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OK, here's a description of JB's timeline for June 16 from http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/06/speed-read-presumed-guilty-casey-anthony-the-inside-story.html:

“‘Where the hell is Caylee? Where the hell is Caylee?’” Casey awoke early on the morning of June 16, 2008, to her father’s frantic voice, Baez writes. “Caylee usually slept in my bed, but on this morning I was alone,” Casey told Baez. They searched the house and the garage, and Casey noticed that the pool ladder was still attached. Then she saw her father carrying Caylee. “I could see Caylee was dripping wet. I could tell she was dead,” she continued, according to Baez. “My father started yelling at me, ‘It’s all your fault. Look what you’ve done. You weren’t watching her. You’re going to go to ****ing jail for child neglect…It’s all your fault.” Baez writes that George told her not to tell anyone what had happened, especially her mother, and that he’d take care of everything. When her father went to work that morning, Casey tried to call her mother at work, but she didn’t pick up. Phone records revealed she tried to call her mother six times in four minutes. But when she didn’t answer, Casey just “went to Tony’s house and acted like it never happened,” Baez writes.

And here's the timeline we know about (I added the photo upload from Fusion at 9:27 am):

12:54 am Casey finishes up an 80-minute phone call with Tony
1:05-1:54 am Casey texting back and forth with Tony
3:08-3:22 am Casey on the phone with Tony

7:54 am Someone calls Casey's phone from the house landline-goes to voicemail
7:56-8:06 am Casey happily IM'ing/flirting with Alex
8:45 am Casey texts Tony
9:27 am Casey uploads Fusion photo

11:47 am-12:06 pm Casey on the phone with Tony
12:55 pm Casey exchanges texts with Tony
1:00-1:14 pm Casey on the phone with Tony
1:26 pm Casey exchanges texts with Jesse
1:44-2:20 pm Casey on the phone with Amy
2:52-3:04 pm Casey on the phone with Jesse

(None of these people report that Casey is distraught.)

3:00 pm or a little earlier - George is at work
3:04 pm - George tries to call both Casey and the house landline

4:10-4:14 pm Casey tries to call Cindy at work and on her cell--at the end, she is on the line with someone at Cindy's office (or on Cindy's work voicemail) for about a minute and a half. Then she leaves for Tony's house. On the way, she calls Tony and Jesse, and tries her mom's cell again.

For some reason, it takes her about an hour and a half to drive the short distance to Tony's apartment.

At 6:30, near Tony's apartment, she tries again to call Cindy, on her cell and at home, three times. Then she checks a voicemail that had arrived sometime before 6 pm (maybe from Cindy??)

At 7:06 pm, she leaves a message or talks to someone briefly at the Anthony house (George was still at work), then calls Amy, then has her "Blockbuster movie night date" with Tony.

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So when does JB say all this happened, again? And why did Casey try again to call Cindy multiple times around 6:30 if she was pretending nothing ever happened?

And why did it take her an hour and a half to drive to Tony's?

JB, are you reading this? Can you help me out here?

Didn't we always figure that the killing took place between the 4:30-6:30pm time frame?
I believe Caylee was drugged and duct taped and died in the trunk.
I know these phone records were given to the jury to review and we now know that they didn't. I wonder why they weren't walked through them during trial. Very damning evidence.
I remain shocked at this most heinous, gruesome, premeditated murder.

Update: Just saw this on my twitter, heinous and gruesome also: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-surprise-visit-authorities-article-1.1113626
 
Maybe NavySubMom is around. She has posted tweets.

ETA: or KarmaGet'Em
 
So...I haven't read this "book," but is it true that JB says that this IM conversation was GEORGE's conversation, not Casey's??? I guess George was using the name "casey o marie" and chatting with Casey's friend Alex??

In the book Jose doesnt actually say that George had that chat..
what he said is that George Had a an aol instant messenger account..
Casey Didnt,

so yeah.. He claims she had no aol IM..
lol..

what im trying to find is the doc dumps where it shows the actually IM and says its from AOL or shows any of the AOL ones.. saying its aol..something offical... as the book lovers dont trust the ones that dont say.. what it is.. or that are retyped..
and Im trying to compile a list of proofs of lies lol
 
BTW all One of the bestest things about Kindle is the search feature.... I can just search for AOL.. or POOL or what ever and it shows me every mention of it.. and I can go to that page, in the book.. its great for when you are trying to research.
 
So are we to assume the "multiple" phone calls that occurred during the afternoon are the calls that Baez is speaking of?
(BTW, Jose...George didn't leave for work in the morning!!)
I'm not getting Jose's story...IT JUST DOES NOT FIT!!!

Not to mention that Jose has been claiming that the AIM search for "foolproof suffocation" that was done at the same time that Casey was talking to Amy at 1:44PM was done by George. If he went to work in the morning, he couldn't do them. Jose cannot keep his stories straight.
He's not as good a liar as Casey.
 
Not to mention that Jose has been claiming that the AIM search for "foolproof suffocation" that was done at the same time that Casey was talking to Amy at 1:44PM was done by George. If he went to work in the morning, he couldn't do them. Jose cannot keep his stories straight.
He's not as good a liar as Casey.
Karma...can you tweet Hal with AZ's info....

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Also, see post #356

Thanks!
 
Don't shoot the messenger :truce:

When does Casey Anthony’s probation end?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/07/when-does-casey-anthonys-probation-end.html
A spokeswoman for the Florida Department of Corrections said Friday afternoon: “All our department is going to say is Casey Anthony will be done with probation by September. That’s all I’m going to say. That’s for security purposes.”

Attorney Richard Hornsby, who offered Anthony analysis for WESH-Channel 2, had a more precise answer.

