SIDEBAR #42 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 34s34 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Willmott- Just b/c there is an inconsistency with the dates doesn't mean the violence didn't happen right?Geff- Right #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 49s50 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Now #joidarias wrote the letter to Abe and only showed TA because of power and control issues #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 30s30 seconds ago
Power & Control chart is back up. #JodiArias Geffner said people either lie to show they are a victim but then there shouldn't be trauma.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Jury is looking all over the place and not really engaged right now #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 40s40 seconds ago
Willmott finishes with Geffner. Now to jury questions.

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 37s37 seconds ago
Juror questions next. We're almost done! #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 50s50 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Willmott says when DV happens it's minimized and not really reported and Geffner agreesJuror Question TIME!!!! #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 18s18 seconds ago
sidebar 18 as we get ready for jury questions. #jodiarias

 

[Bernina]

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 44s44 seconds ago
jury question: normal to change how test administered? Dr. G: sometimes. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 49s50 seconds ago
Q: Is it normal to change how a test is administered. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 37s38 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Is it normal to change a test after administered?Geff- Sometimes we will and identify it #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 41s41 seconds ago
A: We're trying to adapt and this is not a normal situation. #JodiArias

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 10s11 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Does changing the way a test is administered normal?Geff- There's nothing normal in this case and the limitations need to be described

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 20s21 seconds ago
Q: Why did you and your team administer a second test? #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 33s33 seconds ago
The jurors are asking about how and why Geffner administered a second test for trauma. He wanted to see if she functioning as before.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 28s28 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Why did you and your team feel it necessary to administer a second Daps test?One was what was happening then and the other dealt with now

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 49s49 seconds ago
And the second test gave more specifics.

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 13s13 seconds ago
I missed the question but something about what's the point of the test. Lol. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 22s22 seconds ago
What is value of qualitative data? History, Geffner says, the big picture.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 23s23 seconds ago
When was #jodiarias diagnosed with ptsd? Geffner says originally in 2010.

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 18s18 seconds ago
When was #JodiArias first diagnosed with PTSD? A: In 2010 by the 1st psychologist.

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 37s38 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
What significance does qualitative data give you if it's just how she felt?Geffner- It's important to see what level of trauma she had

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 9s10 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
When was she diagnosed with PTSD?Geffner - 2010 #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 20s21 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
When did Dr. DeMarte interview her- 2011 #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
Jury question: Is it common for tester to fill in answers for person they're testing? Dr. G: No. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 57s58 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Is it common for someone giving the test to fill in the answers for the personGeff- If language issues. Most fill in themselves #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 53s54 seconds ago
Q: Does it put integrity of test in question? #JodiArias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 7s7 seconds ago
Q: Would #JodiArias have a secondary gain once incarcerated? A: Yes

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 48s49 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Does it put integrity of test in question?Geff- No...language issues can exist #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 14s14 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Would you classify Jodi as having secondary gains with interviews after incarceration Geff- Yes you'd have to take that into consideration

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 32s33 seconds ago
Q: How common are victims of child abuse to experience anger issues? A: It's common. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 26s26 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Wouldn't a person form other religions have the same issues about sexual misconduct..would you chose not to interview them?#jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 17s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Geffner- Well possibly but Mormon religion is very strict #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 13s13 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
How common is it for victims of child abuse and trauma to have internal anger?Geffner- It's very common #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 14s14 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Would absence of internalized anger be consistent with PTSD, Bi Polar or DV #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 17s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Geffner- It doesn't work that way. People react differently. Internal anger is a symptom #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 4s4 seconds ago
The juror questions delved into details of tests and diagnoses. Willmott does follow up. Nothing we haven't heard.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 29s30 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Willmott has Geff tell the jury Jodi passed all her validity scales so she really wouldn't have secondary gain #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 26s26 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Geff says he made notes on the test he didn't write in answers for #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 51s51 seconds ago
Martinez: The defendant has secondary gain, right? "Potentially." Martinez talks about Arias being untruthful on PTSD test.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 48s48 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Juan on secondary gain.....The PDS test Jodi took she lied on correct?Geffner- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 30s30 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
On Daps you wrote down the answer on the second testGeffner- I wrote down what was bothering her #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 7s8 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Juan- But the test asked her to write it down and you did on the second test #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 48s49 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Does it put integrity of test in question?Geff- No...language issues can exist #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 14s14 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Would you classify Jodi as having secondary gains with interviews after incarceration Geff- Yes you'd have to take that into consideration

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 32s33 seconds ago
Q: How common are victims of child abuse to experience anger issues? A: It's common. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 26s26 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Wouldn't a person form other religions have the same issues about sexual misconduct..would you chose not to interview them?#jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 17s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Geffner- Well possibly but Mormon religion is very strict #jodiarias #3tvarias

Most religions have issues with pres marital sex~~baptists don't approve it. And pretty sure Catholics don't either. SMDH~~not just Mormons.

 

[Bernina]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Juan- You wanted that "flavor" Geffner- Well that was part of it #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 31s31 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
U didn't question Chris, Sky & Lisa because they were Mormon right?Geff- Well that wasn't all of it. Part was secondary gains. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 11s11 seconds ago
Jurors excused until Monday at 9:45 a.m. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 21s21 seconds ago
That's all until Monday.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 9s9 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Juan mentions Zenya could have been Mormon and his staff interviewed her #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 17s17 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
In recess until Monday at 9:45am MST #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Zuri]

Thank you Bernina and YoNo for posting the tweets. I was able to catch up so quickly for the last 2 days.

YoNo, the little smilie things you inserted while waiting on tweets had me smiling. Thank you!

Bernina, so glad your twice broken foot is now only broken once at the moment. Heel quickly!

 

[My-Future-Ex-Husband]

Thank you Bernina and YesOrNo.

 

[Spellbound]

Thanks for the tweets, ladies! We should be getting closer to closing arguments. I think we will finish before summer.

 

[zoey]

Thanks for the tweets, ladies! We should be getting closer to closing arguments. I think we will finish before summer.

One would hope

 

[Bernina]

What I have "learned" from Dr. Geff while he was on the stand.........



"I have been in practice for 35 years."


​..........and that just about sums it up for me. Next........

 

[Ruby]

What I have "learned" from Dr. Geff while he was on the stand.........



"I have been in practice for 35 years."


​..........and that just about sums it up for me. Next........

and he still doesn't have it right :gaah: :happydance:

(just joking - I'm sure there was probably that one time ......... at band camp)

 

[Kensie]

B, thanks for the tweets and glad you only have one break in your foot.
Y/N thanks for your tweets too.

I was buried at work today but it looks like Juan made the giggling forgetful doctor look bad.

What is in store for Monday?

 

[I'mjazzed]

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 27s27 seconds ago
Just an observation, gallery always packed when Juan Martinez is up. #JodiArias

That's because We Love Him!!! = )

 

[Spellbound]

What I have "learned" from Dr. Geff while he was on the stand.........



"I have been in practice for 35 years."


​..........and that just about sums it up for me. Next........

I learned from Dr. G:

"our definition of lies are different"


"Just because she lied, doesn't make her a liar"

"a lie is when someone seeks to gain something by telling an untruth"


"there are generic lies"