SIDEBAR #37 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 26s27 seconds ago
Judge calls noon recess. Back at 1:30pm MT #jodiarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 32s33 seconds ago
Noon recess. Wolverine will now be instructed to no longer refer to TA as The Victim over a burger. See you at 1:30pm. #jodiarias


Back at 1:30 Az time, kids..............Laterz!!!! :seeya:

 

[Love Never Fails]

Of course. judge has to give defense more time to smear Travis and Juan.

 

[Kensie]

Please explain to me, the purpose of this witness??? is not a reason for slaughtering a person.
Travis was not the only person to use the computer.

It is pretty bad when the Killer's only mitigation factor is falsely trashing the victim because the killer has NO good qualities.

 

[zoey]

Please explain to me, the purpose of this witness??? is not a reason for slaughtering a person.
Travis was not the only person to use the computer.

It is pretty bad when the Killer's only mitigation factor is falsely trashing the victim because the killer has NO good qualities.

Exactly

 

[YESorNO]

You just know I have to look-up what the heck is a data scientist :facepalm: and why no college degree :sheesh: so here goes:
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Data Scientist: The Sexiest Job of the 21st Century

Who Are These People?

If capitalizing on big data depends on hiring scarce data scientists, then the challenge for managers is to learn how to identify that talent, attract it to an enterprise, and make it productive. None of those tasks is as straightforward as it is with other, established organizational roles. Start with the fact that there are no university programs offering degrees in data science. There is also little consensus on where the role fits in an organization, how data scientists can add the most value, and how their performance should be measured...

What kind of person does all this? What abilities make a data scientist successful? Think of him or her as a hybrid of data hacker, analyst, communicator, and trusted adviser. The combination is extremely powerful—and rare.

Data scientists’ most basic, universal skill is the ability to write code. ...

https://hbr.org/2012/10/data-scientist-the-sexiest-job-of-the-21st-century/
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How do I become a data scientist?

"..Complete Harvard's Data Science Course

This course is developed in part by a fellow Quora user, Professor Joe Blitzstein...
FORMAL WAY

For a more formal way of becoming a data scientist one can look into this post (reproduced below)- How to acquire the "Essential Skill Set"?- the Formal way.
The Essential Skill Set are the basic fundamental skills which every data scientist is expected to know. Traditionally, these can be acquired by undertaking a computer science degree or a statistics degree from an institution...."

Being data scientist requires a solid foundation typically in computer science and applications, modeling, statistics, analytics and math....

A Data Scientist is an hybrid between a statistician and a programmer.

He isn't a professional statistician since he won't publish major scientific contributions (and if he does, he is among the rare ones). Neither is he a programmer since he haven't received the proper training and haven't yet coded as much as a computer science graduate.

He is however a hacker in the sense that he can search for what is needed to perform some tasks (using the internet, forums, books and sometimes intuition)

He is also superior to a statistician in the sense that he can code (not only in a scientifically way but rather in a professional, real-world setting). He also outperforms a basic computer programmer since he knows how to analyze data, display visualizations, interpret and deliver results....

Alas, all of this greatness comes at a price. There isn't any formal education to become a Data Scientist. You have to either major in applied mathematics or computer science (or any other scientifically oriented major) and then pick up the missing skills by yourself via e-learning, books, forums, meet-ups...

http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-become-a-data-scientist
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This article has answers from different people:


Is it necessary to have Masters Degree to become a Data Scientist? Or are there any certificate courses that can help me to become a Data Scientist?

To learn data science -- absolutely. A few schools are building undergraduate programs that will be akin to a computer science degree. You will learn core skills, but they won't make you a scientist who will be advancing the field...

Remember that Data Scientist is just a Title. (A media hyped title) Some give themselves or have this title because that's the work they do, not because they have a particular degree. Some may hold degrees in Statistics, Mathematics, Computer Science, the disciplines vary.

