SIDEBAR #38 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

yuck.... What a word for a computer tool? "Autopsy"

I tried sleuthing the developers....gah........it's all so "cloak and hacker".:gaah: It's part of something called the "Coroner's Toolkit", along with something called the "Sleuth Kit".

Sounds real perfessionalz to me..............right.

 

[Bernina]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 7m7 minutes ago
we're back with a "counsel come on up" -- and the static continues. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 8m8 minutes ago
Counsel is in a sizzle.. jury still not in courtroom. Need burger asap. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes agoPhoenix, AZ
The Alexanders are here, Sam, Tanisha, Harold and friends...#jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 6m6 minutes ago
Maria swigs Vitamin Water as she waits for counsel to be out of sizzle. Gotta stay vitamined up for this trial. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes agoPhoenix, AZ
Jodi's mom is here along with her supporters. She gave them a long gaze before recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes agoPhoenix, AZ
Sidebar..yep #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 4m4 minutes ago
Going through an extended sizzle here. Juan is approx. 1/3 inch taller than Willmott today. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago
Smith sits on stand patiently as we are still sizzling. Perhaps contemplating a new cut for his beard. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 56s56 seconds ago
Nurmi has other questions for Smith. Jury on their way in now. #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi is asked if he has other questions for Smith. "oh yeah" #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 29s30 seconds ago
back with more Nurmi questions... #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 28s28 seconds ago
#JodiArias looks at her followers are extra creepy today. Slight smile. She did the praying hand pose and covered her electro belt up.

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 40s40 seconds ago
Make that 25 minute break -- testimony from #jodiarias data expert continues #abc15

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 35s36 seconds ago
Smith says it's not true that all cops use EnCase. Some use Autopsy. #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 47s48 seconds ago
Homeland Security apparently uses Autopsy per Smith, various cops in Texas, etc. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 59s60 seconds ago
Smith says "A lot of law enforcement agencies that use Autopsy, one of them being homeland security." #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 45s46 seconds ago
Nurmi asks if EnCase is used by peolpe who don't know as much as much as Smith does. Objection overruled. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 48s49 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Smith is naming gov agencies, universities and police depts that use Autopsy #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 41s42 seconds ago
Smith continues to explain how Autopsy is just as good if not the best solution for examining a computer forensically. #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes agoPhoenix, AZ
Smith says Autopsy is a top layer in his research #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
"John Smith" says "Autopsy" free program is best way to begin focus on computer investigation. #jodiarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Smith prefers to use Autopsy again because it is open source and he has access to the code to ensure legitimacy and accuracy. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 36s36 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Why not Encase? Autopsy is open source so he prefers that #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 23s23 seconds ago
Smith believes it's more secure and bugs are reported and fixed quicker in Autopsy verses Encase etc. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago
#jodiarias data expert says he uses free program bc it's an open source and he has access to use his own tools with no extra costs #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 49s50 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Smith feels Autopsy is more bug free and bugs get fixed a lot faster than Encase #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 29s29 seconds ago
Numi inquires about Smith and if he works for major corporations and Juan is all "JECT!!!!!!" they proach.. they sizzle. #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 52s53 seconds ago
i fully expect us to get one more question before lunch break. just one. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 35s35 seconds ago
During atty bench conference #jodiarias mom Sandy looked over at #TravisAlexander family -- TA aunt from Chicago is on court #abc15

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 23s23 seconds ago
#jodiarias jurors look utterly bored over Nurmi's endless questions for data scientist w/o degree #abc15

 

[Bernina]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 32s32 seconds ago
Out of the sizzle. Nurms throws a left handed chicken wing move. Back to the major corporation question to Smith. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 30s30 seconds ago
#jodiarias friend and original ghost tweeter Donavan is also in court along with 2 other supporters in front row #abc15