“She was technically released from jail early July 17th, and her first official day of probation would have been July 18th, 2011,” Hornsby said. “As a result, her probation will legally end on July 17th, 2012.”
 
In the book Jose doesnt actually say that George had that chat..
what he said is that George Had a an aol instant messenger account..
Casey Didnt,

so yeah.. He claims she had no aol IM..
lol..

what im trying to find is the doc dumps where it shows the actually IM and says its from AOL or shows any of the AOL ones.. saying its aol..something offical... as the book lovers dont trust the ones that dont say.. what it is.. or that are retyped..
and Im trying to compile a list of proofs of lies lol
HTH

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608instantmessages/indexGallery.htm
 
In the book Jose doesnt actually say that George had that chat..
what he said is that George Had a an aol instant messenger account..
Casey Didnt,

so yeah.. He claims she had no aol IM..
lol..

what im trying to find is the doc dumps where it shows the actually IM and says its from AOL or shows any of the AOL ones.. saying its aol..something offical... as the book lovers dont trust the ones that dont say.. what it is.. or that are retyped..
and Im trying to compile a list of proofs of lies lol

Here's the computer forensics report:
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_computer_report.pdf

This document doesn't contain the contents of the AIM messages, but it does show (p. 13) where LE got them: from the path Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\AIMLogger\caseyomarie\IM
Logs.
 
In the book Jose doesnt actually say that George had that chat..
what he said is that George Had a an aol instant messenger account..
Casey Didnt,

so yeah.. He claims she had no aol IM..
lol..

what im trying to find is the doc dumps where it shows the actually IM and says its from AOL or shows any of the AOL ones.. saying its aol..something offical... as the book lovers dont trust the ones that dont say.. what it is.. or that are retyped..
and Im trying to compile a list of proofs of lies lol

If you want proof that Casey had AIM, you can reference Iassen Donov's testimony that he made under oath in the trial. He talked about chatting with Casey over AOL Instant Messenger. He said it many times. Jose was there and heard it.
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(the video of this testimony is at: http://www.onenewspage.us/video/20110527/435686/Iassen-Donov-takes-the-stand.htm)
 
If you want proof that Casey had AIM, you can reference Iassen Donov's testimony that he made under oath in the trial. He talked about chatting with Casey over AOL Instant Messenger. He said it many times. Jose was there and heard it.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8138496&postcount=70

(the video of this testimony is at: http://www.onenewspage.us/video/20110527/435686/Iassen-Donov-takes-the-stand.htm)
Here's a report of it as well....

http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/instant-messages-casey-morning-caylee-drowning/nCyLz/

Still looking for doc.
 
Well that was interesting. Did JB really teach a class at Harvard???? I thought CA went to Universal to track down FCA so she could see baby Caylee, I don't remember her going there because Juliette Lewis was going to speak at a fund raiser??? I'm seriously thinking of buying this book, or at least going to B&N and reading it. It seems like every time JB speaks there are new lies. I guess I just want to read the lies and compare them to the truth. I don't know, how much is this book? Maybe I should just spend the money on fabric LOL

I just had a thought, I wonder if JB quit being FCA's attorney because he was tried of her acting like a two year old and not because he was tired of the media calling him while he "was teaching at Harvard"

bbm
I believe he was asked to be a GUEST SPEAKER at an event 1 evening at Harvard...and not that he was a professor/teacher at Harvard as he makes it sound
 
https://theview.abc.go.com/forum/jose-baez-4?page=10
posted 13/07/2012 11:12 am
a person on "jb" message board makes a good point. An abuser would never suggest that his victim speak to LE alone.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1106/03/ng.01.html
More Jailhouse Tapes Played for Casey Anthony Jury
Aired June 3, 2011 - 20:00:00
George Anthony tries to convince her to talk to an FBI agent, Scott Boland. He doesn`t even tell her that he`s an FBI agent. But he just says, this is somebody that has been great to us, you know, maybe you could talk to him, maybe there is more you could tell him.

VIDEO - GA visiting fca at jail 2008
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at 6:25 GA asks her to talk to Scott (to try to get out more information to find Caylee) - and adds if she wants JB there that's fine - she changes subject to herself & how it would be easier if she (fca) was home -
 
Did Jose happen to mention exactly what time of day this drowning/George presenting dead Caylee to Casey incident occured? As in, where does it fit in this timeline of June 16? Casey was supposed to have been in a deep sleep before George came in, right?

12:54 am Casey finishes up an 80-minute phone call with Tony
1:05-1:54 am Casey texting back and forth with Tony
3:08-3:22 am Casey on the phone with Tony
7:54 am Someone calls Casey's phone from the house landline-goes to voicemail
7:56-8:06 am Casey happily IM'ing/flirting with Alex (sorry JB, not buying that this was George--see transcript a couple of posts up), so I assume the "incident" was after this.

8:45 am Casey texts Tony
<No time for a deep sleep here, IMO>

11:47 am-12:06 pm Casey on the phone with Tony
12:55 pm Casey exchanges texts with Tony
1:00-1:14 pm Casey on the phone with Tony
1:26 pm Casey exchanges texts with Jesse
1:44-2:20 pm Casey on the phone with Amy
2:52-3:04 pm Casey on the phone with Jesse

George was at work by 3:00 pm, and tried to call Casey from his cell phone at 3:04 pm, so I guess the "incident" must have happened before that.

That is exactly what the the prosecution needed to go over with a big chart in closing arguments. They never did, and I knew the case could be in trouble.
 
That is exactly what the defense needed to go over with a big chart in closing arguments. They never did, and I knew the case could be in trouble.

I think you mean the prosecution, and I agree. :(
 
I wonder why the text messages from June 16th were never released. Or were they?
 
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