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  • #981
Bernina :tyou: for todays tweets.

You will have a two week vacation - enjoy the holidays.
Hanuka :menorah: Christmas :christmastree: and New Years :confetti:

Actually why not everyone enjoy the holidays :party:

Ditto that!

And while we're enjoying friends, family and fellowship, may Arias stare glumly (and alone) at her tepid soy-turkey casserole and the lump of coal in her stocking.
 
  • #982
The DT sure has painted a sympathetic figure in CMJA at this point and IMO that is what they were going for. Personally, I think TA was not the best of boyfriends, was incredibly immature and very conflicted. I don't think he is a pervert or a pedophile. CMJA just couldnt get it through her head or understand why he just wasn't that into her. I don't think TA saw her as anything more than a sex partner, friend with benefits. I truly believe that CMJA was all about sex.

You teach people how to treat you. CMJA did just that. Unfortunately, she just couldn't accept that TA was trying to move on. I think the day he died, they had sex, fooled around and then he may have said, OK it is time for you to go. IMO she was trying to convince him to take her on the cruise and to the executive ball. He passed. She couldn't handle it and became enraged. Tragic ending. IMO

BBM I don't understand how you can say he was wasn't "the best of boyfriends". I think, while they were "official", he treated her decent- traveled with her and spent time with her and their friends, etc., and then when Travis decided that missy:jail: wasn't for him, he told her to see other men. What was lacking in Travis in your estimation of a good /best boyfriend?
Why do you think he was immature?

I do agree with the rest of the post, tho'.

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Link: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/76/98/e9/7698e9ecdbba552a28c0670d9eef0c78.jpg
 
  • #983
IS JODI ARIAS MANIPULATING THE JUDGE & COULD THE CASE BE TAINTED BY 🤬🤬🤬🤬? (clip with BK)

"...Beth Karas of KarasOnCrime.com brings us the latest from Phoenix where she has been monitoring the twists and turns in the courtroom."

http://janeunchained.com/2014/12/18...-the-judge-could-the-case-be-tainted-by-🤬🤬🤬🤬/
 
  • #984
Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 33s34 seconds ago
"Pedophiles (according to #jodiarias) in their life?!" ... Didn't fit


Was that in her journal or did missy:jail: say that to the Dr.?

I.hate.tweeted.trials.
 
  • #985
Before we get all depressed over court proceedings today, I thought I'd throw in a funny. Cats + Christmas Tree = Oy Vey!

[video=youtube;Pj2ceEcpbgg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj2ceEcpbgg[/video]

Just loved this- thank-you :loveyou:
 
  • #986
I just wanted to say that I appreciate you, Bernina!
 
  • #987
  • #988
Thank you so much! This is the filly I bred that was born 2/24/12. She has just started having a rider on her back (Under Saddle). I am so thrilled with her progress. Beauty, brain and athleticism. She is bred for the Hunter discipline, which you can tell by her movement. The Frisian had more dressage movement with their natural gait. Thank you again!

So this is your horse? How wonderful and I'm so happy that you have something that excites you so much. Makes life worth living, IMO.

[video=youtube;PznhJenTprQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PznhJenTprQ[/video]
 
  • #989
  • #990
Had to come back..........MAJOR EPIPHANY!!!!!!

This is a stun gun:

Sabre%20Stun%20Gun.jpg


They work best on bare flesh. The grips are made of non-conducting material so you don't inadvertently shock yourself when you "fire" it. This is NOT a Taser that shoots 2 electrical filaments with metal prongs (and a bunch of "dots" that can trace the Tacer to it's owner)

What if.....and bear with me..........TA is in the shower, CMJA hits him with the Stun Gun, not only bare flesh but WET bare flesh. CMJA's hand is "grounded" by the grip.
The maximum effective areas for stun gun usage are upper shoulder, below the rib cage, and the upper hip.
TA slumps into the shower stall,
Manufacturers' instructions and manuals shipped with the products state that a half-second shock duration will cause intense pain and muscle contractions, startling most people greatly. Two to three seconds will often cause the recipient to become dazed and drop to the ground, and over three seconds will usually completely disorient and drop the recipient for at least several seconds. TASER International warns law enforcement agencies that "prolonged or continuous exposure(s) to the TASER device’s electrical charge" may lead to medical risks such as cumulative exhaustion and breathing impairment.
CMJA goes all stab happy, one glove and her finger get cut cause she is MAD, TA isn't making a sound because he's gotten big time electrocuted. She ASSUMES he going to bleed out, the End. And she made sure she had her latex gloves on, you know, the ones she has BOXES of.

CMJA goes back to the room to do a clean up of any of her stuff, (she may have been the one who stripped the bed while TA went to take a shower) while TA has somewhat "come to", in a daze, the shower has flooded parts of the bathroom (the soaked boxes in the closet)because his body was on the drain. He struggles to the sink and then tries to make it to his bedroom to his phone. Blood trail as he tries to steady himself with the wall.

