Sidebar Discussion #4

[KarmaGet'em]

you know I got to thinking...all that big to do about people leaving the church last night..what if that was just to throw the media off and get everyone thinking she's left the church?

perhaps she's still there?

i only say that because..really..where else will she go? she can't go to a random supporter's house, it'd have to be someone she knows and trusts..and they are a few. she can't go to hopespring because the media will figure that out.

I see what you are saying and get the same feeling SB. :twocents:

 

[SindyBill]

Pretty sure FCA's egg donor would allow her back at hopespring

I'm sure she would too..I just don't think FCA's "handlers" or whatever would allow her to go back to the most obvious place, where the killing took place, and where media's been known to camp out for days.


I'm a poet and didn't know it.

 

[logicalgirl]

Pretty sure FCA's egg donor would allow her back at hopespring

Well George would not and the question is - was the money from Dr. Phil issued as a joint payment to both via the charity or to them directly and can CA get rid of George and keep the money? And how would this affect any hope of raking in cash for their charity foundation?

OCA returning home is much more complicated than it used to be. Don't think its an automatic assumption anymore.

 

[suzihawk]

Pretty sure FCA's egg donor would allow her back at hopespring

People are probably gathering up their pennies as we speak. :crazy:

 

[Aedrys]

From this link
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...ecords-tell-us-did-casey-really-kill-caylee/#

She also did not qualify for any psychiatric diagnosis.
She did not qualify for antisocial (sociopathic) personality disorder.
She did not qualify for narcissistic personality disorder.
She did not qualify for borderline personality disorder.
She didn’t even come close.

He left out JUST PLAN EVIL

I love how he used all of that to uphold what he was saying. Hello, doc! There is such a thing as just being EVIL. Lord. He acted like those results were the holy grail! Don't think so, Ablow, you're just a blowin' in the wind.

 

[sumbunny]

I'm shocked the Pastor wasn't offended by FCA's inmate letters.

The entire " I get my messages through sneezes from god"

 

[logicalgirl]

Dr. Ablow needed - and I mean NEEDED to have a different theory than what the primary players in this drama had. No one would want to hear his ideas if they were simply rehashing what JA or JB or FCA or the Anthonys said. There would be no reason to buy something written by someone not involved in the case unless they could create something unique.

Hence, Ablow constructs a poorly reasoned theory about molestation. Essentially it's like this:

"People who were molested do 'x'. Casey Anthony did 'x', therefore, she was molested."

"People who molest their kids act like 'x'. GA acted this way. Therefore, he's a molestor."

It keeps going on and on - he leaves out many salient points, he leaves many things incomplete and is obviously irresponsible in his forced approach to the unlikely notion that GA was a deeply disturbed incest-loving pedophile.

Dr. Ablow's number one goal is fame and fortune. Being a Dr. is simply a means to that end.

Great post Horace F, :tyou: and IMO the best you've ever contributed. Right on point IMO and so true.

 

[Tulessa]

We have been focused on death so long that I thought I would share some good news.< Bursting with pride!

 

[SindyBill]

People are probably gathering up their pennies as we speak. :crazy:

that's one way to donate to their fund!

 

[sumbunny]

We have been focused on death so long that I thought I would share some good news.< Bursting with pride!

Congratulations!!!! :great:

 

[Aedrys]

I'm shocked the Pastor wasn't offended by FCA's inmate letters.

The entire " I get my messages through sneezes from god"

You know, the phrase below his church's name on his website is interesting. I'm not linking anything, but it seems to indicate he thinks Jesus can overcome any sin or sinner. I think he really might believe he can save Casey. I think stuff like the letters is just proof to him of how much she needs saving. Scary.

 

[logicalgirl]

I'm shocked the Pastor wasn't offended by FCA's inmate letters.

The entire " I get my messages through sneezes from god"

Good press for the guy who used to be a Christian music rock star, and didn't the daily beast mention some benefits for his church?

His interview will be worth a few buck and how much is feeling righteous worth to a pastor?

 

[cyberborg]

You know, I'm willing to bet someone would pay nicely for him to go on air and slam these claims. I'm sure Dr. Phil would love to make another donation to get George back on his show to combat these sexual abuse claims. But all he ever seems to do is talk through Lippman. I don't understand why he doesn't do more to defend himself. As mad as he claims to be at Casey, he's sure not making a big stink of the sexual abuse allegations at all.

Damned if you do, Damned if you don't?

I think GA is in a lose-lose situ with KC's allegations and probably needs to ride out the storm and hope it passes.

