SIDEBAR #34 - Arias/Alexander forum

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Juan Martinez's Tie ‏@juanstie 3h3 hours ago

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:floorlaugh:

 

[Deleted member 122533]

ILikeToBendPages. Reading this took me on a detour. From Crystal Gayle to Ella Fitzgerald then (appropriate for CMJA) Bang Bang by Nancy Sinatra. So enjoyable. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 122533]

I'm also fascinated by the debate over the psychology. I agree that Arias is a psychopath. There are many clues to this. She is goal-orientated. She mentioned goals a lot in trial. She doesn't give a damn what people think of her and fakes cncerned about status purely to to further a goal. She it utterly remorseless and ghoulish. Psycopathy live, in court. Disturbing to watch.

 

[Meemaw12]

My song for tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg I can see clearly now Johnny Nash

Mr M will bring this case back and get it on track of what it is supposed to be about.

 

[ParrotGal]

I'm very interested in why people murder and have done some research (what else is new :facepalm on the psyche of these "unusual people".

I don't think missy:jail: is a sociopath, but I think she is a psychopath (although many psychologists state they are the same animal). Psychopaths are more dangerous, IMO,
because it's a genetic flaw (nature) and there is no counseling, meds, etc. to "fix" this antisocial personality disorder, as a sociopath has a "nurture" theme to it. (I don't think that there is any validity that missy:jail: was abused by her parents).

There is no redemption for missy:jail:, IMO, as psychopathy is a part of her make-up, her personality (almost makes me feel sorry for her for a second :scared: as she does not know what she is- not human in the human sense :scared.

She cannot feel remorse because she doesn't know what remorse entails. She is emotionally "stunted", IMO. I've been looking for remorse :boohoo: in murderers and it's almost impossible to find, IMO.
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Antisocial Personality Disorder - No remorse

"...When a person is diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder it means that a professional has determined that they have an ongoing pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others..."

http://thenarcissismofviolence.blogspot.com/2014/01/antisocial-personality-disorder-no.html

More articles (if you are interested) :

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

"Narcissistic Personality Disorder is: A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: ..."

http://thenarcissismofviolence.blogspot.com/2014/01/narcissistic-personality-disorder.html

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Profiling Jodi Arias: Psychopath or Sociopath?

"Why do we care about the subtle distinction between Sociopath Behavior and Psychopathy? Because, the latter, exhibits signs of planning and manipulation which leads to believe that murderous actions are premeditated. Therefore, Arias shows signs of Psychopathy as she felt humiliated by Travis rejection and by him moving on. She then planned to murder Travis Alexander and went to greater length to justify her actions."

http://thewindblower.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/profiling-jodi-arias-psychopath-or-sociopath/
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Dr. Scott Born revisited:

How to Tell a Sociopath from a Psychopath

Understanding important distinctions between criminal sociopaths and psychopaths

"...Psychopathy is the most dangerous of all antisocial personality disorders because of the way psychopaths dissociate emotionally from their actions, regardless of how terible they may be..."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath
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missy:jail: should never be let out in the general population again because she has no boundaries and that is very dangerous. People like missy:jail: are like chameleons, disguising themselves as

ordinary people, but are deadly predators. It's hard to distinguish them. Poor Travis met one of them and didn't see what kind of danger he was in until it was too late and even then, he didn't

know how dangerous to him she really was. :anguish:

Very insightful post. I agree. She is about as sick as they come.

 

[Nore]

OR They have a case of head lice!

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Too Funny!! :hilarious: :lol: :laughcry: :Banane48

 

[Susza]

I know it's the internet and all and anonymity and safety and all of that BUT I'm just putting it out there that I'm pretty much 1h000% sure there are posters on here who would love to send you books (and other little care package stuff we can share ) during you convalescence Spycraft if you'd like to share an address privately or something. If not, I completely understand but I'm just putting it out there anyway. We could be a little collective amazon.com but without the paying part. I know I probably have at least 10 books or more that would be happy to find new homes and other little goodies I'd be happy to send your way. You could let me know privately as well if you have an address you'd be comfortable sharing.

PS I say this because during the Arias trial I did share my address wtih many posters who sent lots of things for the Alexanders which I hand carried to them in court (and many nice things for me too). So I'm more liberal than most with the address thing but it proved to be totally safe and ok for me.

BBM - for some reason I wasn t able to bold your entire post:
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:

 

[Susza]

Spycraft, I start with sending you loads and loads of energy to handle with such a difficult situation. I' m so sorry you're feeling alone. What can we do to make you know that YOU AREN'T?
I'd love to send you books, too. But I only have german and french books. Otherwise, let me know your wishes; I'll go through amazon.com (as I m living in Switzerland) to get them delivered to you or kcl.

 

[Spellbound]

Good morning, friends I will pop in and out today. It is going to be a hectic/busy day for me.

 

[grammieto5]

How kind and thoughtful of you, grammieto5. Thank you so much! :loveyou:

Thanks Rose, LOL I realized after making that post that it was Sunday, so I won't be mailing it until today. In a few days all the kids will be here so I'll have one of them post the photo here for me

 

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Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
*** Electronically Filed ***
11/24/2014 8:00 AM

11/20/2014

TRIAL MINUTE ENTRY
DAY EIGHTEEN

LET THE RECORD REFLECT that on 11/17/14 Exhibits 385 and 736-741 were
temporarily released to the State and returned this date.

