SIDEBAR #7- Arias/Alexander forum

[MsJosie]

Are you thinking of Anne Campbell? I believe she's Donovan's mother? It's speculated that she was the one CMja was trying to get the encoded magazines to.



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Thanks, I never knew her name....:seeya:

 

[ElleElle]

yes i just read something , juror 9 was chased for 3 blocks by JVM and her producer stayed on the train w/ him and all he said was no comment, so even though the FP son says the press were "camped out" he could have done the same as juror 9 :twocents:

Here is Juror #9 leaving court...

He does not look happy!

http://www.azcentral.com/video/2405455571001

 

[Angelina Frost]

And the fact that she shot him in the head (not your typical self-defense wound) and disposed of the gun (she couldn't risk it being "back traced" to the May 28th burglary)

The rental car becomes more damning when you factor in the upside down tags and Jodi's cray cray explanation for it. I personally believe she switched her original tags with stolen ones as she traveled through Arizona, and then she stopped just before crossing the Nevada border to switch the tags back, but because it was dark (around 10pm), she accidentally placed them upside down.

Also, the gas can issue is augmented by the lack of any electronic transactions in Arizona for gas (be it debit or credit cards). But for every other state on her road trip, she has many such transactions. Even in Nevada where her stay was the shortest (two gas transactions, one before entering Utah and one after).

I can't believe how on the money you were about male defenders, specifically those suffering from the "white knight syndrome." One of them not only hung the jury, but believed she was emotionally and mentally abused.

Maricopa County needs to hire you as a jury consultant.

 

[ElleElle]

I only reason I could respect is that her extreme BPD+++ allowed her to lie easily and viciously to save herself without any thought given to her victim or his family. That was the only mitigating factor I saw, and I still would have voted death because she knew right from wrong, but didn't care.

I believed the "lack of criminal history" was a mitigating factor. :twocents:

 

[kscornfed]

Dr. Hare is brilliant. Definitley one of the pioneers in his field. I studied a lot of his work during the Casey Anthony trial. I thought, at that time, that KC was a psychopath. After seeing CMja though, I'm thinking KC is more Sociopathic than Psychopathic.

It's hard to make any true comparison given that KC didn't take the stand. It would have been extremely interesting to see her under cross examination. I think she lies better than CMja for sure, but I think she would have had a harder time keeping her rage under wraps. CMja was pretty unflappable. Her contradictory statements were ridiculous. Her responses to cross examination were condescending, smug and insouciant; but she never lost her composure. Would FCA have been as cool under pressure?


Casey Anthony angry wants to kill Jose Baez on June 24th - YouTube

I wish we could've seen JA's meltdown that Thursday court was cancelled. I think she did something epic that day. I hope someone tells what it was someday!

 

[a/k/a me]

iirc TA was trying to help JA by getting uhaul to pay, idk f it was ever resolved b4 6/4, but i have heard from a few TA friends in interviews that TA actually never cashed any of JA's checks - which is why i bet she asked when she was arrested if the were gonna cash the check - thats why imo i don't think what ever TA was so upset about in that email has anything to do w/ money, idk but TA appears that money and possesions weren't that important to him - imo - which makes me think what ever she did to cause that anger was way worse than jodi scamming money

Travis stated "betrayal", what do you suppose would be the ultimate betrayal for Travis. I wish his closest friends could answer that one.

 

[KristiDFW]

BBM

And yet when asked in the ABC interview why this jury could not reach a unanimous decision on sentencing Jodi to death, one juror quickly stated:

Because we followed the law.

Does this mean she is lying to us? Does this mean she is protecting the JF? Could she have ulterior motives by not exposing the JF?

Of course not!

Huh? I didn't say anything about breaking the law in there. Geez.
But there could have been some bullheaded people in there that refused to budge or listen. And that is MOO.

 

[magnolia]

Hatred or threats......no. Absolutely not....I do not think those things should happen. Respect his decison? Nope. Thats the equivalent of respecting the Pinellas 12 decison.

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BBM--Not the same at all. The Pinellas-12 acquitted Casey Anthony.

IMO

 

[DebinGA]

I believed the "lack of criminal history" was a mitigating factor. :twocents:

I didn't, because she had a history of criminal behavior. It just wasn't documented - pot growing, door breaking, wall "holing", "losing" stuff and getting free replacements and then finding the orginals, probably stealing others' tips, stalking Bianca/Lisa/Mimi/Travis and who knows how many others, peeping in windows, etc. She wasn't supporting herself in Mesa by legal means imo.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

:seeya: Hello everyone.

I know this is going to be asking a lot but I had to be away from here for a few days for family. Only thing I got to catch before leaving was the Foreman on Good Morning America. An alternate who came out immediately after the verdict on facebook.

So can someone please please give me a little run down of what has come out since then? Again I know it's asking a lot.

Has the jury including the foreman given anymore interviews paper, facebook, video etc.

Is there any news as to what is going on with Jodi?

What happened with Donovan, why is she no longer around Jodi?

