Skinner - Verified Friend of Mark Sievers - Q & A thread

  • #161
Great post Creeping! It's fascinating to watch the pieces of the puzzle falling together that make sense to me regarding MS & TS relationship and what i suspect happened. TS's IQ was obviously very high to be able to become a Dr, however it appears she may have had little common sense in picking a man. She obviously wanted children and had them soon after a short courtship. The smooth talker, always an excuse for everything, never follows through, etc. can take years to surface. I'd be willing to bet she couldn't stand him. An earlier patient mentioned MS getting irritated at her at check out. I bet TS was humiliated. She started figuring out what a loser she was stuck with. Many women marry when they are insecure and leave when they get their confidence. I bet she was not only snooping around her business but was also withholding physical affection. He must have really hated her. All just my opinion.
 
  • #162
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You can see from both those photos, that Mark is taller than JR.

People seemed to doubt what I said in a different thread about Mark being taller than Wayne. See the height of Wayne in his mug shot is 5'7".

Here, JR is just shy of 6' tall. In the photo of the two of them by the tree, you can see that Mark is taller than JR.
 
  • #163
You can see from both those photos, that Mark is taller than JR.

People seemed to doubt what I said in a different thread.

Here, JR is just shy of 6' tall. In the photo of the two of them, you can see that Mark is taller than JR.

Hi Skinner, and welcome back :). I thought the question about height differences were between MS and CWW and not MS and JR.
 
  • #164
You can see from both those photos, that Mark is taller than JR.

People seemed to doubt what I said in a different thread.

Here, JR is just shy of 6' tall. In the photo of the two of them, you can see that Mark is taller than JR.


I think the greatest amount of doubt came with your statement that MS and CWW had a 5 to 6 inch height difference.......
 
  • #165
I think the greatest amount of doubt came with your statement that MS and CWW had a 5 to 6 inch height difference.......

It is a 5" height difference.

Wayne is 5'7" and Mark is at least 6' maybe 6'1"
 
  • #166
I thought it very silly that you were evaluating their heights (in that other thread) and not able to see the grounding they were standing on. In light of what I had told you guys, you did not even consider that Wayne might be standing on the cement platform under the pavilion, and the ground off the step of that cement, or a hill.

You were unable to see their feet.
 
  • #167
Great post Creeping! It's fascinating to watch the pieces of the puzzle falling together that make sense to me regarding MS & TS relationship and what i suspect happened. TS's IQ was obviously very high to be able to become a Dr, however it appears she may have had little common sense in picking a man. She obviously wanted children and had them soon after a short courtship. The smooth talker, always an excuse for everything, never follows through, etc. can take years to surface. I'd be willing to bet she couldn't stand him. An earlier patient mentioned MS getting irritated at her at check out. I bet TS was humiliated. She started figuring out what a loser she was stuck with. Many women marry when they are insecure and leave when they get their confidence. I bet she was not only snooping around her business but was also withholding physical affection. He must have really hated her. All just my opinion.

Just a comment on one point you believe:

Being a doctor does not require a high IQ. It's just a lot of work and long hours, as a surgeon told my brother once.
 
  • #168
Just a comment on one point you believe:

Being a doctor does not require a high IQ. It's just a lot of work and long hours for many, as a surgeon told my brother once.

Wow, you really have been talking to MS, huh? Let's remember that TS was a doctor with board certification in internal medicine as well as anti-aging medicine. Further she had a supplemental Masters in Science degree. That is more than "a lot of work." MS was NOT responsible for any of that. Keep that in mind when you want to passive aggressively suggest that the doctor we are talking about in this forum was where she was from "a lot of work."
 
  • #169
Just a comment on one point you believe:

Being a doctor does not require a high IQ. It's just a lot of work and long hours, as a surgeon told my brother once.


Skinner,
Gotta say out of all the speculation and points made in this thread I am a little shocked that challenging Pesky's assumption that TS had a high IQ a rather odd one to chose to address. What would it matter if her IQ was high or not? What does that matter? Sorry, but she is deceased. She was murdered. And out of everything in this thread where you could help enlighten us, you want to point out that she didn't necessarily have a high IQ?

I'm going to take a step back and look at the bright side of your post - at least we know someone in that family was a hard worker.
 