CMJA catches site of TA, grabs the knife, stab, stab, stab, to his back, she's going gonzo and she already stashed the Taser in her pack. TA makes an effort to turn over, he can't breath, CMJA goes for his throat. Now she's got to drag him back to the bathroom because she doesn't want someone finding him in the hall. Her adrenaline is pumping. Oops, used the wall to steady herself, BAM, bloody palm print, both blood types, she forgot to put another pair of gloves back on when she grabbed the knife.

TA is still breathing and starting to moan, CMJA stuffs him in the shower........CMJA goes back to her pack, grabs her gun, and shoots him (could she have used one of the decorative pillows? She's made the whole situation pretty quiet so far). Shell casing falls in blood pool not effected by the overflowing shower. Starts using towels to mop up......

Oh CRAP, the camera, totally misses the shell casing, grab some gloves, duh, Jodie, "delete, delete, delete", ah screw this, throw it in the washer, she removes the bedding into the dryer and puts various items in the washer with the camera. Put in half a container of bleach, shut the lid, turn on the washer.......................and off to Utah.

*I thought of this as I was taking a shower......the "Stun Gun" revelation in CMJA's journals really stuck with me.*

And.............who brings a stun gun to a knife fight? Cause wasn't that what TA would actually be doing if he borrowed it to "catch" the slasher? I mean, COME ON!

That's it...........epiphany in the shower.:thinking:
 
  • #991
Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 33s34 seconds ago
"Pedophiles (according to #jodiarias) in their life?!" ... Didn't fit


Was that in her journal or did missy:jail: say that to the Dr.?

I.hate.tweeted.trials.


That was a WAT observation, Kinsey S. at the touchpad.
 
  • #992
Had to come back..........MAJOR EPIPHANY!!!!!!

This is a stun gun:

Sabre%20Stun%20Gun.jpg


They work best on bare flesh. The grips are made of non-conducting material so you don't inadvertently shock yourself when you "fire" it. This is NOT a Taser that shoots 2 electrical filaments with metal prongs (and a bunch of "dots" that can trace the Tacer to it's owner)

What if.....and bear with me..........TA is in the shower, CMJA hits him with the Stun Gun, not only bare flesh but WET bare flesh. CMJA's hand is "grounded" by the grip. TA slumps into the shower stall, CMJA goes all stab happy, one glove and her finger get cut cause she is MAD, TA isn't making a sound because he's gotten big time electrocuted. She ASSUMES he going to bleed out, the End. And she made sure she had her latex gloves on, you know, the ones she has BOXES of.

CMJA goes back to the room to do a clean up of any of her stuff, (she may have been the one who stripped the bed while TA went to take a shower) while TA has somewhat "come to", in a daze, the shower has flooded parts of the bathroom (the soaked boxes in the closet)because his body was on the drain. He struggles to the sink and then tries to make it to his bedroom to his phone. Blood trail as he tries to steady himself with the wall.

CMJA catches site of TA, grabs the knife, stab, stab, stab, to his back, she's going gonzo and she already stashed the Taser in her pack. TA makes an effort to turn over, he can't breath, CMJA goes for his throat. Now she's got to drag him back to the bathroom because she doesn't want someone finding him in the hall. Her adrenaline is pumping. Oops, used the wall to steady herself, BAM, bloody palm print, both blood types, she forgot to put another pair of gloves back on when she grabbed the knife.

TA is still breathing and starting to moan, CMJA stuffs him in the shower........CMJA goes back to her pack, grabs her gun, and shoots him (could she have used one of the decorative pillows? She's made the whole situation pretty quiet so far). Shell casing falls in blood pool not effected by the overflowing shower. Starts using towels to mop up......

Oh CRAP, the camera, totally misses the shell casing, grab some gloves, duh, Jodie, "delete, delete, delete", ah screw this, throw it in the washer, she removes the bedding into the dryer and puts various items in the washer with the camera. Put in half a container of bleach, shut the lid, turn on the washer.......................and off to Utah.

*I thought of this as I was taking a shower......the "Stun Gun" revelation in CMJA's journals really stuck with me.*

And.............who brings a stun gun to a knife fight? Cause wasn't that what TA would actually be doing if he borrowed it to "catch" the slasher? I mean, COME ON!

That's it...........epiphany in the shower.:thinking:

I was thinking that too...that she zapped him with a stun gun. The look on his face in one of the later shower photos could be of a man incapacitated in such a way. Maybe that put him in a sitting position momentarily. And he got up just as she pulled the knife.