I did try to make a thread for the Juror's interviews or if anything they chose to reveal came out as I knew people would be away on the holiday weekend but I don't see it so I guess it didn't get approved.

Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me on anything going on. :seeya:

Hi Mandy - this should get you started:



http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-jurors-sentenced-death-matter/story?id=19259867


http://www.azcentral.com/community/...5jodi-arias-juror-six-speaks-about-trial.html


http://www.azcentral.com/video/2405626916001



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[Nezumi]

Proud of the foreman's son for writing that post.

In today's society, people speak their opinions very freely and sometimes much too personally. It is not proper for people to direct any kind of hatred or threats towards this man for fulfilling his civic duty. While some may not agree with his decision, it still should be respected.

Do I think that there was some faulty reasoning on his part, given some of the comments he has made? Yes, and I posted earlier about apparent biases on his part.

I'm sorry that some fools out there (not meaning this site) have made this way too personal for this man.

There is no proof that any "threats" we're made. We only have the word of the foreman and his son and, frankly? I don't believe either of them.

 

[ElleElle]

I didn't, because she had a history of criminal behavior. It just wasn't documented - pot growing, door breaking, wall "holing", "losing" stuff and getting free replacements and then finding the orginals, probably stealing others' tips, stalking Bianca/Lisa/Mimi/Travis and who knows how many others, peeping in windows, etc. She wasn't supporting herself in Mesa by legal means imo.

Yes, but a criminal history would mean a criminal record, which Jodi did not have prior to Jun4/08.

WE know she had criminal tendencies, but the jury did not. Even thoguh, imo she committed perjury on the stand, which in itself should count as a crime along with brutal killing.

 

[Karmady]

There is no proof that any "threats" we're made. We only have the word of the foreman and his son and, frankly? I don't believe either of them.

I believe him completely. That kind of thing has been going on in this case for a long time. It's inexcusable and really, really scary, imo.

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

It's hard to make any true comparison given that KC didn't take the stand. It would have been extremely interesting to see her under cross examination. I think she lies better than CMja for sure, but I think she would have had a harder time keeping her rage under wraps. CMja was pretty unflappable. Her contradictory statements were ridiculous. Her responses to cross examination were condescending, smug and insouciant; but she never lost her composure. Would FCA have been as cool under pressure?

No way. Agree CA would have turned into a snarling angry beast and that would have surely been the end of her.

CMja was supremely confident and smug in her belief that no one could get the better of her and she had no fear of JM. She actually sat on the stand the first day in that black jacket kind of leaned back on her chair with an eyebrow raised. Her demeanor and attitude was BRING IT JUAN.

Oh Lord, did he bring it on.

For almost 10 days, he relentlessly pecked away at her her wall of confidence. She couldn't keep him at bay because A) she's incapable of remembering her lies and she failed at thinking ahead and making anticipatory connections.

But mainly B) JM kept her teetering and off guard the entire time so she just could not mentally duck and weave.

Her obviously impromptu lies fell flat every time.

CA was smart enough to realize her little story would never hang together under a fiery cross examination. She wasn't risking prison.

 

[DebinGA]

There is no proof that any "threats" we're made. We only have the word of the foreman and his son and, frankly? I don't believe either of them.

Yep. As far as we know, the only threat came from Mrs. Foreman reading the reaction the next day and screaming, "I'M GONNA KILL YOU!!!"

 

[Sweet Fox]

yes i just read something , juror 9 was chased for 3 blocks by JVM and her producer stayed on the train w/ him and all he said was no comment, so even though the FP son says the press were "camped out" he could have done the same as juror 9 :twocents:

Sure he could just said no comment but clearly the JF like being in front of a microphone. So much so, he made sure he was the first juror to speak.

 

[ElleElle]

I believe him completely. That kind of thing has been going on in this case for a long time. It's inexcusable and really, really scary, imo.

I think so too. There are so many angry people out there.

It's not over yet and Jodi did get M1. :rocker:

 

[Ammonitida]

Tara claims that she asked as many as 75 questions. The impression she gives is that these were all snarky. Yeah, those very questions that made many of us say, "I love this jury!!". The questions that gave us hope. And she became an alternate! Same is true with juror number 6, who asked the famous haircut question. We lost them both! If I had somehow known that before the verdict, I'd have been panicking even more, believing even a full acquittal was very likely. Wow, we got lucky.

 

[kscornfed]

Travis stated "betrayal", what do you suppose would be the ultimate betrayal for Travis. I wish his closest friends could answer that one.

Did she steal that ring way before she killed him? I wonder how he reacted to that? Or if he believed it? I want to know more about that.

 

[MeeBee]

I believe him completely. That kind of thing has been going on in this case for a long time. It's inexcusable and really, really scary, imo.

This whole threat/death threat meme is getting tiresom. The only proof I saw of any actual threats being made to anyone was the kid that arrested for saying he was going to blow up the court house after Jodi was convicted.

How many threats do you think Juan has gotten from Jodi's supporters, I suppose?