You can learn data science anywhere. No single Masters Program could cover all the disciplines needed in significant depth for one to be an expert in all these areas. Selecting an area or two or three and having depth and expertise in those is common. Many companies do not have just a "Data Scientist" but teams comprised of experts from the different disciplines.
While some institutions are offering or creating Masters Programs with this title, most of the current field of Data Scientist have no such Degree.
Data Scientist is just a title. A good Masters to get you in the arena is Operations Research...

http://www.kdnuggets.com/2014/06/masters-degree-become-data-scientist.html
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So- I think this Mr. Smith is ligit about what he knows, even without a degree. He must have some computer science, statistic, math, :blah::blah: background, IMO.

He's just analyzing the data that was found on the computer and reporting what he found, IMO. He's not making a judgement call here, but when he said "the victim",IMO, he knows very well that

Travis was murdered by missy:jail:.

I'm still unclear how the viruses, originally appeared on the computer and when?

Anyone know? I may have missed that info.

I wonder what missy:jail: said in the "secret witness" testimony?

One more thing- I just know missy:jail: put that /virus on the computer- just intuition here.

 

[Dmacky]

If KN is going to be up all day, I'm not interested. I have a feeling that is what's going on... In Nurmi's mind this gives the jury until Monday to "think" maybe the LE did the delete evidence. Personally, I think this will backfire.

I think the jurors will actually be wondering what the heck computer has to do with "their" job as jurors to sentence JA with LWOP or Death. She's ALREADY been convicted of 1st degree PREMEDITATED MURDER, and the murder was ALSO found to be especially cruel.

* Just a side note.
One of my daughters is a home health care worker. She took care of a 82 yr. old woman with Alzheimer's, now deceased. They bought all her supplies in large quantities, and they were kept in the basement. It was fixed up nice down there and also had a computer and TV. My daughter went downstairs to get some more gloves and CAUGHT the woman's 85 yr. old husband looking at ! She was so disgusted that she called me and told me. YUCK
Long story short...it must be very common :giggle:

 

[YESorNO]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 26m26 minutes ago
Media attorney is addressing Judge about camera'd being turned off #jodiarias #3tvarias

en's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 25m25 minutes ago
Judge says an audio is being recorded for later but he's untitled to his privacy #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[YESorNO]

It's 29 degrees now- feels very tropical compared to -9 degrees this AM.

 

[Kensie]

I have a major headache - between Mr. Secret Witness and too many Little Debbie's , my head and stomach hurt.

 

[zoey]

If KN is going to be up all day, I'm not interested. I have a feeling that is what's going on... In Nurmi's mind this gives the jury until Monday to "think" maybe the LE did the delete evidence. Personally, I think this will backfire.

I think the jurors will actually be wondering what the heck computer has to do with "their" job as jurors to sentence JA with LWOP or Death. She's ALREADY been sentenced to 1st degree PREMEDITATED MURDER, that was ALSO found to be especially cruel.

* Just a side note.
One of my daughters is a home health care worker. She took care of a 82 yr. old woman with Alzheimer's, now deceased. Her husband, who was/is 85. They bought all her supplies in large quantities. They were kept in the basement, where there also had a computer and TV. My daughter went downstairs to get some gloves and CAUGHT the 85 yr. old man looking at ! She was so disgusted that she called me and told me. YUCK
Long story short...it must be very common :giggle:

It is ~~

 

[Hez]

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So- I think this Mr. Smith is ligit about what he knows, even without a degree. He must have some computer science, statistic, math, :blah::blah: background, IMO.

He's just analyzing the data that was found on the computer and reporting what he found, IMO. He's not making a judgement call here, but when he said "the victim",IMO, he knows very well that

Travis was murdered by missy:jail:.

I'm still unclear how the viruses, originally appeared on the computer and when?

Anyone know? I may have missed that info.

I wonder what missy:jail: said in the "secret witness" testimony?

One more thing- I just know missy:jail: put that /virus on the computer- just intuition here.

So the judge is basically allowing a computer hacker to allege prosecutorical misconduct in front of the jury. Awesome. :facepalm:

 

[Kensie]

It's 29 degrees now- feels very tropical compared to -9 degrees this AM.