While coming out strong to oppose the accusations can convince some of GA's innocence, many are biased to believe the worst of GA anyway, despite everything and it can/will backfire.

From the DT social networking polls GA was seen more as the perp and bad guy while KC was seen as the little girl she was portraying who lies are explained by the abuse. JB's OS was shocking and had a game changing impact.

The accusations have not come directly from KC's mouth but via a backdoor of Psych depositions and jail house letters so it can make GA look bad, even more guilty to challenge these and go against his daughter. Folks will perceive that as him being even more guilty.

I would not be surprised if Ablow is paid by KC supporters to pursue this in order to rehabilitate her image at the cost of GA, support KC's new story when she does an exclusive interview and, gets away with it because it is his expert opinion based on KC's testimony.

Like OJ there will be those who firmly believe KC's accusations are true, there will be those who firmly believe that KC's accusations are lies. Few minds will be changed to cross into either camp but more new recruits can be added.

There will also be many experts and talking heads that will align on both sides based on life experiences and perceptions.

To me, this is a lightning rod for KC to leverage 'abuse' and her story of GA since she will gain support even though folks know that she is a proven liar, that this story evolved, that she is a manipulator, that she is retaliating against GA, that she is deflecting her own 100% guilt.

These accusations will NEVER be PROVEN and will NEVER be DIS-PROVEN -- that's a win-win for KC and a lose-lose for GA. She can stick to her guns. IMO

 

[sumbunny]

I'm only concerned he'd house a person that may bring danger to his family. No amount of attempting to fix FCA should be more important than his families welfare.

IMO

 

[Tulessa]

Congratulations!!!! :great:

Thank you! My grand baby is going to be loved sooo very much!!

 

[SindyBill]

Good press for the guy who used to be a Christian music rock star, and didn't the daily beast mention some benefits for his church?

His interview will be worth a few buck and how much is feeling righteous worth to a pastor?

You know, I thought his name sounded familiar. I think you're right about him being a former Christian music rock star.

And yes, didn't his church and the on-church school recently get a lot of computers and what not? Hm. Wonder if that was aroudn the same time FCA got HER new computer?

 

[logicalgirl]

I came into this case feeling pretty optimistic about people's intentions for being involved in any way - but after three years I'm completely cured of that and prefer to err on the cynical now....:maddening:

 

[logicalgirl]

We have been focused on death so long that I thought I would share some good news.< Bursting with pride!

Such wonderful news for you and your family! Blessings my friend as you welcome your family's new Angel!

 

[suzihawk]

You know, the phrase below his church's name on his website is interesting. I'm not linking anything, but it seems to indicate he thinks Jesus can overcome any sin or sinner. I think he really might believe he can save Casey. I think stuff like the letters is just proof to him of how much she needs saving. Scary.

He needs to be introduced to Mary Hamer. Both delusional.

 

[logicalgirl]

Damned if you do, Damned if you don't?

I think GA is in a lose-lose situ with KC's allegations and probably needs to ride out the storm and hope it passes.

While coming out strong to oppose the accusations can convince some of GA's innocence, many are biased to believe the worst of GA anyway, despite everything and it can/will backfire.

From the DT social networking polls GA was seen more as the perp and bad guy while KC was seen as the little girl she was portraying who lies are explained by the abuse. JB's OS was shocking and had a game changing impact.

The accusations have not come directly from KC's mouth but via a backdoor of Psych depositions and jail house letters so it can make GA look bad, even more guilty to challenge these and go against his daughter. Folks will perceive that as him being even more guilty.

I would not be surprised if Ablow is paid by KC supporters to pursue this in order to rehabilitate her image at the cost of GA, support KC's new story when she does an exclusive interview and, gets away with it because it is his expert opinion based on KC's testimony.

Like OJ there will be those who firmly believe KC's accusations are true, there will be those who firmly believe that KC's accusations are lies. Few minds will be changed to cross into either camp but more new recruits can be added.

There will also be many experts and talking heads that will align on both sides based on life experiences and perceptions.

To me, this is a lightning rod for KC to leverage 'abuse' and her story of GA since she will gain support even though folks know that she is a proven liar, that this story evolved, that she is a manipulator, that she is retaliating against GA, that she is deflecting her own 100% guilt.

These accusations will NEVER be PROVEN and will NEVER be DIS-PROVEN -- that's a win-win for KC and a lose-lose for GA. She can stick to her guns. IMO

Yes, agree Cyberborg - it is tragic. And unfortunately any denial by the Accused is seen as even further "guilt" because that's what this kind of "perp" does, or so "they" say.

In many ways George deserves criticism, but never has he done anything to deserve this lifelong stigma.