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 52s52 seconds ago
For over 10 years Smith has worked with major corporations and used Autopsy. I haven't heard a name of a corp. yet though. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 51s51 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- You said you consulted with major businessesSmith- Yes sir, around 10 years #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Perhaps one of them is compuhypermegaglobalnet.corp? #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 49s50 seconds ago
Nurmi: If a Mesa PD person took a 4 day training on EnCase would they be an expert? #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 52s53 seconds ago
Juan is quick to object on these questions from Nurmi about the corporations and use of Autopsy. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Is Autopsy a program you would useSmith- Yes, that's why I'm using it here #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
back to the 7 hour difference and time delays... #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 56s56 seconds ago
#jodiarias atty now trying to re-establish data scientist credentials - no degree - 2 criminal cases but worked for corporations #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 46s47 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says no amount of math changes the times they have time stamps #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 53s54 seconds ago
Nurmi: "2+2 is 4, 3+3 is 6, it doesn't matter does it because these time stamps are different, right?" #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 29s29 seconds ago
Nurmi and Smith clearly disparaging Mesa Police technology and expertise in analyzing TA's computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 36s37 seconds ago
jury looks like they got some coffee and they're paying attention. And yet still looks like they're struggling to follow. #JodiArias

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 28s29 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up Witness not having a degree. #jodiarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 33s33 seconds ago
"John Smith" says even tho he never got degree from San Jose State, he's still getting plenty of work examining computers. #jodiarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 48s48 seconds ago
Nurmi going after the San Jose State #GoSpartans and how Smith doesn't need a degree to know what he's talking about. #JodiArias :facepalm:

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 55s55 seconds ago
Many of his clients have been with him for many years. He doesn't need a degree for it, it's skill based to be a data scientist. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 58s59 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- SO a lead detective could come back on the computer and make changes right?Smith- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi asks if he needs a degree for his work, or a skill set. Witness says skill set. #jodiarias

MC Superior Court ‏@courtpio 49s49 seconds ago
Lunch recess in State v #JodiArias.

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago
Judge calls afternoon recess, back at 1:25pm MT. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 56s56 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- So because you don't have a degree does that mean you aren't experienced. Major corps use you correct? #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Smith steps down from the standular region. Counsel is in a sizzle. Jury is not present. I am going for a BURGER! <3 you all! #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ 55s56 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Smith- They use me and have re used me. I have the skills and confidence and my clients would agree #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
Counsel approaches. Doesn't look like we're getting a DP ruling before lunch. Jury back at 125. #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

MaryEllen Resendez &#8207;@maryellenabc15 41s41 seconds ago
#jodiarias court breaks for lunch -- JA rives glasses and is now conversing with atty Jennifer Wilmott #abc15


OK, John Smith lacks total credibility as far as I'm concerned...........NOT buying it.

 

[Bernina]

MaryEllen Resendez &#8207;@maryellenabc15 2m2 minutes ago
#jodiarias covers her face to hide giggle before being led out of court. Testimony resumes 1:25MST #abc15

 

[Bernina]

Justice For Travis &#8207;@Justice4rTravis 50s50 seconds ago
In the midst of this bull*hit testimony.. Here's a pic of Travis & Napoleon

#Justice4Travis #jodiarias

 

[Dmacky]

Mike Watkiss &#8207;@mikewatkiss3tv 29s29 seconds ago
Nurmi and Smith clearly disparaging Mesa Police technology and expertise in analyzing TA's computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 36s37 seconds ago
jury looks like they got some coffee and they're paying attention. And yet still looks like they're struggling to follow. #JodiArias

Carolyn Sung &#8207;@CarolynSungCNN 28s29 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up Witness not having a degree. #jodiarias

Steve Krafft &#8207;@SKrafftFox10 33s33 seconds ago
"John Smith" says even tho he never got degree from San Jose State, he's still getting plenty of work examining computers. #jodiarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 48s48 seconds ago
Nurmi going after the San Jose State #GoSpartans and how Smith doesn't need a degree to know what he's talking about. #JodiArias :facepalm:

Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 55s55 seconds ago
Many of his clients have been with him for many years. He doesn't need a degree for it, it's skill based to be a data scientist. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ 58s59 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- SO a lead detective could come back on the computer and make changes right?Smith- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Carolyn Sung &#8207;@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi asks if he needs a degree for his work, or a skill set. Witness says skill set. #jodiarias

MC Superior Court &#8207;@courtpio 49s49 seconds ago
Lunch recess in State v #JodiArias.

Carolyn Sung &#8207;@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago
Judge calls afternoon recess, back at 1:25pm MT. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ 56s56 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- So because you don't have a degree does that mean you aren't experienced. Major corps use you correct? #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Smith steps down from the standular region. Counsel is in a sizzle. Jury is not present. I am going for a BURGER! <3 you all! #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ 55s56 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Smith- They use me and have re used me. I have the skills and confidence and my clients would agree #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
Counsel approaches. Doesn't look like we're getting a DP ruling before lunch. Jury back at 125. #JodiArias

So does sue smith live in Texas? I've seen another post awhile back that said that same city.

