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Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 46s47 seconds ago
Nurmi is as aggressive today as Juan Martinez usually is during cross examination. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 57s57 seconds ago
Some sparring going on. Nurmi asking DeMarte if she needs to read a report again. She was asking if HE needed her to read it #JodiArias

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 1m1 minute ago
@EmsterChic "what I care about isyour sexual preferences"

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
#jodiarias defense atty. Kirk Nurmi dripping with sarcasm on cross-x. Not sure this is a a good strategy w/jury.

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 26s27 seconds ago
@SKrafftFox10 esp since they were furiously taking notes yesterday


 
Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 2m2 minutes ago
Nurmi hitting the personality disorder hard getting DeMarte to admit it can be considered a mental illness. #JodiArias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
Now Nurmi is trying to say Geffner said the PTSD was a diagnostic impression not diagnosis #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
DeMarte agrees with Nurmi that borderline personality is a serious mental illness. #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
DeMarte says she didn't see this #jodiarias #3tvarias


Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 3m3 minutes ago
Will or has the nightmare witness who violated a grieving family member @AlyceLaViolette be mentioned in testimony? #jodiarias #gothere


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
Nurmi says DeMarte put in a report that Jodi had Borderline Personality which is a mental illness twice....#jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
DeMarte doesn't remember this #jodiarias #3tvarias


Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 2m2 minutes ago
CRUEL, VICIOUS, VENGEFUL and EVIL are characteristics of Axis 2 dx like BPD but mean one thing: get them out of society #forever #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 23s24 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
In order to diagnose Borderline they have to have symptoms over time....adolescence or early adulthood #jodiarias #3tvarias


M ‏@EmsterChic 22s23 seconds ago
Hey Nurmi what happened to your defense of self-defense? now she's "mentally ill"? #jodiarias




WS's hit a glitch, had to copy to Notepad and paste here!!!! GRRRRR
 
Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
Jurors taking a lot of notes today from 1st and 2nd row. #JodiArias sitting up straight in her chair paying close attention as well.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 16s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says you testified that Borderline makes one childlike?DeMarte says she didn't testify to that. #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks if Borderlines are more sensitive and emotional? DeMarte says yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 46s47 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte is talking about the research on Borderline Personality #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
Nurmi asks DeMarte to explain a researcher's theory on the origin of borderline personality--born with a sensitivity to not control emotion

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 35s36 seconds ago
Can someone now please state the obvious here? SOCIOPATHY PSYCHOPATHY Where are these "mental illnesses"? Walk thru the open door #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 43s44 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
10 miute recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
DeMarte says it usually needs a trigger. Nurmi asks to take the mornign break. #jodiarias


 
Observation from BK's site.........
KN is getting impatient with JD who is standing her ground. (NOTE: She's a good witness--hard to cross examine; hard to shake.)
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That's all I'm going to post.......call it a teaser!
 
Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 41s41 seconds ago
I find it odd that the defense didn't hit the mental illness hard in their mitigation defense, but trashed the victim instead. #JodiArias

ZoeyWatson ‏@ZoeyWatson2014 5m5 minutes ago
Remain calm. However long Nurmi drones on, Juan Martinez gets the last word with his witness. HE is ready !

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Bernina said:
Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
Jurors taking a lot of notes today from 1st and 2nd row. #JodiArias sitting up straight in her chair paying close attention as well.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 16s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says you testified that Borderline makes one childlike?DeMarte says she didn't testify to that. #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks if Borderlines are more sensitive and emotional? DeMarte says yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 46s47 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte is talking about the research on Borderline Personality #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
Nurmi asks DeMarte to explain a researcher's theory on the origin of borderline personality--born with a sensitivity to not control emotion

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 35s36 seconds ago
Can someone now please state the obvious here? SOCIOPATHY PSYCHOPATHY Where are these "mental illnesses"? Walk thru the open door #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 43s44 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
10 miute recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
DeMarte says it usually needs a trigger. Nurmi asks to take the mornign break. #jodiarias
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Nurmi will get mental illness in. He opened the door. Juan will come back and bring in psychopathy. Betcha.
 
Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 5m5 minutes ago
#JodiArias was diagnosed as Borderline Personality by DeMarte. Nurmi is going try to use that and also get Forseca and Geffner diagnoses in

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi is talking about some people are born vulnerabilities to certain disorders #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 42s43 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte says yes and researchers think some kind of environmental factor can trigger it #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
Nurmi lingers over definitions of borderline personality disorder in his questions for DeMarte. #jodiarias


 
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 25s25 seconds ago
DeMarte says that BPD could develop in those who are genetically predisposed if the person's feelings are continuously invalidated.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 18s18 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte- The environment one grows up in where the persons feelings aren't validated can trigger Borderline Personality #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 15s15 seconds ago
DeMarte and Nurmi use the phrase "invalidating environment." #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 41s42 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- So this is more than not being paid attention too by a parent this is a lot more right?DeMarte- Right #jodiarias #3tvaris


 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 9s9 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Was Jodi's environment one that she didn't get validation?DeMarte- From what Jodi told me yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 20s20 seconds ago
Nurmi asks DeMarte for examples of invalidating environment in #jodiarias' background. DeMarte says Arias and parents did not agree.

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 47s48 seconds ago
In reality no one really knows what causes these personality disorders-some come from totally normal homes like #jodiarias #itsaformofevil

ZoeyWatson ‏@ZoeyWatson2014 23s23 seconds ago
@TrialDiariesJ Nurmi is arguing residual doubt . Juan could shut it down, the fact that he is not objecting tells me he has it covered.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 36s37 seconds ago
DeMarte: And when parents don't understand why the child is upset and say "stop it," it perpetuates the environment. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 34s34 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi wants examples of Jodi not being validated?DeMarte says Jodi told her that her parents wouldn't validate her emotions #jodiarias

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 21s22 seconds ago
bpd's are like sieves-no matter how much attn is slips right thru the holes at the bottom - chicken or egg-i don't blame #jodiarias family

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 16s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte says when someone has Borderline it's hard on the parents and they don't know how to react and things get perpetuated #jodiarias
 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 11s12 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Jodi told DeMarte she was sexually attacked by a family member when she was 5 or 6 #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3s4 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte said Jodi had no memory of the event #jodiarias #3tvarias

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 20s20 seconds ago
Is the term "sociopath" too prejudicial? Is there an explanation for this obvious diagnosis not being spoken here? #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 5s5 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte is excellent 4 this jury giving them simple examples to help them understand emotions in people and borderline personality disorder
 
Bernina said:
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 11s12 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Jodi told DeMarte she was sexually attacked by a family member when she was 5 or 6 #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3s4 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte said Jodi had no memory of the event #jodiarias #3tvarias

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 20s20 seconds ago
Is the term "sociopath" too prejudicial? Is there an explanation for this obvious diagnosis not being spoken here? #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 5s5 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte is excellent 4 this jury giving them simple examples to help them understand emotions in people and borderline personality disorder
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How can you say you were sexually attacked at 4-5 years and not remember it????
 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 11s11 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Jodi told DeMarte she looked at TA's MySpace account and got into his emails #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 24s24 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi is trying to say well it's just her word and not a database that proves that #OK #jodiarias #3tvarias

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 1m1 minute ago
wonder how many #childabuse #sexabuse survivors on this jury who never killed anyone are insulted at this latest #jodiarias excuse?

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6s6 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says because Jodi wanted to remain friends with Matt M after he cheated on her it showed her signs of fear of abandonment #jodiarias
 
One thing if note: There are people with BPD that manage their personality disorder well and function normally within their environment. One has to get some help and be willing to be introspective in order to do so. We have several wonderful posters here that admitted they have BPD.
 
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
DeMarte talking about #jodiarias changing hair and getting a boob job possibly as a way to change identity to please the people around her.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 54s55 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte brings up Jodi got a boob job, new car, while with Daryl, and she could have done this to hang onto him #jodiarias #3tvarias

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
#JuanMartinez and Kirk Nurmi leave the bench after a conference with Judge Stephens during the #JodiArias retrial.

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