Size 12-14 Bloomies "modelled"

[Userid]

One thing that's always puzzled me about this is the fact that there is clearly a rip in the underwear. If they were put on, after the attack, why is there a rip?

 

[ZoriahNZ]

That hole appears to be a cut out section that the police have taken to test for DNA. There was a similar hole in the long johns with an accompanying red tie/tag and a felt pen 'A' and arrow pointing to the cut out spot.

 

[Userid]

^ Aha, thanks Zoriah, makes sense.

 

[SS 396 SS]

Theres somethin more to these oversized panties than meets the eye. In the Ramsey's mind they must have been pretty significant. There the only piece of evidence sought after by police that went missing only to turn up later. At least that I know of.
I have wondered before if these panties are what got this whole thing goin. Could have Jonbenet been openin presents that didn't belong to her and that was the beginning of all this?

 

[SS 396 SS]

Theres somethin more to these oversized panties than meets the eye. In the Ramsey's mind they must have been pretty significant. There the only piece of evidence sought after by police that went missing only to turn up later. At least that I know of.
I have wondered before if these panties are what got this whole thing goin. Could have Jonbenet been openin presents that didn't belong to her and that was the beginning of all this?

 

[BBB167893]

Theres somethin more to these oversized panties than meets the eye. In the Ramsey's mind they must have been pretty significant. There the only piece of evidence sought after by police that went missing only to turn up later. At least that I know of.
I have wondered before if these panties are what got this whole thing goin. Could have Jonbenet been openin presents that didn't belong to her and that was the beginning of all this?

You've got my attention. Please continue.

 

[TeaTime]

Theres somethin more to these oversized panties than meets the eye. In the Ramsey's mind they must have been pretty significant. There the only piece of evidence sought after by police that went missing only to turn up later. At least that I know of.
I have wondered before if these panties are what got this whole thing goin. Could have Jonbenet been openin presents that didn't belong to her and that was the beginning of all this?

Yes, it is odd that a swarm of investigators converged on that house for 10 days and didn't find the package of size 12 panties. Did anyone know to look for this package of panties? I find it hard to believe that the Rs walked out of the house with 6 pair of size 12 girl's underpants stashed on their person somewhere unless they taped it all to their bodies or stashed in PR's boots or fur coat.

 

[otg]

That hole appears to be a cut out section that the police have taken to test for DNA. There was a similar hole in the long johns with an accompanying red tie/tag and a felt pen 'A' and arrow pointing to the cut out spot.

Screengrabs from the Reelz video posted recently by Cynic...

This one shows the Bloomies with the cutout section lying to the side of them:

This one shows them with the cutout section lying on the Bloomies as if to show where it came from:

Notice there are two small sections missing from the cutout section. My guess is that this is where the two blood spots were cut away for DNA testing. There are also two small spots in the upper portion of the cutout section that look (to me) to be blood spots that are diffused into the fabric, possibly from the urine. As everyone probably remembers, reports said there were two blood spots removed for testing. Were there more than just those two spots? Did I just assume (incorrectly) that this meant there were only two blood spots? Input anyone?

 

[otg]

oops I meant reply to 'qtc' not 'otg' sorry!

I did the same thing.:giggle: When I first saw that post, I thought, "What's that dog face doing by my username?"

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Heee! OTG you beat me to it. I submitted a new post complete with a link to nearly 60 screengrabs of Cynic's video (for those who can't watch the vid) and a rather lengthy discussion of said images - including the new bloomies shots. Sadly it appears to still be pending approval by the mods. Anyone know how long it normally takes?

Anyways, I found it interesting that two samples had been taken but there were still 2 small spots in the upper region plus half a larger stain still possibly available for further testing. Also, they weren't just tiny specks of blood but very visible bloodstains.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Are y'all talking adult size bloomies on a baby jbr.

Or is it size 12 kids size?

Btw. I know this is evidence but dang.

We rarely cover panny pics of other possible assault victims.

But anyways.

May Jbr get justice soon.

 

[andreww]

Are y'all talking adult size bloomies on a baby jbr.

Or is it size 12 kids size?

Btw. I know this is evidence but dang.

We rarely cover panny pics of other possible assault victims.

But anyways.