How long would a person be incapacitated by a stun gun? And how incapacitated would they be? I do not know much about them but WOW to her mentioning one in her journal, huh? It's something we never thought to consider but I do not think it is outside the realm of possibility that if she had one she brought it with her that day. She knew she would need to subdue him to kill him--because no way did she want to kill him while he slept. She wanted him fully aware and looking her in the eye when she attacked, of that I have always been certain.
 
  • #993

I just popped in here to see what you guys were talking about and I see a photo of the gorgeous Adriana Lima. Now I know why! Arias is narcissistic to an extreme degree. 'You should have at least done your makeup, Jodi, gosh.' :gaah: Vacant eyes, empty heart, devilish mind...no makeup in the world can fix that.

Bernina...your new stun gun theory makes a lot of sense. I've long wondered how Travis got from the shower to the sink while JA had barely a cut. Quite a bit of new, damning information this time around.

Anyway...happy holidays everyone! In the words of Shakespeare...' May health, peace and sweet content be yours.' Remember to enjoy the small pleasures in life....and....keep the Faith! :loveyou:
 
  • #994
The stun gun was a revelation to me, and I agree she may have used it on TA. The only thing missing in your possible description was the bloody area at the sink. I wonder if there is any way to know if a stun gun had been used. Wouldn't it be ironic if a defense witness tipped us off to "how" she was able to overcome him so well? I sure hope Juan pursues this in a big way.

ETA: ooops, I re-read your post, Bernina, and see you did put the sink into your possible theory. Sounds very plausible! Thank you.
 
  • #995
Hey everyone. I missed most of today but I think I missed more killer praise and more victim bashing.
I am actually ready for a break from the praising of the killer.

I do want this retrial wrapped up and the killer off to prison forever.

Looks like the gray hairs are multiplying on the killers head.
 
  • #996
Now Juan has two weeks to investigate the stun gun theory.

I have no idea how this would play into mitigating factors.

Would it be in favor of Jodi (reason for mention by defense) - Travis was in shock or unaware of the stabs, did not feel the pain.
Jodi was being her kind of kind. But if she knew she was going to use it that would be premeditation.?.?.?
But at this point does it matter she already is found guilty of premeditation. So it then would turn back to mitigating reason.

Huh, I always said, it's ok to talk to yourself - just don't argue. That's when you cross the line.
Well folks, looks like I just crossed that line.......

I hope this makes sense :shame:
 
  • #997
I really do not think the stun gun will play into anything trial-wise. We are past the guilt phase and cruelty has already been determined to be a factor in the crime. Nothing about a stun gun being used could be mitigating that I can think of. And Juan is not wanting to feed into this nonsense of snapped or not, premeditated or not, he suffered or didn't suffer, etc. All that has already been heard and the verdict is in on that.

I am not sure Juan will spend a lot of time with this doc. If he doesn't, then redirect should be short as it is supposed to be limited to what he brings up in cross. Of course, in Judge Sherry's court, what is supposed to be isn't always what is.

We'll find out next month.
 
  • #998
I found this interesting and posted on the retrial page.
I just read something interesting. Today it was said that JA offered Travis her stun gun to catch the tire slasher on
December 9th. The police report for the slashing is dated February 11th leading me to believe even more firmly that these journals are altered. So JA offers the stun gun two months before the slashing occurred. Ooops! Who gave her the journals to mess with? I have a guess.
The original police report is posted on JA hashtag. Someone is doing some serious sleuthing.
 
  • #999
Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 31s32 seconds ago
The great @CarolynSungCNN just observed a juror question going into the bin. Thank you for noticing that C. #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 46s46 seconds ago
#JodiArias watches testimony from Geffner.

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Yihyun Jeong ‏@yihyun_jeong 33s34 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Willmott continues to point out instances where #JodiArias wrote about positive points over negative points in journal.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 47s48 seconds ago
Gef- #jodiarias doesn't always write the direct things in her journal. "There are things about him that will never sit right with me."



Notice how CMJA has that "Andrea Yates" spaced out look on her face since all of her lies are being brought out in the court room ? How is that for playing the part ?
 
  • #1,000
Read "joint account" on BK site from this morning. Seems it WAS mentioned in the 1st trial? THus the issues about CMJA balancing her checkbook?

I dunno.......:thinking:

I haven't had a lot of time the last couple of days and am just now reading here, but did follow part of BK's site off and on. I am still mind boggled at this little bit of info that they had a joint account ? And that Travis borrowed money from CMJA ? What ?! That is totally not in line with everything else we have learned. CMJA was always broke and borrowing money from Travis, she was trying to / or not, pay him back for the car. ... not the other way around. How is this even happening ?! Hell, she wasn't even employed half the time, and was always sponging off her boyfriends. Where would she get the money to loan anyone ? And they had a joint account ? Travis surely wasn't that stupid, surely. Could she have opened up an account and put his name on it without him knowing ? Idk, this is beyond over the top, it's insane. :gaah:
 
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