 

[Kensie]

Sue says a lot of generalized things with no specific details.

Talk is cheap. SHow me the details, show me your client list, show me something useful.

 

[YESorNO]

Michael Kiefer &#8207;@michaelbkiefer 35m35 minutes ago
So, will Judge Stephens issue a ruling today on the motion to dismiss intent to seek the death penalty? My guess: late afternoon and denied

The Gold Patrol&#8482; &#8207;@thegoldpatrol 35m35 minutes ago
#jodiarias ENCASE forensic software is more commonly used. Juan questioning why not ENCASE.

The Gold Patrol&#8482; &#8207;@thegoldpatrol 35m35 minutes ago
#jodiarias ENCASE is very expensive. Autopsy forensic software is free. Smith uses Autopsy.

The Gold Patrol&#8482; &#8207;@thegoldpatrol 34m34 minutes ago
#jodiarias According to website, Autopsy forensic software has &#8220;limited function&#8221; Here&#8217;s a comparison http://www.securityisfun.net/2014/02/encase-vs-autopsy-vs-xways.html &#8230;

Encase vs Autopsy vs XWays

"1. Encase:

Pros:
- Easy to use user interface.
- Renown tool and accepted by court of laws.
- Easy reporting features.
- Easy and free tool for acquisition (Encase Imager).
- Built-in support for Bitlocker.
- Nice and user friendly "Review Package" that can be sent to Requestor for reviewing the evidence.

Cons:
- Not cheap.
- Evidence processing can be slow, especially when processing large PST files.
- Not portable by default.
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3. Autopsy:
Pros:
- Free for commercial use.
- Very fast and easy tool for analysis of user's browsing history or internet activities.

Cons:
- Limited function (but it is free!).
- No support for Bitlocker.
- No nice "review package"...."

http://www.securityisfun.net/2014/02/encase-vs-autopsy-vs-xways.html

 

[jane the dood]

MaryEllen Resendez &#8207;@maryellenabc15 2m2 minutes ago
#jodiarias covers her face to hide giggle before being led out of court. Testimony resumes 1:25MST #abc15

O.M.G. What a monster.
:devil:

 

[YESorNO]

Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 18m18 minutes ago
Game on!!!!!! #jodiarias

 

[Kensie]

Yum except for the ketchup!!!

 

[jane the dood]

Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 18m18 minutes ago
Game on!!!!!! #jodiarias

Yum except for the ketchup!!!

Yahbut....it's loaded with lycopene, doncha know? Make mine a veggie burger, oven fries and LOTS of ketchup, pleeze...and maybe some chocolate almond milk? K...thx!

 

[Moonchime]

yuck.... What a word for a computer tool? "Autopsy"

I thought that way too. But, then I realized that the very use of the word "Autopsy" is bringing the jurors back around to the reason why they are sitting there listening to all of this carp to begin with. They are there to sentence CMJA for the butchering of Travis Alexander.

 

[YESorNO]

Found the originators of Autopsy:

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 50s50 seconds ago
Nurmi on damage control to explain what Autopsy is. Smith says he uses it because he helps develop it. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 59s60 seconds ago
Nurmi has Smith explain what Autopsy is and why he chose to use it instead of Encase. He is part of the community that builds it #JodiArias
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Originators of Autopsy:

"...Development

Brian Carrier has developed most of the code in The Sleuth Kit, Autopsy, mac-robber, and TCTUTILs. Dan Farmer and Wietse Venema developed The Coroner's Toolkit, from which these tools were based on. Credit for all patches and debugging help from users are noted in the CHANGES file in each distribution.

Samir Kapuria helped with the new interface design of Autopsy 1.70.

http://www.sleuthkit.org/about.php

So, could Mr. Smith be one of those men????
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Wild About Trial &#8207;@WildAboutTrial 44s44 seconds ago
Smith is using Autopsy now. It is a free program available to anyone and not validated for accuracy explains Juan. #JodiArias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 32s32 seconds ago
Smith admits Autopsy has not been validated as a reliable method. #JodiArias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts 48s49 seconds ago
Martinez says cops use EnCase because it's verified as reliable. #JodiArias
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[Zuri]

I was just on another thread and there was a post there that was so hateful and spiteful, it has brought me to tears. Has anyone else ever been affected this way by another poster's intolerance, racism or bigotry?