May Jbr get justice soon.

These are kids size 12s, not adult. Still massively oversized for a petite 6 year old.

 

[Miz Adventure]

Yes, it is odd that a swarm of investigators converged on that house for 10 days and didn't find the package of size 12 panties. Did anyone know to look for this package of panties? I find it hard to believe that the Rs walked out of the house with 6 pair of size 12 girl's underpants stashed on their person somewhere unless they taped it all to their bodies or stashed in PR's boots or fur coat.

Good question and I don't remember it being answered.

Does anyone here know what happened to the opened package of Bloomies?

PR had intended to send them to Atlanta in a package of other Christmas presents for her family, these pants being for her niece, who was a lot bigger than JBR.

The package obviously got opened - but why? And by whom?

I'm thinking BR saw all those unopened packages in the basement and started ripping the paper off them, maybe with some help from JBR.

But that still doesn't explain why JBR was found wearing them.

 

[MsJosie]

Just saying......we do not exchange underwear in our family as gifts. We buy them for ourselves. I just always thought it was stange Patsy bought them for a niece....what kind of a present is that for a girl? Not fun and as a preteen it could be pretty embarrassing to open in front on males!

 

[Miz Adventure]

Just saying......we do not exchange underwear in our family as gifts. We buy them for ourselves. I just always thought it was stange Patsy bought them for a niece....what kind of a present is that for a girl? Not fun and as a preteen it could be pretty embarrassing to open in front on males!

I know what you're saying but these pants were a bit special - they were from Bloomingdale's and were known as 'Bloomies' - printed with rosebuds - they were all different with the days of the week embroidered on the waistband.

Maybe there's something wrong with me but I think I would have loved to have received them as a gift when I was about 12 years old.

 

[andreww]

Yes, it is odd that a swarm of investigators converged on that house for 10 days and didn't find the package of size 12 panties. Did anyone know to look for this package of panties? I find it hard to believe that the Rs walked out of the house with 6 pair of size 12 girl's underpants stashed on their person somewhere unless they taped it all to their bodies or stashed in PR's boots or fur coat.

May be as simple as LE not looking for them while they had possession of the house. But they obviously weren't where Patsy said they should be.


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[TeaTime]

May be as simple as LE not looking for them while they had possession of the house. But they obviously weren't where Patsy said they should be.


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That is what I think, they were overlooked during the search.

The R legal team held onto these panties for a while, knowing LE was interested in them. Perhaps they should all be tested to see if the same DNA shows up on all or some of the fresh, new ones.

 

[UKGuy]

Good question and I don't remember it being answered.

Does anyone here know what happened to the opened package of Bloomies?

PR had intended to send them to Atlanta in a package of other Christmas presents for her family, these pants being for her niece, who was a lot bigger than JBR.

The package obviously got opened - but why? And by whom?

I'm thinking BR saw all those unopened packages in the basement and started ripping the paper off them, maybe with some help from JBR.

But that still doesn't explain why JBR was found wearing them.

Miz Adventure,
The size-12's are a replacement for her size-6 underwear. The size-12's are simply part of the staging.

One of the R's patently redressed JonBenet in the size-12's.

Same with those long johns, get this one: on Dr Phil when discussing the upcoming vacation JR said the kids were just going to go in the car to the airport in their pajamas, can you see Patsy wanting everyone to see JonBenet wearing an old pair of BR's long johns in public, never mind those size-12's?

I reckon it was BR who redressed JonBenet in the size-12's?

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[Ambitioned]

Just saying......we do not exchange underwear in our family as gifts. We buy them for ourselves. I just always thought it was stange Patsy bought them for a niece....what kind of a present is that for a girl? Not fun and as a preteen it could be pretty embarrassing to open in front on males!

Thank you for saying this. All my life I have never gotten undies as a gift! If PR had said they were Daphne's or even Burke's that would be much more believable!!

 

[andreww]

That is what I think, they were overlooked during the search.

The R legal team held onto these panties for a while, knowing LE was interested in them. Perhaps they should all be tested to see if the same DNA shows up on all or some of the fresh, new ones.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think they were lying out in the open. They certainly weren't in JBs drawer. Maybe buried in Patsy's? Who knows?