9:49 a.m. Trial to Jury continues from 11/17/14...

Dr. L.C. Miccio Fonseca, having previously been sworn, testifies further.

The Defense offers and admits Defense Exhibit 741 in evidence....

Dr. L.C. Miccio Fonseca testifies further.

State’s Exhibits 742 and 743 are marked for identification.
State’s Exhibits 744 and 745 are marked for identification...
State’s Exhibits 746 and 747 are marked for identification....

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/112014/m6586428.pdf
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Case Documents

Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
11/24/2014 005 - ME: Hearing - Party (001) 11/24/2014
11/24/2014 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 11/24/2014
11/21/2014 023 - ME: Order Entered By Court - Party (001) 11/21/2014
11/20/2014 OBJ - Objection/Opposition. - Party (001) 11/21/2014
NOTE: OBJECTION TO DEFENDANTS MOTION TO DISMISS ALL CHARGES WITH PREJUDICE AND/OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE TO DISMISS THE STATES NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK THE DEATH PENALTY DUE TO RECENTLY DISCOVERED PURPOSEFUL AND EGREGIOUS PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT
11/20/2014 RES - Response - Party (001) 11/20/2014
NOTE: TO STATE'S MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AND STATE'S MOTION TO STRIKE

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

 

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Jodi Arias Updates ‏@JodiAnnArias 12h12 hours ago
#jodiarias on restriction because she shared food with someone who was hungry. No good deed goes unpunished.

https://twitter.com/JodiAnnArias

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Her supporters must think there are stupid people out here.
How can she "share her food" if she's in isolation?
And no one is hungry in Sheriff Joe's jail with 2600 calories a day.

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How to pronounce Worcestershire Sauce?

[video=youtube;YwTT8YQFJDQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTT8YQFJDQ[/video]

Because I only spoke only Italian before attending elementary school, I find it very hard to pronounce
some words (very embarrassing). :shame:

Why isn't it wor- cester- shire???

How to Pronounce WORCESTERSHIRE -- AMERICAN ENGLISH PRONUNCIATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fNFo2nsNw

:seeya:

 

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Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan 26m26 minutes ago
#JuanMartinez goes after #JodiArias expert today... will Juan destroy this expert? #atlantaalive
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Stay strong:

 

[rose222]

Jodi Arias Updates ‏@JodiAnnArias 12h12 hours ago
#jodiarias on restriction because she shared food with someone who was hungry. No good deed goes unpunished.

https://twitter.com/JodiAnnArias

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Her supporters must think there are stupid people out here.
How can she "share her food" if she's in isolation?
And no one is hungry in Sheriff Joe's jail with 2600 calories a day.

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LOL. Judge Judy is the best!

Arias could feed the whole world ten times and it still won't make up for butchering an innocent man to death and then attempting to ruin his good name. Nice try. NOT.

 

[grammieto5]

JFK assassination in 1963, I was in JR High, 9th grade, walking out of the restroom, laughing with my girlfriends, it was lunch time, when we walked out it was soooo quiet, no one was talking, everyone was just standing around, I still remember that eerie feeling of quiet. Then it was repeated on the loud speaker, what had happened. I remember everyone was in shock, and the crying, we did not know what to do. We were all in shock, even the teachers; no one knew what to do. I remember we were all told to go home, but no one left. I remember we all went to the quad and just sat around on the grass, not understanding what how why?

 

[cindymac]

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How to pronounce Worcestershire Sauce?

[video=youtube;YwTT8YQFJDQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTT8YQFJDQ[/video]

Because I only spoke only Italian before attending elementary school, I find it very hard to pronounce
some words (very embarrassing). :shame:

Why isn't it wor- cester- shire???

How to Pronounce WORCESTERSHIRE -- AMERICAN ENGLISH PRONUNCIATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fNFo2nsNw

:seeya:

worcestershire = woos-ter-sheer
(with woos pronounced the same as "don't be such a woos")

In practice (round the dinner table, etc.), the sauce is abbreviated to "worcester sauce" (wooster sauce) - or even easier "Lea and Perrins"!

There are all sorts of pronunciation quirks over the water, such as Cholmondeley which is pronounced Chum-lee. As to why, no idea - just that the names are so old, I suppose, so they've been seriously run through the mill.

(I'm half British)

 

[Bernina]

You mean you don't like Frank Sinatra -SACRILEGE!!!! hwow:



OR Disco from the 70's: (you were probably too young to appreciate it

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OOOOH- Barry White :hot:



(EH- Bruno is just OK for me

:facepalm

Naw, I was around for disco..........born 1961, Y/N..........it was just too "Saturday Night Fever" for me!:facepalm: Kind of like Country music when it went all "line dancing". :floorlaugh: Loosing your gal, your truck and your dog was one thing, but "Achy Breaky Heart"?

First album I ever got, at 12, was Cat Steven's "Tea for the Tillerman". That's probably what shaped my ideas on music.

[video=youtube;F_vy-eWGKSk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_vy-eWGKSk[/video]