  • #170
Hi Skinner welcome back. I firmly believe you and stand buy your posts
 
  • #171
Skinner,
Gotta say out of all the speculation and points made in this thread I am a little shocked that challenging Pesky's assumption that TS had a high IQ a rather odd one to chose to address. What would it matter if her IQ was high or not? What does that matter? Sorry, but she is deceased. She was murdered. And out of everything in this thread where you could help enlighten us, you want to point out that she didn't necessarily have a high IQ?

I'm going to take a step back and look at the bright side of your post - at least we know someone in that family was a hard worker.


Beach, you say "what does it matter?" Well it obviously matters to you, right?

And if you go back and reread what I stated, to the point that Pesky wrote, you will see that there was an assumption that "to become a doctor you must have a high IQ", which is what I was addressing. Not TS.

You really have to be better at scrutinizing things.
 
  • #172
Skinner- As to other great points by Beach- any other areas you can enlighten this group?


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  • #173
Skinner- As to other great points by Beach- any other areas you can enlighten this group?


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Skinner,

As observation asked, I would also like to hear anything you can share from your point of view.
 
  • #174
Beach, you say "what does it matter?" Well it obviously matters to you, right?

And if you go back and reread what I stated, to the point that Pesky wrote, you will see that there was an assumption that "to become a doctor you must have a high IQ", which is what I was addressing. Not TS.

You really have to be better at scrutinizing things.

You're 100% correct, it does matter to me. The ONLY doctor referenced in this thread IS Teresa.

Thanks for the advice, but I'll pass. I sure don't need any direction from you about scrutinizing things. I know passive-agressive when I see it. :)
 
  • #175
Skinner, I have been waiting for you to return to post. I'd really like to know how MS and girls are holding up. Are you in touch?
 
  • #176
Skinner, do you know when Wayne Wright will be moved to FLA? With you being from St. Louis did you see him or speak to him since his arrest? Thanks In Advance.
 
  • #177
Just a comment on one point you believe:

Being a doctor does not require a high IQ. It's just a lot of work and long hours, as a surgeon told my brother once.

Skinner, I say this with softness but that is the most peculiar post I've ever seen on this site. I hate to be blunt, but I don't believe the surgeon who told your brother its just a lot of work and long hours. He is not a reliable source because everyone knows that being a surgeon requires steady hands, too. Clearly, you brother didn't get an exhaustive list of prerequisites.

Of all the points in PeskySlueth's comment, you chose to zero in on "TS's IQ was obviously very high to be able to become a Dr" to counter with 'its just a lot of work and long hours'. I don't think PeskySlueth was referring to an actual IQ number, because who really cares or even KNOWS what their IQ is unless you're a child prodigy. IQ is a common way of describing someone's intellectual capacity. You know this. I've certainly never been asked my IQ on a job interview. Peskyslueth was saying that obviously, TS was a very smart, very dedicated doctor. There is no discussion, no doubt about TS's intellectual ability and you're disputing this in a weird...almost passive aggressive way.

I think you're attempting to defend your friend, upset with the notion that TS was 'too smart' for MS and that kind of discussion here. However, defending MS's intellectual capacity would have been a more effective route (like when you chimed in confirming CWW's false bio) but instead here, you're saying TS didn't need to be smart to be a doctor and I know this because a doctor told my brother. Genuinely curious, what is your point? What are you telling us?
 
  • #178
You're 100% correct, it does matter to me. The ONLY doctor referenced in this thread IS Teresa.

Thanks for the advice, but I'll pass. I sure don't need any direction from you about scrutinizing things. I know passive-agressive when I see it. :)

HI Beach. please know that I admire, respect and appreciate you greatly! I just want to say that I perceived Skinner's comment differently than you. IQ isn't earned, yet Teresa's accomplishments, including becoming a Dr, were EARNED, partly as a result of countless hours of hard work. I think it is a compliment to Dr. Sievers. Jmo.

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  • #179
You can see from both those photos, that Mark is taller than JR.

People seemed to doubt what I said in a different thread about Mark being taller than Wayne. See the height of Wayne in his mug shot is 5'7".

Here, JR is just shy of 6' tall. In the photo of the two of them by the tree, you can see that Mark is taller than JR.

So, indirectly I guess you are in agreement that these photos do indeed show MS, CWW and JR. Thanks for the confirmation.


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  • #180
So, indirectly I guess you are in agreement that these photos do indeed show MS, CWW and JR. Thanks for the confirmation.


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Well thats settled then! Perhaps we should change the thread title to "pictures and verified insider prove that JR lied and knew MS before murder."
 

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