SIDEBAR #33 - Arias/Alexander forum

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  • #701
I'm a hiker from way back, and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone on a hiking trail dressed like that. What a scheming, shallow person she is.

I don't think Mormon women are to dress like that, do you? Aren't they to be modest and chaste? I can understand why other woman would dislike her. She's again, not the shy person this expert is wanting the jury to buy.

Hi Neesaki, how are things?
 
  • #702
BBM I don't understand why they thought Travis should marry someone after only a few months of dating. In the beginning of their relationship, I think Travis considered missy:jail:, but decided she wasn't the one for him and he told her to date /see others.

He led Deanna on???? I don't think so. Maybe the Hughes thought this? :thinking: Deanna could have left Travis whenever she wanted. They became more friends, after a time, than "lovers". After the 8 or so (?) years together, I think they had ample time to figure out where their relationship was going, and I think that there was a lot of love there, but not for marriage- just very good friends.

If he said he "loved" missy:jail: in a email/tweet/phone call (?), it was just a casual "luv ya" kind of thing that people say sometimes. Doesn't mean much. It's like a "hi, how you doing" thingy. Most people don't want to know how you are really doing- it's just something to say. :moo:

BBM Mormon youth are counseled to marry young so they do not fall into the temptation of premarital sex (The sin next to murder) and masturbation. Plus, the couple needs to provide mortal bodies for spirit children. The leaders of their church counsel them to not put off having children.
 
  • #703
Where do they dig up these ridiculous experts???? The killer and Travis only dated a few months!!! I just don't get it. So what if he was a little cocky and
dated multiple women at one time. I don't think that is against the law but premeditated murder is against the law. If he made the killer feel so bad - blah blah blah blah blah - why didn't she just leave him alone. They were not engaged, married.

Jodi thrived on Travis's personality and energy and friends. To her it would be like hanging out with the cool kids, but she wasn't so cool. You can hear Jodi acting just like Travis on the taped phone call. She tried to be cocky and cool, but it came out as desperate and gross.
 
  • #704
I'm a hiker from way back, and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone on a hiking trail dressed like that. What a scheming, shallow person she is.

But..........like, it's SEDONA, man, like, you gotta be down with the vibe, like be totally rad with the vortex!
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CMJA is SUCH a poser.......pffft!
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  • #705
It wasn't a dream. It really happened. Jodi made sure to bring attention to herself. I doubt if any of the other Mormon women would do that in public. It was all an act. It was Jodi letting everyone know she was Travis's woman. Everyone needs to keep this in focus. This was at the beginning of the relationship when things were hot and heavy, before Travis realized Jodi was just a booty call and he'd never marry her.

CMJA was "marking her territory".......
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I don't think Mormon women are to dress like that, do you? Aren't they to be modest and chaste? I can understand why other woman would dislike her. She's again, not the shy person this expert is wanting the jury to buy.

Hi Neesaki, how are things?

LDS women and girls (men and boys) are not supposed to wear anything that would expose their "garments" ie "Holy Underwear". You get these when you receive your "Temple Recommend" when you turn 18. Children under 18 are just supposed to follow the lead because that's the way it is.
The last I knew, garments had become a 2 piece ensemble, the top covering like a larger neck t-shirt, and the bottom cut to a few inches above the knee. The original was 1 piece, neck to ankles and wrists. All had darts that were "special" places, and they are supposed to protect you from evil influences......aurgh.........sorry any LDS peeps, but it makes my skin crawl. PTSD and all that crap.

CMJA was NOT wearing what the LDS church would approve of. Nor the bikini in the other pics, or backless whatevers. CMJA didn't have the LDS MODESTY meter. And if a gal is gonna pay a few hundred $'s on 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and a butt, she's not going to let anyone tell her she can't show them off.........
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  • #708
Hi everyone! :wave: Just caught with the Tweets - :gthanks:

Well that test said I am 54 - I liked being 54!! I am 67...

We had a very nice rain yesterday - and MORE coming Monday and Tuesday!! :happydance:

Her little sister is the one that got the "looks". I think she's quite pretty.
CMJA got smacked with the ugly stick.....JMO.

no, no... it was the wooden spoon!! LOL!
 

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  • #709
Well, the garments are certainly not secret now. The Mormon church recently released a video showing/explaining them and the temple outfit. I couldn't believe it. Nobody was ever supposed to see them. I wonder if Mitt Romney is going to run for President again. With this video and the essays that are coming out, I think HQ is trying to take the mystery out of Mormonism so they won't come across as so secretive and making it easier for Romney. I hope I did not just break the no politics rule. IMO

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-updates-temple-garment-video

From what I understand from one of my bros (left the LDS about 4 years ago), the Church is going for "transparency", but when Mitt was seeking funds for his campaign, his Alma Mater at BYU refused to contribute by way of the LDS leadership. There was also the commercial campaign "I am a Mormon" that was used as a PR move, all on the heals of the discovery that the Church spent millions to defeat the gay marriage vote in California.

