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Its horrendous isn't it. And to think the doctor really thought she was doing them some good for all those years. The doctor must have been sick in the mind herself.
It was a real life Dr. Jekyl. Very sad.
Hatfield, we had a place like that called "24th and Van Buren", the State Mental Facility.
It was shut down when most of the other ones nationwide did, when Reagan was in office.
Never had a homeless situation down in Phoenix until that happened. There were illegal immigrants that camped in the vast orchards that were once all over there, but those too are pretty much gone.
Hi just catching up on reading. We had a hospital like that in Cleveland. I never
knew the name of it as my mother always referred to it and us as "you kids will
put me in the nut house yet" or , "I'm going to wind up on Turney Road!!" by the
time I was old enough to look into it , closed!!..She never made I to the nut house.
:laughcry:
BBM
Preparing to have tomatoes thrown my way, but I feel very strongly about this subject.
How ironic is it that John Hinckley, Reagan's would-be assassin, has been housed in St. Elizabeth Hospital (the first Federally operated psychiatric hospital in the country), for the past 30+ years? (Although he has recently been deemed to no longer be a threat, and as such, gets frequent passes to stay with his mother in Virginia.)
Reagan's policies and actions put hundreds of thousands of mentally ill people out on the streets to fend for themselves, and left the general public to deal with them as they may.
Bernina, you pinpoint exactly when the problem started, as well as the genesis of the problem. That chapter in our history is an embarrassment and an abomination, the consequences of which we are still grappling with; in fact, more and more each day. He didn't just fail to provide a safety net for the mentally ill, he further stigmatized them by effectively turning them into street bums, members of the lowest rank of society.
What kind of country turns its back on the "least of its brethren," and fallaciously suggests that wealth will "trickle down," to those in need? What trickled down was a further division in the class structure, wherein those on the margins have become ever more marginalized.
I wonder where we'd be now if, like more socially advanced countries, we had embraced a more compassionate and proactive approach to mental illness? I bet the stigma would be far less, and that we'd have a much better system in place through which people could receive intervention and treatment. (I would include substance abusers and alcoholics, as I'm convinced folks in those groups are basically people with greater-or-lesser degrees of mental illness issues; but who, for their own misguided reasons, think self-medicating is the answer.)
JMO
ETA: How much of this random violence we now experience could be avoided if we didn't collectively think of people with mental illness as "crazy?"
BBM
Preparing to have tomatoes thrown my way, but I feel very strongly about this subject.
How ironic is it that John Hinckley, Reagan's would-be assassin, has been housed in St. Elizabeth Hospital (the first Federally operated psychiatric hospital in the country), for the past 30+ years? (Although he has recently been deemed to no longer be a threat, and as such, gets frequent passes to stay with his mother in Virginia.)
Reagan's policies and actions put hundreds of thousands of mentally ill people out on the streets to fend for themselves, and left the general public to deal with them as they may.
Bernina, you pinpoint exactly when the problem started, as well as the genesis of the problem. That chapter in our history is an embarrassment and an abomination, the consequences of which we are still grappling with; in fact, more and more each day. He didn't just fail to provide a safety net for the mentally ill, he further stigmatized them by effectively turning them into street bums, members of the lowest rank of society.
What kind of country turns its back on the "least of its brethren," and fallaciously suggests that wealth will "trickle down," to those in need? What trickled down was a further division in the class structure, wherein those on the margins have become ever more marginalized.
I wonder where we'd be now if, like more socially advanced countries, we had embraced a more compassionate and proactive approach to mental illness? I bet the stigma would be far less, and that we'd have a much better system in place through which people could receive intervention and treatment. (I would include substance abusers and alcoholics, as I'm convinced folks in those groups are basically people with greater-or-lesser degrees of mental illness issues; but who, for their own misguided reasons, think self-medicating is the answer.)
JMO
ETA: How much of this random violence we now experience could be avoided if we didn't collectively think of people with mental illness as "crazy?"
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