Down South, we are only up to 25 after our low of 5 this morning. Enjoy the heatwave.

 

[YESorNO]

If KN is going to be up all day, I'm not interested. I have a feeling that is what's going on... In Nurmi's mind this gives the jury until Monday to "think" maybe the LE did the delete evidence. Personally, I think this will backfire.

I think the jurors will actually be wondering what the heck computer has to do with "their" job as jurors to sentence JA with LWOP or Death. She's ALREADY been sentenced to 1st degree PREMEDITATED MURDER, that was ALSO found to be especially cruel.

* Just a side note.
One of my daughters is a home health care worker. She took care of a 82 yr. old woman with Alzheimer's, now deceased. Her husband, who was/is 85. They bought all her supplies in large quantities. They were kept in the basement, where there also had a computer and TV. My daughter went downstairs to get some gloves and CAUGHT the 85 yr. old man looking at ! She was so disgusted that she called me and told me. YUCK
Long story short...it must be very common :giggle:

BBM Nurmi is "showing" (trying to show) that Travis was not what he appeared in public and that he was a perv- that missy:jail: wasn't lying Pftt about her abuse from him because, "look here- he watched and was a disgusting person". In this way, even tho' missy:jail: has already been found guilty of M1, that maybe she isn't that bad of a person, and some jurors might consider her not one of the "worst-of-the-worst" and not give her the DP.

Nurmi's no fool and jurors can be fooled into believing anything, like the foreman before, especially if some jurors don't know all the ins and outs of the original trial. Just hope, as I have said before, that there are some jurors who know what the story was before- self defense and how now the story has changed to "Travis was an evil man and abused missy:jail:". Pfttttt

I really want to know just what lies missy:jail: spouted as the "secret witness".

 

[Zuri]

Down South, we are only up to 25 after our low of 5 this morning. Enjoy the heatwave.

In Delaware, at this moment, it is 16.7 degrees in the sun, according to my thermometer. The TV says 8 degrees with the windchill. KCL is currently 4 hours drive time north of me and is enjoying -0 temps. Big change from Phoenix lol.

 

[YESorNO]

So the judge is basically allowing a computer hacker to allege prosecutorical misconduct in front of the jury. Awesome. :facepalm:

Computer hackers are very smart and he's just analyzing the computer, not making judgments. There's no reason for JSS to disallow his testimony, IMO.

Someone has to get down to the truth of all the and the alleged prosecutorial misconduct and who better than a computer hacker, IMO.

 

[NotMyselfNEMore]

Wasn't Travis' laptop a Compaq Presario - Not a Toshiba? I thought CMJA had the Toshiba?

 

[Ruby]

Call me slow - but was there a ruling on the misconduct porngate portion of this trial?

Is that why this expert scientist with no degree or official education, who's taking the place of the expertNONexpert is on the stand.
He's claiming no on the `08 computer, but believes there's on the later computer which is to be the same information.
He's also claiming that the later information has been compromised.
So is he really saying on the original computer there was no , but now there's after the computer has been compromised.
Wasn't that when the defense had the computer and not the state or Mesa PD?
Why would Mesa PD want to put on the computer, then erase it. Her defense was she wasn't there, then intruders did it, then self defense.
It was not made her kill him until after the trial and the retrial sentencing phase came along.
Oh and guess what, NOW there is on the computer.
Something does not sound right.
And we probably will not see Juan's side until next Monday. If ever.

 

[deedee21]

Its time for the state of Arizona to post a large cash reward for the return of Jodis kill kit. No questions asked.

 

[Ruby]

Wasn't Travis' laptop a Compaq Presario - Not a Toshiba? I thought CMJA had the Toshiba?

The witness is a Computer Data Scientist they check data - not the kind of computer or to make sure it's the right one :laughing:

 

[Nore]

Hi Kensie , it's 7 above in Cleveland. Wont get warmer than this at this hour.:loveyou: