SIDEBAR #33 - Arias/Alexander forum

[cubbeegirl]

Interesting .....http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/11/04/jodi-arias-courtroom-observations-death-penalty-retrial

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents

Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party

11/3/2014 CAO - Court Of Appeals Order - Party (001) 11/4/2014
NOTE: UNSEAL THEN SEAL RECORD :scared:

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

 

[YESorNO]

Legally Speaking: Jodi Arias trial could spill over into 2015

"...At the end of the day, we are where we were Monday. The Court of Appeals told Stephens she couldn't seal the courtroom to the media and the public. The attorneys disagree as to what that means and what can and should be done now...."

http://ktar.com/305/1780356/Legally-Speaking-Jodi-Arias-trial-could-spill-over-into-2015
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[Dmacky]

Brought over YESorNO's post # 1009



News Articles and things



Another WTF? Day In Jodi Arias Sentencing Trial

"...Nurmi says he is unable to move forward until he appeals the decision. To whom will he be appealing the appellate court decision, the Supreme Court of Arizona? ..."

http://tamaratattles.com/2014/11/04/...tencing-trial/
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Jodi Arias’ Parents Beg For Donations To Help Her Fight ‘Wrongful Conviction’: ‘We Love Our Daughter’

"...A source told The National ENQUIRER last month that Arias had raised about $30,000 from her fans, but her goal is to collect $250,000 to use as a retainer for a lawyer to handle her appeals...."

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...medium=twitter
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This article is biased, IMO, but interesting never-the-less:

The Truth About Life Without Parole: Condemned to Die in Prison

"The facts prove that life in prison without the possibility of parole (LWOP) is swift, severe, and certain punishment. The reality is that people sentenced to LWOP have been condemned to die in prison and that’s what happens: They die in prison of natural causes, just like the majority of people sentenced to death...."

https://www.aclunc.org/article/truth...ned-die-prison
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Beth Karas in Phoenix on Jodi Arias Re-trial court battle! (with JVM)

can't get the bottom to copy!!!!. It was the best part.

 

[YESorNO]

I have so many emotions watching that.

YesorNo post the essay by William Blake. It's about his life in solitary for thirty years.

BBM

Voices from Solitary: A Sentence Worse Than Death

http://solitarywatch.com/2013/03/11/voices-from-solitary-a-sentence-worse-than-death/

 

[YESorNO]

Something wrong? I get an "error" when I clicked on the link.

Don't know why that happened- sorry.

https://www.aclunc.org/article/truth-about-life-without-parole-condemned-die-prison

 

[cubbeegirl]

BBM

Voices from Solitary: A Sentence Worse Than Death

http://solitarywatch.com/2013/03/11/voices-from-solitary-a-sentence-worse-than-death/

I would be ok with this for Jodi... I am, however less and less certain that Judge Sherry will give her LWOP...that scares me...

 

[YESorNO]

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All right!! who ate all my chocolates???!!! :tantrum:

OK- who did it? :thinking: :websleuther:

You just look away for a second...... Sheesh. :sheesh:

:floorlaugh:

:hilarious:

 

[YESorNO]

Brought over YESorNO's post # 1009



News Articles and things



Another WTF? Day In Jodi Arias Sentencing Trial

"...Nurmi says he is unable to move forward until he appeals the decision. To whom will he be appealing the appellate court decision, the Supreme Court of Arizona? ..."

http://tamaratattles.com/2014/11/04/...tencing-trial/
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Jodi Arias’ Parents Beg For Donations To Help Her Fight ‘Wrongful Conviction’: ‘We Love Our Daughter’

"...A source told The National ENQUIRER last month that Arias had raised about $30,000 from her fans, but her goal is to collect $250,000 to use as a retainer for a lawyer to handle her appeals...."

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...medium=twitter
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This article is biased, IMO, but interesting never-the-less:

The Truth About Life Without Parole: Condemned to Die in Prison

"The facts prove that life in prison without the possibility of parole (LWOP) is swift, severe, and certain punishment. The reality is that people sentenced to LWOP have been condemned to die in prison and that’s what happens: They die in prison of natural causes, just like the majority of people sentenced to death...."

https://www.aclunc.org/article/truth...ned-die-prison
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Beth Karas in Phoenix on Jodi Arias Re-trial court battle! (with JVM)

can't get the bottom to copy!!!!. It was the best part.

Con't:

Beth Karas in Phoenix on Jodi Arias Re-trial court battle! (with JVM):

[video=youtube;YzGUwakXlBU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzGUwakXlBU[/video]


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Found these on Twitter: (unknown origin)

 

[YESorNO]

Good, now show me how to be able to post more than one video at a time.

Can't do it- new program won't let us post more than one video that will show.

 

[YESorNO]

It sounded like her voice broke one time.

Matt McCartney,Dr. Cheryl Carp, and ? I really don't see ALV coming back and Numi being able to rehabilitate her without Juan impeaching her all over again. Richard Samuels , now how could the defense use him? Nope can't see them using him again, since Juan showed that he had no integrity or ethics after he admitted to falsifying Jodi's text results.


Dr. Robert "I was doing so good" Gefner is an expert on domestic violence too, and they could recall him? But I think they now want someone to tell jury just how messed up Jodi is. They're going to embrace Janeen DeMarte diagnosis, and throw in a few others. How about Sue Stodola?

Susan Stodola :thinking: She's the former mitigation specialist

"...Capital Mitigation Specialist

Susan Stodola Mitigation Services

August 2013 – Present (1 year 4 months)
All facets of mitigation work: family histories, life stories, hiring of mitigation experts and preparation for testimony..."

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/susan-stodola/35/659/40

 

[hindsight2020]

Way Back Wednesday

 

[YESorNO]

Breaking down Nurmi's plea: with just relevant parts and fluff deleted, IMO
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"...when the rights of …victims rights conflict with those of the defendant … the defendant’s rights are superior...

...we advocated against this stay. We would prefer to go forward in the manner that we were in which we were proceeding before this stay was granted, but that has not happened here. So, ultimately those rights that heighten sense of due process that Miss Arias is entitled to is of much more significance. Rule 19 is a *non sequitur. It doesn’t apply in this situation. The proceedings will go as they go, and in… conjunction with Rule 19, but at the same time, they have to be done in a way that’s cognizant of the rights due Miss Arias, and that’s where the problem is, and this court... said that it would be problematic for the defense to go forward. I see nothing …that has been put before the court to reconsider that ruling -- that it’s problematic. This is different than the Court of Appeals staying it. ***The court is determined based on the evidence presented to it that it is problematic for the defense to proceed forward. ...

...that problematic nature is of constitutional significance which would make any death sentence imposed... be one that could never be imposed upon Miss Arias.

...She has the right to litigate this issue. It’s not a matter of holding these proceedings hostage. We want to go forward. ** If the court wanted to go forward tomorrow under the procedure we were going forward with we would do it gladly, but that’s not the situation we’re under.

Miss Arias should not be held to suffer because of what the media has done. If the media causes a mistrial, if we have a mistrial by media, so be it. The state never opposed any of the media motions. They wanted them in here so they could exploit these proceedings just as much as the media. So, Your Honor, we believe that we have the right to go forward and litigate the issue on its merits, and when it’s done, it’s done and then we move forward.
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(had to look this term up):

*non sequitur

a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non sequitur
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**sounds like a hostage situation to me
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***JSS did say that calling witnesses out of order is problematic : (so now it's not? what changed for her ???)

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 37s37 seconds ago
She's (JSS) agreeing calling witnesses out of order is too problematic. #JodiArias

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I don't understand why Nurmi thinks the media will cause a mistrial. The media was forced to appeal because he wanted to stop the trial for the "secret" witness.

He will cause the mistrial if he gets to hold up this trial because he needs to have his witnesses go in some kind of order.

If the jury is available 'til 12/18, does that mean that they are not obligated to stay as jurors until the end of January (good way to cause another mistrial because you may lose
jurors who cannot stay on 'til January if the jurors drop to below 12 :scared.
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(Nurmi needs to stop adding all the fluff to his pleadings, IMO. It's hard to understand what he has to say and what's important to his case.)

Just :moo:

(thanks go out to TXJan1971 for posting the transcript - Tuesday, November 4 Hearing [post 45])

 

[YESorNO]

One more news article that I found in my email inbox:

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Jodi Arias - Recap "Mistrial by media"

"...Attorney Kirk Nurmi argued to the judge today that it was not possible for him to take witnesses out of order and tempers flared in the courtroom..."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2014/11...m_campaign=Feed:+CourtChatter+(Court+Chatter)

 

[Renee110]

I want to know also. Thanks.

Wasn't KCL in charge of that? I may be wrong. I was wrong once in 1984.

 

[Bernina]

Going to be AWOL for the most part the next 6 days. Shadoe's going to Designer Con in Pasadena this morning so I get to "house sit", more like "cat wrangling"! Will be here a few hours each day to work with Zuri, and do noon and evening feedings.
Will check in to see what "progress" is going on with the trial.............like, right!

But, I think I've solved the mystery of the repeated stall tactics:

Incarcerated Idol: The return of CMJA singing another Christmas carol. Gotta be there for the competition and get that trophy for another mitigating factor!!!!!

And Christmas visitation in Perryville is a PITA, specially in Lumley. The evaluation period when she gets there might preclude any visits during that time as well.

We shall see..........

 

[Bernina]

Wasn't KCL in charge of that? I may be wrong. I was wrong once in 1984.

Nope. I think you can find the donation site on one of the FB groups.

 

[Dmacky]

It makes me sick-ified every time I hear KN says there is going to be a mistrial by media.
WHO involved the media in the first place after her arrest? Who put THEMSELF in the media every single time she had a chance?
Here's a couple of hints for ya KN !

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I know I'm innocent, Travis knows I'm innocent and God knows I'm innocent. No jury will EVER CONVICT ME...and you can mark my word on that

Inside Edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaSD8tfbYlU
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*It surprised me how she was so excited to be interviewed.
*I got the feeling that she really enjoyed being on camera.
*She was even giving the camera crew INSTRUCTIONS

48 Hours web extra: First Impressions of Jodi Arias
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TcrBwB71Q
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I always have my camera...
48 hours mystery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsaBsAMfNgg

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JA gives 3 interviews after verdict
http://ktar.com/22/1636198/Jodi-Aria...ading-for-life

JA brought the media in this trial. NOW she DEMANDS no media
and secret witnesses ??

 

[Hatfield]

Is this true? I am disappointed.

Oh no. Give it to Harry please !!!

The thought of Prince Charles getting to become King is nauseating.

ETA: I hadnt read far enough on previous page. There is a followup post where someone kindly explains the progression of who gets to be king.

 

[Rhozwen]

Wonder why she is wearing the wrist brace on her hand???

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 11m11 minutes ago
#JodiArias wrist brace. MCSO says her medical information protected. No fight though. Arias is never in contact with other inmates.

ETA: maybe she punched a wall? :thinking: