brother's death. He was killed instantly in a single vehicle accident while driving cross country.

Last Sunday, my son and I went and had a nice lunch at his memorial bench. My son was only eight years old at the time my brother died. His uncle would be proud of him.

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  • #891
It's hard for me to believe that it has really been sixteen years, yet Monday marks the anniversary of my brother's death. He was killed instantly in a single vehicle accident while driving cross country.

Last Sunday, my son and I went and had a nice lunch at his memorial bench. My son was only eight years old at the time my brother died. His uncle would be proud of him.

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Gcharlie, I am so sorry. There is so much sadness in this world. We don't need more. My grandson, only 20 years old, was killed in a single car accident in March of this year. I still picture his beautiful smile. I don't know why it happened and my heart breaks. I miss him.
And then in May my precious sister who had raised me died of a stroke. I miss her so much, I can't think of her without crying. I am sorry i am a downer. Your post just reminded me that we have beautiful people come into our lives and I am never ready to let them go.
 
  • #892
How tragic, Curious! I am very sorry and sad for your loss. When you picture his smile he is probably connecting with you from Beyond.
 
  • #893
How tragic, Curious! I am very sorry and sad for your loss. When you picture his smile he is probably connecting with you from Beyond.

Oh Tuba, i have wondered about that. Maybe he just knows I am troubled? When someone is older, like my sister, you know it can happen and it hurts. But when it is a boy of just 20, you are just left to wonder why his time here was short. There was no alcohol or drugs involved. It could have been his cell phone or speeding. I have never gotten a clear answer on that. He was on the interstate and hit an embankment and his car flipped. He sure was a beautiful child with a sweet smile. He and his wife have a son who was only 11 months old at the time. At the funeral, there were tons of pictures of him with his baby. He loved that boy. I know my great grandson must wonder where his daddy went. Thanks Tuba, for your kindness.
 
  • #894
Here are some more of Judge Stephens' cases:

1. (The article includes a video of Judge Stephens speaking to the defendant during the sentencing phase. January 2014.)

“John Chester Stuart, 51, was convicted of second-degree murder and drive-by shooting in September for killing 49-year-old Tom Beasley.” Note: He represented himself during the first trial where the jury was unable to reach a verdict. He had an attorney for the second trial and was convicted. He claimed self-defense. He proclaimed his innocence even during sentencing. Judge Stephens sentenced him to 18 years in prison for murder and 14 years for the drive-by shooting charge. She ruled that that the sentences run concurrently. “Stuart was facing up to 43 years in prison.”

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/2...rage-case-man-sentenced-to-18-years-in-prison


2. Scottsdale teen rapist gets 21-year prison term (He faced 18 to 24 years. http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ottsdale-teen-rapist-sentenced-abrk/12675109/

3. Gavin Macfarlane shot two individuals and injured a couple more. “ In mid-June, Macfarlane was found guilty but insane. Judge Stephens sentenced him to natural life in the Arizona State Hospital and to be moved to prison if he's found to be no longer mentally ill.” There’s a catch though...“Unless, that is, the Psychiatric Security Review Board at the Arizona State Hospital someday finds that his mental illness is in remission and he probably won't hurt anyone else. If that happens, he'll be freed, says the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.” http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/07/gavin_macfarlane_sentenced_to.php

4. Michael Jay Cohn pled guilty to second-degree murder (strangled his wife to death). Judge Sherry Stephens sentenced him to 15 years in prison. “Cohn’s supporters asked Superior Court Judge Sherry Stephens for a more lenient sentence because a lengthy prison term could force Cohn to die in custody. Stephens said she did not consider age a mitigating factor.”http://www.azcentral.com/community/...an-sentenced-years-strangling-death-abrk.html

5. Dominic Chagolla was convicted of first-degree murder. He murdered his mother. Judge Sherry Stephens sentenced him to natural life in prison. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/06/dominic_chagolla_will_spend_hi.php

6. A former Paradise Valley High School teacher who pleaded guilty to having sex with a female student will spend nearly four years in prison and will have to register as a sex offender. (According to the article below this was a ‘strict’ sentence.)
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/04/jordan_doneskey_former_pv_teac.php
 
  • #895
So this Judge DOES know how to sentence a criminal to 'natural life in prison'. ;) I hope she does so in this case if the jury can't decide life or death!
 
  • #896
So this Judge DOES know how to sentence a criminal to 'natural life in prison'. ;) I hope she does so in this case if the jury can't decide life or death!

There was also a day before trial began there was another sentencing going on and JSS was In the middle of sentencing a man to LWOP. I know there are frustrations with this judge but I have every confidence she will give JA LWOP if it comes down to life.
 
  • #897
There was also a day before trial began there was another sentencing going on and JSS was In the middle of sentencing a man to LWOP. I know there are frustrations with this judge but I have every confidence she will give JA LWOP if it comes down to life.

I just hope that she doesn't try to appease both the Prosecution and Defense by giving Arias a sentence which would keep her in prison for a long time but not permanently...like 35-40 years. I don't think Arias should get out even after 70 years. LWOP or DP is the only appropriate sentence.
 
  • #898
I don't know, JSS seems all over the place with sentencing. Wish we had a ratio we could see, touch and taste! I'm just going to hope that with all of the publicity this case has, she will do the right thing. She is in a fish bowl with everyone watching and commenting and criticizing her every move. Are judges in AZ voted in?
 
  • #899
Nice view from First Baptist Church-Corpus Christi, Texas
#BibleStudy
#OceanDrive

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  • #900
It's hard for me to believe that it has really been sixteen years, yet Monday marks the anniversary of my brother's death. He was killed instantly in a single vehicle accident while driving cross country.

Last Sunday, my son and I went and had a nice lunch at his memorial bench. My son was only eight years old at the time my brother died. His uncle would be proud of him.

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That's a beautiful memorial gcharlie and one I think your brother is smiling on you for remembering him in that beautiful serene way (although I know how sad every one of those anniversary days are).
 
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