With the internet, nothing is really a secret anymore......and many organizations have had to change to keep their followers.

Yep, major "no no" letting ANYONE (cept your spouse and temple workers) see your garments, not even hanging on the clothesline. Back in the day, no one would think of taking garments to the laundry mat......they were SACRED.
 
  • #710
BBM Mormon youth are counseled to marry young so they do not fall into the temptation of premarital sex (The sin next to murder) and masturbation. Plus, the couple needs to provide mortal bodies for spirit children. The leaders of their church counsel them to not put off having children.

BBM Oh. That's too bad- doesn't let the couple really get to know each other because they haven't spent enough time together to see if they are really a "good fit", IMO.

I know if my son wanted to marry someone he only knew for 4-5 months, I wouldn't be too happy.

The Catholic religion does have counseling for couples contemplating marriage.

I think that is a good idea if the couple have not known each other too long.

It would be horrible, IMO, to rush into a marriage just to have sex and just to have children. There's so much more

to marriage than sex and children. The couple's relationship is important, too, IMO.

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What does "spirit children" mean?
 
  • #711
But..........like, it's SEDONA, man, like, you gotta be down with the vibe, like be totally rad with the vortex!
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CMJA is SUCH a poser.......pffft!
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BBM I see Pfttting is getting catchy. :winkkiss:

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  • #713
But..........like, it's SEDONA, man, like, you gotta be down with the vibe, like be totally rad with the vortex!
roll-eye-smiley.gif




CMJA is SUCH a poser.......pffft!
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loser-smiley.gif


Bernina, I would love to meet you someday. I understand the Sedona "New Age" culture, etc. :floorlaugh: BUT: I don't think that JA understood that culture when she visited there. She probably had no idea...!
 
  • #714
Hi everyone! :wave: Just caught with the Tweets - :gthanks:

Well that test said I am 54 - I liked being 54!! I am 67...

We had a very nice rain yesterday - and MORE coming Monday and Tuesday!! :happydance:



no, no... it was the wooden spoon!! LOL!

It snowed last night and we received about 3" of snow- which sort of melted today, but we had more snow today and about 2".

And it's 22 degrees tonight (32 during the day). :scared:

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  • #715
From what I understand from one of my bros (left the LDS about 4 years ago), the Church is going for "transparency", but when Mitt was seeking funds for his campaign, his Alma Mater at BYU refused to contribute by way of the LDS leadership. There was also the commercial campaign "I am a Mormon" that was used as a PR move, all on the heals of the discovery that the Church spent millions to defeat the gay marriage vote in California.

With the internet, nothing is really a secret anymore......and many organizations have had to change to keep their followers.

Yep, major "no no" letting ANYONE (cept your spouse and temple workers) see your garments, not even hanging on the clothesline. Back in the day, no one would think of taking garments to the laundry mat......they were SACRED.

The Mormons have entered politics, for sure, and I don't think that should be held against them (though I don't like what I perceive to be a cult). BUT--the Udalls are a Western family who have roots in the LDS church and who have taken stewardship seriously--in terms of the earth and the land. Their church has led to an environmental legacy in the West that has lasted for generations.
 
  • #716
Mohawk

I saw a young teenage kid on the subway today.
He had a Mohawk hairstyle dyed yellow, green, and red.
He caught me staring at him and in a nasty voice asked, "What the f* are you looking at?"
I replied, "Sorry, but when I was about your age I had sex with a parrot. I thought maybe you were my son."
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Three Phases

A family is at the dinner table. The son asks the father, “Dad, how many kinds of 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 are there?”
The father, surprised, answers, “Well, son, a woman goes through three phases.
In her 20s, a woman’s breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they are like pears, still nice, hanging a bit.
After 50, they are like onions.”
“Onions?” the son asks. “Yes. You see them and they make you cry.”
This infuriated his wife and daughter.
The daughter asks, “Mom, how many different kinds of willies are there?”
The mother smiles and says, “Well, dear, a man goes through three phases also.
In his 20s, his willy is like an oak tree, mighty and hard.
In his 30s and 40s, it’s like a birch, flexible but reliable.
After his 50s, it’s like a Christmas tree.”
“A Christmas tree?” the daughter asks.
“Yes, dead from the root up and the balls are just for decoration.”
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Victoria's Secret

An old man goes into Victoria's Secret and tells the sales-person behind the counter he needs a present for his wife.
"See," explains the man, "It is my fiftieth wedding anniversary and I would like to get something pretty to surprise the little lady, if you know what I mean."
When he gets home, his wife asks with a scowl on her face, "Where have you been?"
"Surprise," says the old man and hands her a sexy tiny teddy.
The wife rips it from his hand and takes it to the bathroom to try it on.
She struggles to make it fit, but it is two sizes too small.
She take a long time in the bathroom and hopes her husband will lose interest and fall asleep because it is getting late into the evening.
Finally she emerges from the bathroom with all the lights out. She is completely nude and pretends to model it in front of him.
Her husband, still sitting up, squinting to try and see finally says, "For as much money I spent on it, they could of at least ironed out the wrinkles."
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Books

A chicken walks into a library, goes up to a librarian and says, "Book book book."
The librarian decides that the chicken wants a book so he gives the chicken a book and the chicken walks away.
About ten minutes later the chicken comes back with the book, looking a bit agitated, saying, "Book book book."
The librarian decides the chicken wants another book so he takes the old book back and gives the chicken another book. The chicken walks out the door.
Ten minutes later the chicken comes back again, very agitated, saying, "Book book book!" so quickly it almost sounds like one word.
The chicken puts the book on the librarians desk and looks up - waiting for another book.
This time the librarian gives the chicken another book and decides that something weird is happening.
He follows the chicken out the door and into the park, all the way to the pond.
In the pond is a frog sitting on a lily pad.
The chicken gives the book to the the frog, who then says, "Reddit, reddit."
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Talking Frog

A 92 year old man is walking through a park and sees a talking frog.
He picks up the frog and the frogs says, “If you kiss me, I will turn into a beautiful princess and be yours for a week.”
The old man puts the frog in his pocket.
The frog screams, “Hey if you kiss me, I will turn into a beautiful princess and make love to you for a whole month.”
The old man looks at the frog and says, “At my age I’d rather have a talking frog.”
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An elderly couple are in church.
The wife leans over and whispers to her husband, "I just let out a long, silent fart. What should I do?"
The husband replies, "First off, replace the batteries in your hearing aid!"
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Panties

A mother went to pick up her daughter from elementary school and found her doing handstands against the wall.
When they got into the car, the mother said, "Darling, I wish you wouldn't do that because the boys can see your panties."
"Okay, mommy," the little girl replied.
The next day, the mother noticed her little girls hands looked dirty, so she asked, "You haven't been doing handstands again and letting those boys see your panties, have you?"
"Oh no, mummy," the daughter replied. "Honestly! I took them off first."
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College

A hillbilly family's only son saves up money to go to college.
After about three years, he comes back home.
They are sitting around the dinner table, when the dad says, ''Well son, you done gone to college, so you must be perty smart. Why don't you speak some math fer' us?''
''Ok, Pa.'' The son then says, ''Pi R squared.''
After a moment, the dad says, ''Why son, they ain't teached ya nothin'! Pie are round, cornbread are square.''
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The 3 Bears

It’s a sunny morning in the Big Forest and the Bear family is just waking up.
Baby Bear goes downstairs and sits in his small chair at the table. He looks into his small bowl. It is empty! "Who's been eating my porridge?" he squeaks.
Father Bear arrives at the table and sits in his big chair. He looks into his big bowl. It is also empty! "Who's been eating my porridge?" he roars.
Mother Bear sticks her head out the kitchen door and yells, "For Pete's sake, how many times do we have to go through this?
It was Mother Bear who go up first. It was Mother Bear who woke everybody else in the house up.
It was Mother Bear who unloaded the dishwasher from last night and put everything away.
It was Mother Bear who went out into the cold early morning air to fetch the newspaper.
It was Mother Bear who set the table.
It was Mother Bear who put the cat out, cleaned the litter box and filled the cat's water and food dish.
And now that you've decided to come down stairs and grace me with your presence, listen good because I'm only going to say this one more time: I haven't made the porridge yet!"
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
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BATHTUB ANXIETIES

A little boy and a little girl are in the bathtub together.
The little girl looks down at the boy and asks, "Can I touch it?"
He answers, "No way -- you already broke yours off!"
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And a cutie:

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  • #717
Please everyone no discussion of the practices of the Mormons. The garments that they wear are part of their religion.

Trust me, on a true crime site like this, not one nothing good comes out of trying to discuss religion or the ways of a religion unless it is all directly a part of the case.

Since Jodie has already been found guilty there is no need to bring in the LDS religion.

Thank you,
Tricia
 
  • #718
I'm 62 according to that quiz. :waitasec: This is what I get for loving Mozart and cassettes. :thinking:

I love it :floorlaugh:
 
  • #719
BBM I don't understand why they thought Travis should marry someone after only a few months of dating. In the beginning of their relationship, I think Travis considered missy:jail:, but decided she wasn't the one for him and he told her to date /see others.

He led Deanna on???? I don't think so. Maybe the Hughes thought this? :thinking: Deanna could have left Travis whenever she wanted. They became more friends, after a time, than "lovers". After the 8 or so (?) years together, I think they had ample time to figure out where their relationship was going, and I think that there was a lot of love there, but not for marriage- just very good friends.

If he said he "loved" missy:jail: in a email/tweet/phone call (?), it was just a casual "luv ya" kind of thing that people say sometimes. Doesn't mean much. It's like a "hi, how you doing" thingy. Most people don't want to know how you are really doing- it's just something to say. :moo:

Agree, YorN, plus, I think Travis pretty much loved everyone. He had a good heart, and was just that kind of guy.
 
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